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I've never understood this, "I'm so glad I decided to hold off." Probably the most-overused meme on this board. It's so easy to upgrade every year now with minimal to no change in monthly payment. Why wait a year or two to have the best? Life is too short to wait "for next year" for anything simply because "next year's model" will be even nicer.

Yes it's easy, but I don't make payments on my phone (pay 100% upfront) and I don't trade the old ones and prefer handing them down. Do what you want, but just because it's easy doesn't make it smart for everyone. I don't care about having the newest or best, nor I see much difference between my 13 pro and the 15 pro, when I barely use the cameras.

Yearly upgraders are a dying breed.
 
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Next year’s upgrades will be a snoozer unless they pull something new. Dynamic island, and USB-C won’t be new. Chip upgrades are expected. What else can they do to entice people to upgrade next year? Titanium lol.
 
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New display 100% - new OLED material and more bright.
Battery stacked tech.
LPDDR5X was rumored for a long time
New camera system - new 48mp ultra wide and probably main + selfie
Solid state buttons (?)
Faster charging
Thunderbold
 
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Remember the days when all Apple users cared about was the the user experience of the software and the design? Since the switch to Intel, I feel like we've become obsessed with feeds and speeds even more. Yeah, I remember when Steve Jobs use to talk the new G4 and G3, but it was kinda of an afterthought.
 
Next year’s upgrades will be a snoozer unless they pull something new. Dynamic island, and USB-C won’t be new. Chip upgrades are expected. What else can they do to entice people to upgrade next year? Titanium lol.
Let’s hope the dynamic island is smaller and the size of a hole punch and not the current monstrosity we have. Early testers to the new Resident evil games have already said the dynamic island is an eye sore for a $60 game. And it’s interruptive of the immersion in gameplay.
Imagine you have a hoard of zombies clawing at you and your dynamic island pops up to tell you that your Nan text you about her hydrangeas.
People are happy about the game and its performance. It’s stellar. But that dynamic island is already the most vocal stain on AAA iPhone gaming so far.
 
This trend of giving, comparatively, less and less upgrades to the non-Pros has only accelerated ever since Apple split up the iPhone line-up in 2017 with iPhone X and iPhones 8.

I really don’t know why anyone is still surprised by this?

Do you expect Apple to willingly see growth stagnate or decrease?

They make these products with profits as their first priority. Everything else is secondary.
 
So they’re going to engineer an inferior product just to differentiate it from the more expensive model like they did with the iPad 10?
 
New display 100% - new OLED material and more bright.
Battery stacked tech.
LPDDR5X was rumored for a long time
New camera system - new 48mp ultra wide and probably main + selfie
Solid state buttons (?)
Faster charging
Thunderbold
I can see those last three making their debut on the Pro first but not the standard. Standard may also get WiFi 6E while the Pro get Wi-Fi 7. USB-C 3 on Standard and thunderbolt on the Pro would be nice.
 
Why can’t apple use stainless steel for the non pro’s, then called it pro’s and other two Ultra Pro, Ultra max. 90hz for Pro, for 120hz Ultra
 
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So next year will be A17 on Non-Pro and A18 Pro on Pro iPhone? Not confusing at all. Why not simply call it A18 (it’s just a name anyway) and A18 Pro
It would make sense they are trying to further the lines between consumer level and pro. Justifying in the eyes of consumers the price difference.
 
Never forget that the standard model is a descendant of the XR, the “cheap” model, while the Pro is what we used to call iPhone.
And since they have very few new ideas left to make the Pro better, they can only make the standard iPhone worse to justify that price difference.
 
It is the non-Pro offshoot of the A17 Pro. Different process, but same cores. Same generation, just a year later.

And this isn't unprecedented. The A9X was on a different process node than the A9. But the cores were the same (just different counts). So the naming does make sense.
The average buyer doesn’t know anything about the technical details. Have one chip that is non-pro and another that is pro. If you’re going to attach numbers to them make them the same to avoid confusion.
 
iPhone 16 with A18. iPhone 16 Pro with A18 Pro and iPhone 16 Ultra with A18 Ultra.
What’s the difference between the Pro and the Ultra. Or is the Ultra just going to be a re-branded Pro Max that’s more expensive?
 
The average buyer doesn’t know anything about the technical details.

The average buyer doesn't know that there's an A-series chip in there or what that means. The chip naming isn't for them.

Have one chip that is non-pro and another that is pro. If you’re going to attach numbers to them make them the same to avoid confusion.

Naming it A18 even though it's internally an A17 would be even more confusing.
 
How about dual boot support so when I plug my iPhone 16 into a USB-C hub I can plug in my 4K display keyboard and mouse and external solid-state hard drive and boot macOS Sonoma, it's powerful enough to do it. :rolleyes:
 
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you mean before the 3G and the 3GS and the introduction of basic features like video recording, cut copy and paste, third-party applications, multimedia messaging, and where even simple text messages interrupted literally anything you were doing with a big dialogue box you were forced to interact with?

Yeah, I think you’re probably alone on that
Sure, I was talking about pure software functions in a thread focused on hardware. :rolleyes:
No, I mean when there was the best phone Apple could create and they didn't purposefully gimp other models so they could have a comparison point for margin sake.
 
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