I hope they won’t. I despise buttons that don’t move when pressed.
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iPhone 16 and 16 Pro: Preliminary Weights and Dimensions
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I could consider that too. A 6.3 inch iPhone instead of a 15 Pro and iPad Pro. With that being said, I might Miss procreate and Apple Pencil 2.
If my displaywar calculations are right, it could be a 20:9 Display ratio. Compared to the old 19.5:9
Slightly taller but at least not as ridiculous as Sony 21:9.
Wondering why they are doing it though.
I think they’re increasing the sizes only because of the camera bumps. They probably want to make them bigger while retaining the current array. Those can’t get any bigger otherwise current Apple MagSafe Wallet—and probably the charger itself along with other accessories—simply won’t fit. The Apple logo is in the middle as well as the MagSafe coil. They absolutely would not move MagSafe lower and make it asymmetric to the iPhone itself.
I can’t find an image of the charger attached to the 15 Pro, but you get the idea when looking at the Clear Case.
I can’t find an image of the charger attached to the 15 Pro, but you get the idea when looking at the Clear Case.
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Interesting. Maybe this would make room for a new ‘mini’. This would have the size of the iPhone 11 pro - 5.8 inches.
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You didn’t, but the article does. That’s the premise I’m skeptical of: that in September 2023, Apple would know the dimensions of the iPhone 16 down to the millimeter and the weight down to the gram.
Apple would have no problem rendering the MagSafe wallet obsolete. None at all.
I’m not. The logistics of manufacturing all of these nearly demands that they’re established and locked in well in advance. A year isn’t that long.
Bigger and heavier, 
I skipped the 15Pro, and that makes the 16Pro/ProMax not very enticing. I don't want bigger.
I skipped the 15Pro, and that makes the 16Pro/ProMax not very enticing. I don't want bigger.
Maybe. What about the MagSafe itself? They can’t make it smaller, and they most definitely won’t place it lower on the phones due to the symmetry—as I already said. If they want to put bigger cameras, they have to increase the whole square glass part around them. That just won’t work. I doubt they’d rearrange the lenses.
I've nver used a screen protector I've put on myself. My Flip5 has one, but they all do.
I *LOVE* that idea, I'd be first in line for a caseless iPhone.
So you are saying it’s locked down to the gram. We’ll check in next year to see who was right. It could be you.
A friend was just telling me the other day how the 15 pro was similar to the X in dimensions (we were both mini users and he’s updated his 12 mini).
The X always felt like the perfect size. This is disappointing as I have a 13 mini and currently see no upgrade option coming for awhile (hopefully an SE).
The X always felt like the perfect size. This is disappointing as I have a 13 mini and currently see no upgrade option coming for awhile (hopefully an SE).
I’m skeptical of aspects of this, too. Not that the design of the iPhone 13 mini was decided early, but that it was “too late” for Apple to pull the plug on it. Apple could have axed the 13 mini at any point before the first production unit was produced (and, truthfully, even after).
They must have figured it would sell better than it did, despite disappointing iPhone 12 mini sales.
If you meant something along the lines of, it was too late for Apple to learn from what the market perceived as shortcomings of the iPhone 12 mini and apply them to the iPhone 13 mini, then I somewhat agree, with one caveat.
I think the market for smaller phones consists of two camps: those that want a small phone with few compromises with regards to camera, processor, and battery life, and those that want a cheaper phone. (I fall into the first camp, though I know battery life is a necessary compromise. I considered the iPhone 12 mini, but got the Pro because of the camera more than anything else).
The first camp are out of luck; that’s the sort of stuff Apple would have locked down early. But Apple could have accepted lower margins on the iPhone mini and sold more of them.
That wouldn’t make business sense (if customers decide the slightly lower price isn’t worth the compromises and buy a more expensive iPhone, Apple wins), but it wouldn’t have been “too late” for Apple to address that. They just have no reason to.
Anyway, comments here and elsewhere indicate the is a market for small, capable iPhones; the question is how large is that market, and is it worth it to Apple to address it. If would be iPhone mini buyers instead go Android, it’s worth it. If they instead buy a larger, more expensive iPhone, Apple is better off not offering one.
If there were to be an iPhone 16 Pro Mini, I’d likely buy it. As tight as Tim Cook and I are, I doubt that’ll sway him to make one, so I’m not holding my breath.
Sorry for the topic drift…
In my calculations I assumed that the current bezel width would remain the same, and calculated the display size based on the dimensions in this MacRumors article minus the current bezel widths. This results in an aspect ratio between 19.6:9 and 19.7:9.
Comparing just the outer dimensions, you get:
It gives them more wiggle room for the camera and other components, a larger battery, and brings the dynamic island back up to where the notch was, so it doesn’t cut into 18:9 video anymore (18:9 video became a thing on YouTube with the iPhone X).
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