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Heh... "it's not a rumor"

Yes... some guy posting anonymously about talking to some guys at Apple and ATT. Like even anyone at ATT knows what's going on.

I believe there will be a new phone coming out in six months or so, but I don't believe it's a replacement to the current phone.
 
I'm embarrassed FOR you.

I hate to be mean spirited, but I agree. 98% of Apple in HQ have no idea when the next iPhone is coming, and you think some dude at AT&T knows.

This phone is going to be around for about a year. There is no 3G in the US coming any time soon until the chipset gets better, and Apple has no European carrier.
 
I wouldn't count on seeing a 3G iPhone in the US anytime soon, at least until the whole Qualcomm 3G ban has been resolved for some time. Won't be an issue for Europe but right now, Qualcomm 3G chips can't be imported into the US says the FTC which is one of the most common/popular 3G chips used today.

I'd give it at least a year - year and 1/2.
 
You have to forgive people for taking this claim with a pinch of salt... how a 19 year-old is privy to executive-level product planning within Apple — ringed by contractual NDAs — is a bit of a stretch.

I always believe everything I hear from someone who can't even type out entire words or use even a resemblance of sentence structure. Don't you?
 
True i didn't say a WHOLE NEW iPHONE or anything i said newer model.. just like the MacBook Pro and the iMacs and the Airport.. if u notice at lest every 6 months apple upgrades something. so this' would be the 2nd gen iPhone. And ppl would buy it u know why?.. b/c if ur an existin att customer.. they'll just extend ur contact another 2yrs or so... and ppl dont' care cuz it's the iPhone.. from apple. Steve knows wut he is doing.. or else he wouldn't have succeeded wit the iPods... or anything else.. the ipods are now in there 5th or 6 gen now.. right?



actually you did say whole new phone. the name of your thread is iPhone 2.0. may wanna change that to...

iPhone Rev. B coming soon...
 
Okay i talked to a person at Apple and At&t (good friends) after begging them they said Dec it's Coming out. Going to have 3G 100% that's all they're telling me.. and soon I'll be working for Cingular/At&t!! yay!!! Stay Tune for More info as i get more...

THIS IS NOT A RUMOR

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Okay i talked to a person at Apple and At&t (good friends) after begging them they said Dec it's Coming out. Going to have 3G 100% that's all they're telling me.. and soon I'll be working for Cingular/At&t!! yay!!! Stay Tune for More info as i get more...

THIS IS NOT A RUMOR

And in January v3.0 will come out with 5G, 1 terabyte flash drive, will be open to all phone carriers, have a virtual mind control keyboard and project a 72" virtual holographic sceen.

THIS in not a rumor. (Its something else... :p )
 
lol @ this thread

Some people just dont have the ability to fully understand business, and believe anything that is told to them as long as it falls into what they want to hear lol

So easy...

Hey run and tell your friends that i know a person who works for apple and is really close to the janitor who while cleaning an office he overheard 2 apple workers
talk about how the next iphone is coming out in december with a 1tb flash drive and will also have the processing power of a 4 mobile core chips.

It is not a rumor is word of mouth (and you know how strong they are lol hahaha)
 
Okay i talked to a person at Apple and At&t (good friends) after begging them they said Dec it's Coming out. Going to have 3G 100% that's all they're telling me.. and soon I'll be working for Cingular/At&t!! yay!!! Stay Tune for More info as i get more...

THIS IS NOT A RUMOR

Great. I'll buy that one too.
 
Whoever posted this is a fool. It might be a good guess but NEVER would they let a PEON in on apple's roadmap. Think about it, i know about 20+ apple corporate employees at cupertino and in the industry, ever heard of NDA. They are pretty tight lipped about things people are working on. Apple just like many other companies, to keep things secret, they only let people know as much as needed so that they can do their job function.
 
how about trying to spell complete words if you want people to even think you might be credible?

Hit the nail on the head. No spelling = no credibility.

Do you REALLY think some kid who still types "wut" would be given such top-secret Apple information? Please. :rolleyes:
 
Ha! this is not a rumor

Just me speculating.

If you look at MacRuors Buying guide you can see a heavy reliance on interpolating. It probably works as often as it doesn't but at least it makes sense. My guess based on Apples past iPod realeases is we will see a hardware revision in 5 - 10 months (there should be plenty of software updates meanwhile). Maybe a little more or less depending on what FCC rules are on revisions and when sales start declining.
I don't know if you can but a 3G chip in the present iPhone. Didn't Steve Jobs say in an interview that there both heat and size issues?
If you look at Apples other offerings, Apple likes to have 2-3 versions of things. And if you look at the early evolution of the ipod as a model, we can make some predictions that seem logical. In about a year the present iPhone gets a price decrease of $100 and a bigger iPhone comes in at the present price. Perhaps that one will include 3G and GPS. I can't envision a smaller iPhone, the iphone nano, that doesn't end up being a rockr but maybe someone at apple can. That would be in like 2 years and be priced $100 less than the orriginal iphone.
Another good question is when the touchscreen video iPod comes out, you know the one without a phone but with a harddrive. I would like to guess in the fall to get ready for the holidays but that might just be too soon after the iPhone. If it doesn't come out then, my guess is next summer.
 
I don't think the contract lock in is as bad as people seem to think for people always planning on using an iPhone.

Because the phone wasn't subsidized, AT&T let anyone with a current contract buy one and upgrade, and it just reset the clock on their contract. Unlike every other phone they sell today, when the next rev comes out, you can bet Apple and AT&T will gladly let a current iPhone user buy the next rev and re-up without penalty. There's no way Apple would put up with preventing a current customer from giving them more money.

You'll just never see the end of the two year contract, but that's not really a new thing. I've been an AT&T wireless (and its ancestors Cell One and Cingular) customer for 8 years with 4 or 5 different handsets, back to when they had AMPS startacs, and been under a subsidy contract for the majority of that time.
 
Where to begin...

First off, Apple and at&t would face severe backlash if they were to release a substantially superior product so quick after the initial release with no painless and economically feasible upgrade path.

While that has been Apple's past practice, Apple is in a unique position. With iPod and iTunes dominance they cannot afford to be labeled by the masses the 'next Microsoft'. For Apple to release a product so soon after would infuriate many customers, and the press would run with it and it could sway the entore iPod empire to an Anti-Apple stance. Already, with Apple's name everywhere, there is a growing concern for iPod dominance and many jumping on Linux/alternatives.

The iPhone is unlike any other Apple product. Apple has stated publically it will receive revenue from each phone sale for at least 24 months. That menas they can do substantial software enhancements and feature additions in this time legally. If you notice, most Apple software has updates/bug fixes but rarely enhances functionalty and almost never extends functionality. With the wacky accounting, Apple has the POTENTIAL to roll out paid/free substantial updates that extend functionality. Meaning, the myriad of shotcomings of the iPhone could be addressed with the addition of an MMS app, iChat, a gaming platform, etc. Merely updating for bugs, interface tweaks and security would not count as substantial updates, so the fact remains that Apple has left the door open to boost the current iPhone a bit.

Imagine Apple alllowing the pre-hype to die down in a few weeks, look at the plateau of sales and then release a well tested update that addresses the major shortcomings of the iPhone. It would please current customers, make them more likely to be loyal to Apple, investors would love it as the stock price would more than liely benefit and it would spur new sales from those on the fence or those who must have those missing features.

As for everyone knowing someone in Apple. I assure you that if someone is in the 'know' at Apple, they are not risking their job, reputation and livlihood to speak of rumors and product plans. Having once worked with Apple, their NDA are intense. More so than some in the defense or biotech industry. They aggressively protect their IP and train their employees on the consequences of failing to protect it.

Apple also operates in a cell like fashion at the mid level. Each project group knows a small piece of the whole pie. They are given tasks on a need to know basis. At th ehigher level, managers may still be in the dark about the exact nature of the final project. It is only in the final months that it opens up and more is known. Look at the rumor history at the big rumor sites. For years they has dead on info months in advance. Now you can be lucky to get solid info 24 hours before MacWorld. Its not for lack of trying. Apple is super secret and has cracked down. I suspect they even manage rumors with controlled leaks to gage response from the media and public. I suspect that the initial iPhone leaks were intential all those years ago. But that is an entirely different thread.

My point is that its unlikely that anyone in a position to know the roadmap of the iPhone is opening their mouth at this junction. Anyone elses input whether a real friend at Apple or an imaginary one is pure specultation. We do know for certain, the iPhone WILL be updated. I can guess based on facts that I know that we will probably see a software update in October. Probably to take advantage of new OS X technologies to be introduced and hopefully .Mac enhancements. They may be bug/security fixes in the next few weeks. There may even be an announcement of a EU 3G device in the next 6 months. But its all guesses.

But posting in language more representative of a teen and boasting friends in high levels of Apple and at&t and declaring in CAPS that its not a rumor shoots your credibility to crap here at MacRumors. I know you have good intentions, and there is that ever so slight chance you are right and a slightly better chance you just guessed and will be right, but spreading non-fact as fact does a disservice to Apple, its shareholders, purchasers of the iPhone and the readers of this site.
 
They offered a ramped up version of AppleTV only a few months after launch. Who expected that to happen? I don't see why it's not possible for Apple to do this? Perhaps offering 2 options, Edge and AT&T's faster version. Maybe for extra cost. Maybe it'll have a removable battery also so we can keep extras on hand.

I wouldn't rule this out. No one can definitively say it'll be "2 years till ver. 2 comes out" of course.
 
What I don't get, is why it's "iPhone 2.0". Why would they call it "2.0" (suggesting more version 2 phones)?

Why, oh why don't people just call it "iPhone 2"..
 
What I don't get, is why it's "iPhone 2.0". Why would they call it "2.0" (suggesting more version 2 phones)?

Why, oh why don't people just call it "iPhone 2"..

who cares? he was just finding a way of describing a new phone.
 
This thread is dead. You've got two groups of people entrenched with absolutely no information to support either side. You either got people who just bought or are about to buy and don't want to see a new phone for 1+ years, and people who want the iPhone badly but find it lacking and wish a new one would come out next week.
 
Guys,
i think you are thinking with a lot of pre-assumptions. It reminds me of the speculations i read before the launch...when people where envisioning hourse of queues in the stores because each phone would have needed at least 10 mins to be activated, etc. Then reality proved to be...different.

1) While statistically unlikely, there would be nothing particulary strange in Apple releasing a more powerful version of the iPhone in the US even before this Fall. Maybe 12 gigs, to say one thing. People would be upset? Why on earth? You bought the phone now and you knew what you were going to get. You bought the piece of electronic, not the guarantee of having the latest piece of electronic for a given period of time. Same for Apple TV. I didnt buy it because the HD was too small. Who bought it made the decision that the device was fine for that price. Their call.
Ask yourself a simple question: if they told you that an upgraded iphone would be out in December, would you have waited another 6 months before buying the iphone? Would you have waited another 3 months?
They explained you what you were going to buy, you decided it was ok for the price, and you bought it. Now you have it: end of the story.
I find it quite incredible that so many are stuck in the mental trap that an iphone is...an iphone, and must only be an iphone.
If it helps, consider it as you consider an ipod: imagine we are in 1995, ipods and mp3 player do not exist, and suddenyl apple launches something called ipod which has 30 gigs, hold thousands of songs, and its something really revolutionary. thinking backwards, would it look strange to you that soon after a 60 gigs model appear, then a mini model, etc? I say 1995 because the technological breakthrough of the iphone is much more wide than when the ipods came out (2,000 something i think).
The iphone is not a product: it is a concept.

2) I live in Europe, and i am a bit desperate: because im not so sure at all that Apple will launch it here anytime soon. Sure, its statistically likely -simply because the business potential is huge-, but there are so many things that could mess this up. To name one, US is ONE country, ONE federal set of laws, ONE provider for exclusivity. Here you are talking about 10+ countries (with laws, with different leading providers, network status, user habits, etc.) .Apple's requirements are huge, and phone providers here in the end could even say "you know what? I dont really care about the million(s) customers you are offering to me. Simply because they are too expensive at the price you ask: ill get them in other ways".
They might end up in not releasing for a year, they could release it in only two countries, or they might not release it at all. Unfortunately, i dont see any type of guarantee that this will come out in Europe anytime soon.
3) Talking about upgrades that should not be released without "upsetting" early adopters: is your money more important than mine? Are Americans more important then European (or Asian, or whatever)? If you talk about customer satisfaction, the simple truth that -as of today- anyone living in US is lucky enough to have an iphone, the rest of the world does not get it. If and when it comes out in Europe, would you find it "morally" disappointing to find out that the Euro version is better? What is the price of having it months in advance? You know that Apple has this nice habit of pricing all of its stuff on 1:1 dollar to euro ratio? Up to us wether to decide being upset or not. Up to us wether to accept that probably we will get an iphone 6 months after the US launch at a higher price.
To me, Apple is a business company, and their job is to make money without breaking laws. They're not my mother, not my friend. They make a product, they offer to me at a price, and let me decide wether to buy it or not.

Vanni
 
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