iPhone 16 Pro Expected to Support '5G Advanced' With Qualcomm's Snapdragon X75 Modem

[BeatCrazy]

5G is scam to begin with, most people are not using 5G.
I just need reliable 4G.

5G is reliable 4G. The reason for the transition to 5G is increased reliability, scalability and capacity. If 4G could have done that well enough, there would have been no reason to move beyond it.

But 4G can’t do those three things any better, so 5G standards were adopted and implemented.

4G is a very hardware-bound architecture. 5G has scaling, capacity and resource management functionality that you all want (but don’t appear to know it). Raw speed has very little to do with it

 

[upandown]

5G is reliable 4G. The reason for the transition to 5G is increased reliability, scalability and capacity. If 4G could have done that well enough, there would have been no reason to move beyond it.

But 4G can’t do those three things any better, so 5G standards were adopted and implemented.

4G is a very hardware-bound architecture. 5G has scaling, capacity and resource management functionality that you all want (but don’t appear to know it). Raw speed has very little to do with it

Well said. One who’s done a little bit of research in networking can immediately recognize educated responses. The rest clearly show no knowledge of the technology. There’s actually an incredible amount of advancements happening right now, with many more to come.

 

[tridley68]

Ill stick with my 15 pro max but will definitely upgrade to the 16pro max

 

[BeatCrazy]

Well said. One who’s done a little bit of research in networking can immediately recognize educated responses. The rest clearly show no knowledge of the technology. There’s actually an incredible amount of advancements happening right now, with many more to come.

And those 5G advancements will be used by certain Apple products (not yet mentioned in this thread) that will make them work better and have functionality that is absolutely not supported by 4G. It's not about speed, folks.

 

[VisceralRealist]

Everyone is talking about speed issues, but my problem with 5G isn't speed, it's the weak signal. It's the fact that my internet connection gets interrupted when my phone struggles to connect to a weak 5G signal and then falls back on LTE. Sure, 5G works well when I'm downtown, but just go a little further to the suburbs and it gets noticeably worse.

 

[darkelipse04]

Elicited the same no **** Sherlock reaction as Mark Gurmans predictions.

 

[ilikewhey]

I’m in NYC and I can get 200 to 400 Mbps downloads. I just now ran Speedtest. 220 Mbps download. Are you on c-band, 5Guw?

c-band 5guw on occasions but otherwise just 5g. mind you i'm on 37th floor.

 

[bushman4]

Bring it on Apple.................everybody's ready

 

[Kiwidevdude]

Whats the bet the mmwave won't work outside the USA? I mostly spend time in Australia and there's a lot of mmwave sites in high-demand areas. Just seams kinda pointless to upgrade until they work that out

 

[macduke]

Yes! The new iPhone will be the newest iPhone yet. I think I will love it.

But do you think the new iPhone will be better than the old iPhone? I bet it will be better, because the old iPhone is old.

 

[macduke]

5G Advanced will include artificial intelligence and machine learning

Uh, can I opt-out of 5G Advanced?

Is...is 5G Advanced going to take my job?

 

[svish]

Don't think there will be any noticeable speed improvements due to the new chip.

 

[skoor101]

My interest is the latest QC modems is not so much for speed, but power usage and ability to connect with a tower. On my 14PM, I could feel the extra heat just putting it in the pocket when off WiFi. For the 15PM, still too new to have really tested much, but anything helps.

Also, I was dreading getting the first gen of an Apple modem. Glad it may be 2025+ or even never to have to wait until they really catchup with QC.

 

[SebCohen]

I’ve never cared less about anything tech related more than 5G. And I care about Non-ECC and ECC ram.

Perhaps equally so is NFT. Listened in on Twitter Spaces on a famous photog releasing a new “book” as NFT’s and I turned off because it ended up a “5G tech talk” about the tech behind NFT. Couldn’t care less. GaN chargers are more sexy.

 

[bp1000]

Says it all really for me.
Still trying to find 5g which is the speed demon it was suggested to be.

I thought it was meant to be much higher capacity and therefore speed.

 

[Pezimak]

No, right under a mast you won't have ant coverage, not even with 4G ( unless ofc you have overlap from a transiver in another nearby mast) something to to with the way the antennas are shaped, due to the fact that there aren't supposed to be anyone under the mast/tower. But I might just be taking your use of under a bit to literally

Sorry, but I got over 1.2 GB on my iPhone on 5G when stood under a mast. If you want to be technical maybe standing 2 or 3 meters from it. So it does work.

 

[Pezimak]

Whats the bet the mmwave won't work outside the USA? I mostly spend time in Australia and there's a lot of mmwave sites in high-demand areas. Just seams kinda pointless to upgrade until they work that out

It is available across Europe right now, you can get 2GBPS speeds on it in some parts, here in the UKmthe government is literally about to auction of spectrum for mmWave to the providers.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

What is 5G? Oh yes, its that patchy service that only seems to be available around major cities lol. I am more than happy with that though, I don't want to see towns and villages ruined by masts everywhere, but then judging by how long 4G took to roll out, I don't think that will be anytime soon.

 

[Surfsalot]

Means nothing for Australia, so many black spots, dropouts galore lol

 

[bn-7bc]

Sorry, but I got over 1.2 GB on my iPhone on 5G when stood under a mast. If you want to be technical maybe standing 2 or 3 meters from it. So it does work.

Ok )then I was wrong thanks for correcting me. I suspect I got tripped up by Incorrectly translating mast (which is wary similar to the Norwegian word mast , in this context cell tower - ie big freging tall tower) under those there really are a deadzone ( unless you have spillower coverage from another.) come to think of it you probably where not talking about those masts as thay are usually fenced in as they are considered vital parts of the infrastructure and there are "national security implications" of such a site being compromised, unless ofc you work for a telco or ther sub contractors and have been granted access

 

[bn-7bc]

What is 5G? Oh yes, its that patchy service that only seems to be available around major cities lol. I am more than happy with that though, I don't want to see towns and villages ruined by masts everywhere, but then judging by how long 4G took to roll out, I don't think that will be anytime soon.

that is the fault of the lecos and regulators not the technology, but yea higher frequencies lead o smaller coverage areas and mor radios needed, physics is a b***h

 

[Pezimak]

Ok )then I was wrong thanks for correcting me. I suspect I got tripped up by Incorrectly translating mast (which is wary similar to the Norwegian word mast , in this context cell tower - ie big freging tall tower) under those there really are a deadzone ( unless you have spillower coverage from another.) come to think of it you probably where not talking about those masts as thay are usually fenced in as they are considered vital parts of the infrastructure and there are "national security implications" of such a site being compromised, unless ofc you work for a telco or ther sub contractors and have been granted access

Ah no, Three UK have been installing super poles as they are called, monopoles that go on pavements / sidewalks, otherwise they use towers, but you can find antennas on lamp posts, on top of buildings like hospitals, all sorts as well as the towers which can be different sizes. I even have one array close to me where they’ve painted it green to try and hide it in the tree line lol.
The Super Pole doesn’t use mmWave though I don’t think, but it uses a higher frequency to get the speeds, I expect as mmWave is rolled out we will see all sorts of different masts then if they get planning permission.

This is a super pole:

 

[Pezimak]

What is 5G? Oh yes, it’s that patchy service that only seems to be available around major cities lol. I am more than happy with that though, I don't want to see towns and villages ruined by masts everywhere, but then judging by how long 4G took to roll out, I don't think that will be anytime soon.

On the flip side to that though, is that it means poor coverage for ALL mobile technologies, 3G is strongest but government has legislated to turn that off, so all providers will have done so by 2027, and 4G has sporadic coverage, then 5G. Where I live I can only get 5G on EE, but EE have crap performance indoors and EE and it’s MVNO’s are the most expensive on the market, next is Three which has sporadic 4G, blistering 5G where it’s available sadly not in my direct area, better indoor performance but mostly it uses 3G.
then we have Vodafone and O2 which in my are are both really poor, in some places they drop to EDGE, no 5G to speak of and some 4G.
So you have a market totally out of balance where you are limited to whoever gives you signal that works in your area, not the best price of value or customer service etc. Because people don’t wants masts put up, anywhere.

 

[JapanApple]

This actually might be an upgrade time for me with the 16 promax

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

On the flip side to that though, is that it means poor coverage for ALL mobile technologies, 3G is strongest but government has legislated to turn that off, so all providers will have done so by 2027, and 4G has sporadic coverage, then 5G. Where I live I can only get 5G on EE, but EE have crap performance indoors and EE and it’s MVNO’s are the most expensive on the market, next is Three which has sporadic 4G, blistering 5G where it’s available sadly not in my direct area, better indoor performance but mostly it uses 3G.
then we have Vodafone and O2 which in my are are both really poor, in some places they drop to EDGE, no 5G to speak of and some 4G.
So you have a market totally out of balance where you are limited to whoever gives you signal that works in your area, not the best price of value or customer service etc. Because people don’t wants masts put up, anywhere.

Its complete madness to turn 3G off at this point I think. There are still places in the UK and not necessarily too rural where 4G is still not available and 3G is the only connection. I am off to West Wales in a couple of hours and its people who are living out there for example who will lose out unless 4G can be extended to those areas. I suppose as long as those in cities are ok it is out of sight out of mind.