iPhone 16 and 16 Pro: Preliminary Weights and Dimensions

[klasma]

I’m skeptical of aspects of this, too. Not that the design of the iPhone 13 mini was decided early, but that it was “too late” for Apple to pull the plug on it. Apple could have axed the 13 mini at any point before the first production unit was produced (and, truthfully, even after).

They could have axed the 13 mini, but they couldn’t have replaced it with a 13 Plus in time, and maybe they would have taken a loss due to two-year supplier contracts they were bound to. It probably still made sense economically to go forward with the 13 mini compared to only having one non-Pro 13. I don’t think that Apple lost any money by making the 13 mini, it’s just that the Plus is making them more money.

 

[Hkfan45]

What good is a larger screen when iOS is so limiting with allowing windowing like android does? iOS is an ancient kids OS that has little use for true pro users.

 

[JMO1]

Is anyone really asking for a larger not-max iPhone?

No, I do not need a taller phone

 

[Shirasaki]

One thing is clear: the next iPhone will not be compatible with existing cases and other size-dependent accessories.

Apple makes a big stink about reaching for carbon neutrality but seems to completely ignore the impact of constantly requiring the ecosystem to be re-purchased in order to maintain compatibility. Even having cases be usable across just two generations would make a significant environmental impact.

It reads like a weak scam to build a false sense of a vibrant third party market.

These deliberate meaningless design tweaks completely negates any “carbon neutral” initiatives Apple claims and/or commit to do. Typical corporation green wash, nothing new.

 

[Surf Monkey]

So you are saying it’s locked down to the gram. We’ll check in next year to see who was right. It could be you.

No, I’m not saying that. Don’t put words in my mouth.

 

[jimothyGator]

No, I’m not saying that. Don’t put words in my mouth.

Okay let’s recap then.

MacRumors: here’s the rumored dimensions and weights to the gram for the next iPhone.

Me: I’m skeptical they could possibly know the weight down to the gram.

You: Apple plans these things out years in advanced and the iPhone 16 is mostly locked down.

Me: I’m still skeptical they could know the weight down to the gram.

You: I never said to the gram.

Me: you didn’t, but the article I’m expressing doubt did. I’m skeptical about these numbers.

You: I’m not skeptical. These things need to be locked down in advanced.

Etc. Let me state this clearly: I am skeptical the weight has been locked down to the gram. That’s what this article is about, and that’s what I’m casting doubt on.

So if you’re saying, contra moi, that you’re not skeptical then you are saying you do think they’ve locked it down to the gram. That’s not putting words in your mouth, that’s interpreting your own words.

Now if you don’t think they’ve locked it down to the gram, then you share my skepticism and we agree with each other, making this argument even sillier.

 

[rbramseyjr]

Smaller please, not bigger!

-- said no one on tinder

 

[Surf Monkey]

Okay let’s recap then.

MacRumors: here’s the rumored dimensions and weights to the gram for the next iPhone.

Me: I’m skeptical they could possibly know the weight down to the gram.

You: Apple plans these things out years in advanced and the iPhone 16 is mostly locked down.

Me: I’m still skeptical they could know the weight down to the gram.

You: I never said to the gram.

Me: you didn’t, but the article I’m expressing doubt did. I’m skeptical about these numbers.

You: I’m not skeptical. These things need to be locked down in advanced.

Etc. Let me state this clearly: I am skeptical the weight has been locked down to the gram. That’s what this article is about, and that’s what I’m casting doubt on.

So if you’re saying, contra moi, that you’re not skeptical then you are saying you do think they’ve locked it down to the gram. That’s not putting words in your mouth, that’s interpreting your own words.

Now if you don’t think they’ve locked it down to the gram, then you share my skepticism and we agree with each other, making this argument even sillier.

I have no idea why this is so important to you.

I said LARGELY locked down. If you really think these things go from design to testing to production to shipping inside a 12 month period, well, you’re just dead wrong. Apple has, no doubt, several generations in the pipeline, the next one on deck being the most finished when the current one launches.

So go ahead and obsess about what appears to be a detail completely unrelated to my point. “Oh noz! It might be a gram or two heavier or lighter!! Therefore the whole phone is still in active development!!”

 

[skiguy45]

-- said no one on tinder

Aka bots

 

[black_knight]

Can’t wait for the 16 Pro! 6.3” is unicorn size.

 

[UltimaKilo]

I have no idea why this is so important to you.

I said LARGELY locked down. If you really think these things go from design to testing to production to shipping inside a 12 month period, well, you’re just dead wrong. Apple has, no doubt, several generations in the pipeline, the next one on deck being the most finished when the current one launches.

So go ahead and obsess about what appears to be a detail completely unrelated to my point. “Oh noz! It might be a gram or two heavier or lighter!! Therefore the whole phone is still in active development!!”

You got called out pretty good, not sure why you're still arguing. Just looking for confrontation? Apologize and move on!

 

[Hans20342]

For whom would these changes even matter?
- Longer (but only minimally wider) screen ⟾ not really a plus, screen-wise.
- 10x (?) optical zoom ⟾ will use perhaps twice a year.
- New "capture button" ⟾ the position on the lower end of the right side is super hard to reach quickly (and without risking dropping the phone). Perhaps if this new button became the Power button and the current Power button became the new Capture button.

 

[Surf Monkey]

You got called out pretty good, not sure why you're still arguing. Just looking for confrontation? Apologize and move on!

Apologize for what? This supposed call out is complete BS. Your posturing doesn’t make you right. Sorry.

 

[Surf Monkey]

For whom would these changes even matter?
- Longer (but only minimally wider) screen ⟾ not really a plus, screen-wise.
- 10x (?) optical zoom ⟾ will use perhaps twice a year.
- New "capture button" ⟾ the position on the lower end of the right side is super hard to reach quickly (and without risking dropping the phone). Perhaps if this new button became the Power button and the current Power button became the new Capture button.

It will matter to everyone who has an accessory that won’t work anymore with the new size.

 

[spinedoc77]

I agree with this. But then you have the whiners complaining that "nothing changed! it's exactly like last year's model!". Apple just can't win.

Screen protectors are a sham these days, yet so many continue to think they are "needed". They are not.

Maybe it's time for Apple to build a "case-less" phone. Actually build protective, grippable material onto the phone itself so that a case is not needed at all. I can tell you... spending $60 for a piece of plastic and rubber is crazy, but everybody does it because it's "needed". I want to see Apple eliminate that need.

I still get a ton of little micro scratches/whorls on my phone screen when using them with no screen protector. I'm not a screen protector kind of guy and could care less (other than resale value), but I definitely use them on my kids phones because they have saved the screens when dropped.

I'm 1000% for a nice grippable material on the back, just make it that plastic with the matte rubberized coating that we used to have on a lot of phones.

 

[Davidnguyen_89]

why not apple just wait 2-3 years example 2026-2027 before dishing out newer phones. its gonna get bigger size but small updates included in the 16 series.. example a17 chip in the base models. etc. add something innovative, but clearly that isn't in tim cooks vocabulary

 

[Wahlstrm]

Just put the Phone app in the iPad all ready..

 

[jimothyGator]

why not apple just wait 2-3 years example 2026-2027 before dishing out newer phones. its gonna get bigger size but small updates included in the 16 series.. example a17 chip in the base models. etc. add something innovative, but clearly that isn't in tim cooks vocabulary

You're not suggesting Apple only update iPhones every 2-3 years, are you?

If you are, there are two simple answers: That would kill them when their competitors are updating every two years. And, while it might make sense for individual customers to go 2-3 years (or longer) before upgrading their last iPhone, they didn't all purchase their phone the same year. So every year, there are millions of potential customers who last bought a new two, three, four, etc. years ago.

The smartphone market has matured. Radical innovations are harder to come by, and not necessarily what consumers even want: many innovations turn out to be gimmicks, and customers don't want to learn something entirely new with each new phone or OS upgrade.

Customers do appreciate incremental improves (to camera, processor speed, cell and WiFI networking, battery life and charging speed, etc.), especially as they compound over time. Are those changes "innovative"? The chemistry and engineering behind these incremental improvements often involves innovation, but the end product looks like an incremental improvement.

 

[Surf Monkey]

You're not suggesting Apple only update iPhones every 2-3 years, are you?

If you are, there are two simple answers: That would kill them when their competitors are updating every two years. And, while it might make sense for individual customers to go 2-3 years (or longer) before upgrading their last iPhone, they didn't all purchase their phone the same year. So every year, there are millions of potential customers who last bought a new two, three, four, etc. years ago.

The smartphone market has matured. Radical innovations are harder to come by, and not necessarily what consumers even want: many innovations turn out to be gimmicks, and customers don't want to learn something entirely new with each new phone or OS upgrade.

Customers do appreciate incremental improves (to camera, processor speed, cell and WiFI networking, battery life and charging speed, etc.), especially as they compound over time. Are those changes "innovative"? The chemistry and engineering behind these incremental improvements often involves innovation, but the end product looks like an incremental improvement.

Apple used to effectively update the phone only once every two years with an “S” year inbetween.

The reality is that the upgrade cycle is synthetic. It isn’t organic. Your current iPhone could be sufficient for years, especially if you could swap batteries easily.

But we all know the reason for the constant and endless upgrade cycle: boardrooms that demand ever increasing year over year profits.

 

[Davidnguyen_89]

You're not suggesting Apple only update iPhones every 2-3 years, are you?

If you are, there are two simple answers: That would kill them when their competitors are updating every two years. And, while it might make sense for individual customers to go 2-3 years (or longer) before upgrading their last iPhone, they didn't all purchase their phone the same year. So every year, there are millions of potential customers who last bought a new two, three, four, etc. years ago.

The smartphone market has matured. Radical innovations are harder to come by, and not necessarily what consumers even want: many innovations turn out to be gimmicks, and customers don't want to learn something entirely new with each new phone or OS upgrade.

Customers do appreciate incremental improves (to camera, processor speed, cell and WiFI networking, battery life and charging speed, etc.), especially as they compound over time. Are those changes "innovative"? The chemistry and engineering behind these incremental improvements often involves innovation, but the end product looks like an incremental improvement.

well apple can wait it wouldnt hurt for them to update every 2 years.. when was the last time an ipad mini or ipad air got updated? follow excat same thing.

 

[jimothyGator]

well apple can wait it wouldnt hurt for them to update every 2 years.. when was the last time an ipad mini or ipad air got updated? follow excat same thing.

But why would they do that? So they can make less money?

 

[Surf Monkey]

But why would they do that? So they can make less money?

That’s the bottom line. They want your money. The reporting suggests that more than half of their iPhone customers use iUP and replace their phones every year. I’m guilty of it. But a two year cycle would be a lot more realistic in terms of actual feature advancement.

 

[jimothyGator]

That’s the bottom line. They want your money. The reporting suggests that more than half of their iPhone customers use iUP and replace their phones every year. I’m guilty of it. But a two year cycle would be a lot more realistic in terms of actual feature advancement.

Something tells me you won’t make the shortlist to replace Tim Cook when he retires.

 

[Surf Monkey]

Something tells me you won’t make the shortlist to replace Tim Cook when he retires.

Cook is a fine operations person. He’s done a suitable job of continuing the legacy he was handed. Cook is not an innovator. He’s not a dreamer.

And more importantly, I’m not in line for his job, I don’t want his job and nothing I wrote would suggest any connection between my post and your comment.

 

[Davidnguyen_89]

Cook is a fine operations person. He’s done a suitable job of continuing the legacy he was handed. Cook is not an innovator. He’s not a dreamer.

And more importantly, I’m not in line for his job, I don’t want his job and nothing I wrote would suggest any connection between my post and your comment.

truth, he has no fresh ideas. steve jobs was a different person. he had alot of ideas and would think about it first before finalizing with his team of designers and operations