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If you were to ask a typical iPhone user about their screens refresh rate, very very few would know or care. Higher refresh capability is nice and the tech has matured to be on lower end devices. But it’s far from a critical feature for most people. Most people don’t even know.
The average consumer will put up with all sorts of junk because they don’t know any better. The fact that people are more willing to defend or rationalize companies that deliver the subpar out of some weird brand loyalty is exactly why *gestures broadly at everything*
 
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If you were to ask a typical iPhone user about their screens refresh rate, very very few would know or care. Higher refresh capability is nice and the tech has matured to be on lower end devices. But it’s far from a critical feature for most people. Most people don’t even know.
I compared the 16 to the 16 Pro and goddammit, I can see the difference. Was considering the 16 but might hold off for the 17.
 
I always considered The valuable frame rate that results in power savings to be the key part “promotion”, not the 120 Hz (Even though typically maxes out at just 90 Hz, but no one seems to notice)
Yes
Curious, what is the use for this?
so you dont have to keep pressing redial when the phone rings out. Like when you are trying to call your doctor or a taxi thats engaged. It will keep calling until it’s answered. Having to continuously press redial every 30 seconds for 30 minutes can be a real bummer.
 
Has ANYBODY ever said "I really love the iPhone, but it is too fat!"? The iPhone Air does not seem to make sense, if it really has a smaller battery and a worse camera.
Loads of people complain its too heavy. The iphone is a beast. I keep saying this but they are heavier than the old school nokia 5110 for example that phone is literally an inch thick.
 
In the past they used internal metal structures to make the polycarbonate products more sturdy, increasing the overall weight. Not to mention issues with cracking, discolouring and scratching. Aluminium has much better properties and is the better choice.

iPhone Aluminium 5 (2012) - 112 grams
iPhone 5C Polycarbonate (2013) - 132 grams

MacBook Unibody Aluminium (2008) - 2.04 kg
MacBook Polycarbonate (2010, lightest they ever managed) - 2.13 kg

I'd love an aluminum back on iPhone again, get rid of the glass. That could be quite a weight saver.
Good point well made. I just want a lighter phone and the glass back is dumb. Alu back would be fine i agree. Also can we have some nice colours that arent a different shade of grey.
 
If they do this, other than the cameras, I wonder how they will differentiate the standard from the pro models going forward. Especially since they set the precedent of using (essentially) the same processor on the standard and pro models.
Have they really? Apple's rule used to be to use the same processor on every current iPhone model including the SE. Then they broke that by not only making the non Pro models have a year old chip last year but they started the Pro models only having Pro chips. I think this now established they will never have the same processors again.
 
I was a fan of the 16 until it came out. Now I think the iphone 17 minus is the One.
 
The average consumer will put up with all sorts of junk because they don’t know any better. The fact that people are more willing to defend or rationalize companies that deliver the subpar out of some weird brand loyalty is exactly why *gestures broadly at everything*
Even prosumers don’t know what’s available. Some of the most cutting edge technology is only seen by a fraction of people in R&D labs in industry and the military, and some in university research labs.

For whatever reason, be it economic, practical or political, the rest of world would never know of its existence or that a certain technology was possible until it became public or commercialized. A tonne of research ends up being shelved for a variety of the above reasons and never sees the light of day.

So yeah, your iPhone with ultra high screen refresh may be appealing, but you didn’t know that x, y and z was possible but never persued and therefore your phone is actually yesterdays tech. You’d never know, so even a pro user will put up with what could be considered junk from a technological advancement aspect because you have no idea what’s actually possible.
 
Will anyone be surprised if they introduce variable refresh rate with 60hz as a maximum on iPhone 17 😄
 
Will anyone be surprised if they introduce variable refresh rate with 60hz as a maximum on iPhone 17 😄
Perhaps a display with a fixed 120Hz rate with the corresponding hit to battery life. That would keep the promotion variable rate displays on the Pro phones, a useful premium item
 
So you're saying the iPhone 16 has equal or worse value than the $400 Galaxy A35?

No. I'm just saying if a $400 phone can have adaptive refresh rates faster than 60Hz, a $799 phone that's twice as expensive should have too, at the very least.
 
No. I'm just saying if a $400 phone can have adaptive refresh rates faster than 60Hz, a $799 phone that's twice as expensive should have too, at the very least.
Right I got that, but to reiterate, my question was what should the price of the current base iPhone be to make it a fair deal since it doesn't have 120hz? If someone is able to judge that it's too expensive to not have 120hz, then it's logical that they should be able to say what a fair price would be for it since it doesn't have 120hz. No?
 
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