iPhone 16 Pro Rumor Recap: Larger Displays, Capture Button, 5G Advanced, and More

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remember when the 4 leaking was like…the biggest tech story of the year?

sigh- I miss the mystique sometimes, rather than hearing rumors barely a month after the newest model is announced.

Do we really need a capture button when the volume buttons already do that?

my guess is that it has something to do with making spatial photos+videos easier to capture, as the button would be on the side of the phone that the double lenses run along. what do I know though 🤷‍♂️😆

 

[citysnaps]

Current form factor is getting long in the tooth. Basically the same since 11.

What form factors would you like to see? Circular, triangular? Dodecahedrion?

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Does anyone feel like 6.7 is the perfect size, I'm not sure we need a 6.9... might as well start getting an iPad mini at that point.

Visit an Apple store and compare 6.9" phone to 8" iPad Mini. While the numbers sound close, the relative size is dramatically different.

And perfect size seems to always be shifting with whatever Apple has for sale now. While 3.5" was spun as "perfect", the fandom ridiculed anything bigger. Then Apple proclaimed 4" "perfect" and "we" ridiculed phablets: "one handed use", fragmentation, man purses, pants with bigger pockets, etc. Then Apple went phablet sized and that became the new "perfect." Ironically, now the fandom ridicules anyone desiring a smaller iPhone.

If a phone size is perfect, there should be no better perfect over time. Perfect is perfect. Per Apple, 3.5" is perfect, 4" is perfect, early phablet sizes are perfect, subsequent phablets are perfect and future phablets... and potentially folds/rolls... will be perfect too. Best I can ascertain: "perfect" is the size(s) available for sale now... and all other sizes- including formerly "perfect" sizes are now imperfect or worse.

 

[ifxf]

WiFi 7 is not coming to the next iPhone 16. I wish MR would realize that Apple has been slow to adopt WiFi and cellular standards.

WiFi 7 is likely to come in 2025 with the iPhone 17 but may arrive as late as 2026 for the iPhone 18.

Most younger users don’t even bother with the hassles of Wifi, they just use cellular all of the time.

 

[ccsicecoke]

Here is the new iPhone 16 Pro. Hopefully it can be folded

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

I think the display size increase comes from reduced bezels so the phone isn't getting physically larger.

Obviously...

 

[now i see it]

I guess we’re going to have to wait until iPhone XX (20) to get some substantial changes (like get rid of the OLED displays)

 

[klasma]

Not about time for 8K video capture yet?

48Megapixel cameras and 8K video easily go together. 8K TVs have been available for a few years now. Since M1, Apple has been spinning how silicon can handle multiple streams of 8K video at the same time. 8K-capable iDevice camera begets 8K AppleTVs and more robust Mac hardware needs to actually edit multiple streams of 8K at the same time. It also leads to an 8K (or will that be 10K?) ASD II and perhaps 12K Pro Monitor with $4K monitor stand?

I know, I know: "The chart" and "nobody can see..." and "99% don't want" and "until the entire Internet is sped up" and "until all video in the iTunes Store is available in 8K" and blah, blah, blah (all the same stuff we slung against Apple going 4K while they still clung to 1080p and going 1080p while they still clung to 720p, which immediately evaporates as soon as Apple chooses to make the leap.

Nevertheless, resolution upgrades is a very tangible upgrade (see 48mega-pixel camera) and higher resolution can drive people to want/need/believe they need to upgrade various other Apple hardware to take advantage of it, so there's lots of additional revenue potential in embracing 8K as the new peak resolution in Appleland. Last I checked, Apple likes revenue.

8K TVs have an estimated market share of only 0.15 %. Nobody cares.

8K TV "stop before it starts": this year's sales may only be 300,000 units

Author: Audiovisual Circle Source: Audiovisual Circle Although the global color TV market picked up in the second quarter, it is still difficult to "stop" the downward trend of global color TV market sales this year. Recently, the industry organization TrendForce released data.

www.linkedin.com

 

[Greenmeenie]

Sounds great. But I would love to see 4 dedicated lenses on the 16 Pro Max. A .5x, 1x, 3x & 5x. I love the 5x(120mm) take on the 15 Pro Max, but miss the true 3x(77mm) lens. Cropping in is not the answer. There is a huge quality gap now btwn the 1x & 5x. Add a fourth lens on the 16 Pro Max & photogs will be happy. Also the 13 Pros still have the largest apertures for their lenses (1.5 & 1.8) of any iPhone. Dunno why Apple changed that. Bring the larger apertures back with the 16 Pros. That plus the larger sensors would let even more light in. 👍

 

[chfilm]

a bit bigger than the regular pro, yey, but taller!?

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Taller aspect ratio?

The current 21:9 ratio is already too tall!

When can we get a fatty one like the iPad nano 3rd gen?

Buy a cellular iPad Mini, install a Voip app for telephony, use buds with mic for calls and iPad Mini is your "fat" phone. I've been doing this for about a decade now and don't feel like I'm missing a thing... except pocket-ability. It works great... and costs much less than iPhone plus iPhone unlimited service... and generally doesn't go "long in tooth" as fast as iPhones either. My own jump was from iPad Mini 2 to 6. I suspect my next one will be Mini 9 or 10 out in 2028-2030.

 

[klasma]

Does anyone feel like 6.7 is the perfect size, I'm not sure we need a 6.9... might as well start getting an iPad mini at that point.

The iPad mini is almost double the width. Also the 6.9” will be a minor increase in height, not in width.

 

[ItsMeMicke]

Looking forward iPhone 16, iPhone 15 was a boring release.

Upgraded super wide. No 48MP tele? 😁

 

[Seeds]

Wish they’d leave the screen size it’s perfect on the 15 pro max right now.

 

[darngooddesign]

Sounds great. But I would love to see 4 dedicated lenses on the 16 Pro Max. A .5x, 1x, 3x & 5x. I love the 5x(120mm) take on the 15 Pro Max, but miss the true 3x(77mm) lens. Cropping in is not the answer. There is a huge quality gap now btwn the 1x & 5x. Add a fourth lens on the 16 Pro Max & photogs will be happy. Also the 13 Pros still have the largest apertures for their lenses (1.5 & 1.8) of any iPhone. Dunno why Apple changed that. Bring the larger apertures back with the 16 Pros. That plus the larger sensors would let even more light in. 👍

Yeah I really wish Apple had added the 5X instead of replacing the 3X, and the 5X need 48MP so zooming past that looks better.

 

[klasma]

Can we start reducing the size of that Dynamic Island already? I think the 16 Pro will need some improvements in that area after 2 generations with it.

Unlikely. I think one reason they are increasing the display height is to make the DI line up where the notch was (the DI is currently slightly below).

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

8K TVs have an estimated market share of only 0.15 %. Nobody cares.

8K TV "stop before it starts": this year's sales may only be 300,000 units

Author: Audiovisual Circle Source: Audiovisual Circle Although the global color TV market picked up in the second quarter, it is still difficult to "stop" the downward trend of global color TV market sales this year. Recently, the industry organization TrendForce released data.

www.linkedin.com

Yep and that was slung about 4K... and 1080p BEFORE Apple embraced those too. Of course, once Apple rolls out 8K, we seem to forget about such opinions and suddenly, many people care. Funny how that works.

And how many people have 48Megapixel displays? Wifi 7 installed? Who can connect to 5G Advanced?

0.0% owns Vpro today, so why are new phones just launched able to shoot spatial video?

 

[klasma]

I think the display size increase comes from reduced bezels so the phone isn't getting physically larger.

In width, yes, but it is getting larger in height.

 

[klasma]

Do we really need a capture button when the volume buttons already do that?

I think the point is that it would also activate the camera, even when the phone is locked.

 

[andywaynebrooks]

The "capture button" is for the new iPhone SE. It's a finger print capture sensor (very similar to what's on the iPad Air). This will allow the iPhone SE to cut the cost of Face ID while also getting the larger screen size.

 

[Lakersfan74]

What form factors would you like to see? Circular, triangular? Dodecahedrion?

Round off the edges a little bit more so it’s even more comfortable. Power button on the top right like an iPad. Place the action button where the current power button is. Change the camera array in the back preferably three vertical. Make the phone fat enough to where the camera bump is similar to the 12 if they can’t get rid of all of it. Smaller radius corners of the display or squared off.
Maybe volume up and down rocker instead of separate buttons or make them round again.
I’m indifferent about dynamic island, but I would rather have a small forehead bezel that goes across the width and everything underneath it.

 

[klasma]

Yep and that was slung about 4K... and 1080p before that BEFORE Apple embraced those too. Of course, once Apple rolls out 8K, we seem to forget about such opinions and suddenly, many people care. Funny how that works.

Virtually nobody will buy an 8K TV just because Apple adds 8K video recording. Nobody already does for viewing 48MP photos. Most people still watch only 1080p content.

 

[Chiromac81]

Not about time for 8K video capture yet?

48Megapixel cameras and 8K video easily go together. 8K TVs have been available for a few years now. Since M1, Apple has been spinning how silicon can handle multiple streams of 8K video at the same time. 8K-capable iDevice camera begets 8K AppleTVs and more robust Mac hardware needs to actually edit multiple streams of 8K at the same time. It also leads to an 8K (or will that be 10K?) ASD II and perhaps 12K Pro Monitor with $4K monitor stand?

I know, I know: "The chart" and "nobody can see..." and "99% don't want" and "until the entire Internet is sped up" and "until all video in the iTunes Store is available in 8K" and blah, blah, blah (all the same stuff we slung against Apple going 4K while they still clung to 1080p and going 1080p while they still clung to 720p, which immediately evaporates as soon as Apple chooses to make the leap.

Nevertheless, resolution upgrades is a very tangible upgrade (see 48mega-pixel camera) and higher resolution can drive people to want/need/believe they need to upgrade various other Apple hardware to take advantage of it, so there's lots of additional revenue potential in embracing 8K as the new peak resolution in Appleland. Last I checked, Apple likes revenue.

Have you seen the charts? 8k is worthless unless sitting 3 feet from a 85 inch display

 

[maerz001]

Do we really need a capture button when the volume buttons already do that?

Yep. And the new programmable mute button and the swipe gesture and the icon on the lock screen.

If its really happening apple once for all lost its track of simplicity

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Virtually nobody will buy an 8K TV just because Apple adds 8K video recording. Nobody already does for viewing 48MP photos. Most people still watch only 1080p content.

Nobody is forced to buy an 8K TV just because Apple adds 8K video recording... just as nobody was forced to buy a 4K TV when Apple embraced 4K or a 1080p TV when Apple embraced 1080p. And yet, Apple did embrace 1080p and 4K recording anyway and while it affected no one clinging to a lessor standard, it provided something desirable to those with higher resolution televisions and an accumulating library of video content whenever the SD or HD crowd got/gets around to buying 4K or 8K TVs.

Video shot or sold at higher resolution scales down to any television resolution and looks as great as the TV can display. It just doesn't work the OTHER way.

OR

Virtually nobody will buy Vpro just because Apple has already added spatial video recording to iPhone. But Apple added it anyway. Most people still record in SD, 1080p or 4K content.

I don't even have an 8K TV myself but I shoot a LOT of video and I'd rather future proof the video knowing that eventually 8K will be like 4K in terms of adoption and replacement TV availability. 1080p sets for sale in 2023 are a rapidly fading segment and SD sets are probably considered novelty these days. As it did for HD and then 4K, the day will come when Average Joe's new TV is an 8K TV. But Joe won't be able to go back and re-shoot accumulated video at 8K until cameras can actually capture it... just like I can't hop back to the 1980s and reshoot old VHS video in 4K today (though I so wish I could have that same video in much better resolution now).