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iPhone 16 Pro Rumor Recap: Larger Displays, Capture Button, 5G Advanced, and More
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Where is this coming from? My home cell reception isn't great. I, and the younger ones, use wifi. There is absolutely NO hassle in using it.
But that doesn’t mean that the capability shouldn’t be in the flagship iPhone, the technology is there…
Beginnings are always slow…
Look at past trends. First android device to get WiFi 6E was almost 3 years ago. It took the iPhone 3 years to get WiFi 6E. Macrumors said for iPhone 13 and iPhone 14 that they would get WiFi 6E as well but they were clearly guessing and don’t understand why Apple doesn’t adopt right away.
The reason why Apple does not adopt is because the first generation of WiFi/cellular chips is often poorly optimized and power hungry.
Go look up articles on this if you don’t believe me. Look for articles speculating what the iPhone 13 or 14 would have. Look at the original iPhones and the fact that the first iPhone didn’t have 3G, even though every other phone at the time did.
First Apple device to get WiFi 6E was the iPad Pro. The 2024 iPad Pro will not get WiFi 7 so we’re likely talking about a late 2025 iPad Pro maybe getting WiFi 7.
Apple has to do something about the 5gUW on north american carries on the C-band specttrum as it just murders the battery life of the device just doing basic operations.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
As was 4K before Apple embraced 4K... and as was 1080p before Apple embraced 1080p. That "the chart" has been slung at EVERY resolution hop, always used to try to put down what Apple is not yet offering while justifying what Apple is currently offering.
All of the same old arguments against the NEXT resolution hop have been slung against 4K before Apple went there and against 1080p before Apple went there. However, once Apple makes the leap, Apple is never called out as stupid or wrong for embracing the new resolution and the "the chart" makers apparently erase the old numbers and write in the new numbers to recycle the same argument against the NEXT resolution when that inevitably pops up.
Adding a 4th lens would likely swing me over.
Since i am now going on year 3 for the very first time between iPhones, I am coming to the realization that the only area where I need to see improvement is the camera and since there is no real optical zoom on the 15PM, the 5x alone isn’t a selling factor for me. For my needs, wifi, 5G/LTE, processor, weight of my 13PM are fine, I would take a larger screen too
8k is coming, no question, and repeating myself, as the technology is there, no reason the flagship iPhone shouldn’t use it
Enabling it in hardware and software comes with a non-negligible cost. Note that it requires four times the processing power of 4K, and whatever the increase in memory and I/O bandwidth is. If hardly anyone will use it, that isn’t worthwhile for Apple.
Most content is nowadays consumes on mobile devices, and both the iPhone and the iPad displays are considerably below even 4K. With photos, having a higher resolution makes somewhat more sense because you can zoom in. But for video?
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8K video and 48MP photos are equally useful when it comes to cropping and downsampling for increased quality.
That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to that. For next years iPhone flagship, it better be there
I’m sure it would barely make an iota of difference for iPhone sales.
My feeling is that people clamoring for such features are just running after specs for specs sake.
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HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Cost only if people choose to shoot in it. Those like you apparently happy with 4K or less could opt NOT to shoot anything in 8K and thus pay no higher cost. A-series chips are going to evolve anyway so memory and I/O bandwidth is going to increase for other reasons (like the current spin about gaming).
Will hardly anyone use spatial video recording in the just-launched new iPhones? If not, presumably, you think Apple is wrong for embracing it???
iDevices can't even get close to displaying 48Megapixels but Apple embraces it anyway. Are they wrong to do that since iDevice screens can't display it?
Look: clearly you have no desire for 8K video capture. That's fine. Your opinion is as good as anyone else's. But you don't need to cast these blanket reasons why it should exist for no one. Others- like me- are interested in 8K recording. Making it available as an OPTION doesn't affect you in the least: you can still shoot and watch video in whatever resolution you want on whatever TV you have.
Again, I don't even have an 8K TV but I'd like to shoot my video in 8K ASAP. My 4K TV will show 8K video as sharp as 4K can display 4K. A 1080p TV still hanging in another room will show 8K video as sharp as 1080p can display 1080p. However my future 8K TV will not be able to turn video shot at 4K or 1080p or SD into pristine 8K video. Ideal scaling only works one way (DOWN from a video master).
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No, Apple has to design and source the hardware and develop the software for it.
If not, then yes, they would be wrong.
It makes sense for photos because people tend to zoom into them. That’s not the case for videos.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Apple is going to design hardware improvements anyway. And they already spin 8K editing since M1: "multiple streams of 8K"...
Rumors of Apple going 8K in the "next iPhone" have already flown for a few years now... generally associated with when Apple would go 48Megapixel camera... particularly in a rumored "ultra" iPhone. Samsung premium phones have been able to shoot 8K for a few years now starting with the S20, albeit at only the motion picture speed of 24fps... so it's yet another opportunity of "Apple may not be first but..." when they embrace it.
And editors desire higher resolution video to also be able to zoom in on/crop the footage. For example, pro cameras available now can shoot in 12K, which will probably NEVER have a native display television (that hop will probably be 8K to 16K). Why would any pro buy a 12K camera? Shoot in 12K and edit down to 8K or 4K...
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What? Videos are shot in 8k and higher for just the fun of it? Zoom/crop is just as much used in video as for photos
I get a new phone every year so doesn't matter what the 16 has but I can't understand why Apple would think that we need the iphones to be bigger...
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Because "another record quarter for revenue & profit" keeps flowing. Record revenue has followed ever-growing iPhone sizes for years now. Yes, size may not be the primary driver of those records but this may be a case of "if it ain't broke..." strategy.
Also, there are a number of countries with iPhone is THE Apple computer for the masses. Those masses want more screen for laptop stand-in purposes. I suspect if Apple would put the phone's VOIP app in iPad Mini, the iPad sales to those markets would explode.
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The 15 Pro really is perfection for those of us who value one-handed use!