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iPhone 3GS UK Discussion thread
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I agree with you, though I am coming at this from a different angle. There was similar outrage on the release of the 3g. I have a 1st gen and have been happy to hold on to it until my contract end (which is now) O2 have not offered people in my position any real incentive to upgrade or stay with them, they even want to lock me in for 2 years if I want (a now superceded) 3g iphone for free.
Exactly the same position I am in…
And as a result of their outrageous prices (I am not expecting things to be free, just realistic) I'll be sticking with my 1st gen… and changing my contract with O2.
I'll be going onto a £15 per month rolling contract with my 1st gen until they see sense. With the tap of 202 on my iphone
I will be reducing the money they take from me by over 50%.I would like the benefits of 3g and some of the new features on 3gs but i'm happy to keep my 1st gen and save £25 per month until the deal is a fair one for both 02 and myself.
That is all I ask A FAIR DEAL.
for someone who is neither an o2 customer or owner of an iPhone do you think buying the 3GS version is worth it? if you didn't have contract issues would you buy the new version?
i don't really know much about the iphone pricing and was wondering, since there is outrage from existing contract holders, for someone new, are o2 overpricing or is this what one expected for a new iPhone?
i don't really know much about the iphone pricing and was wondering, since there is outrage from existing contract holders, for someone new, are o2 overpricing or is this what one expected for a new iPhone?
Well, for those of us who bought the original, it seems a bit cheap!
Seriously though, it seems an 'ok' price depending on if the package suits your usage profile. The 24 month contract is too long for my liking though.
Totally. £73 per month and only 500 messages? Ridiculous. This is the only plan with a free iPhone 3GS 32GB too. Not that I would ever go on the poor excuse for a network that O2 is, but damn.
gosh 538.30 is alot. and i dont even use much of a phone... im on 02 unlimited 15 pounds a month which i seldom finish in a month anyway.
but ive been waiting to get this new iphone. ive never had a good phone in my life all mine are hand-me-downs. but i really love the iphone i always play with my friends ones. urgh. is there anyway that we could get discounts or does anybody predict a drop in prices in the next few months?
but ive been waiting to get this new iphone. ive never had a good phone in my life all mine are hand-me-downs. but i really love the iphone i always play with my friends ones. urgh. is there anyway that we could get discounts or does anybody predict a drop in prices in the next few months?
awe man, this really sucks. I had been saving to buy the iPhone (iTouch has a cracked screen and my mobile's buttons are broken!) and thought maybe i could get a pay as you go version as i don't really use the phone a lot, texting more so.
I don't think going on a contract would make sense for me at all. i'm currently with meteor and get free calls and texts to Meteor customers (most people I know are) for 20 euro a month which does me fine....sort of! i really wanted to get an iphone though.......
I don't think going on a contract would make sense for me at all. i'm currently with meteor and get free calls and texts to Meteor customers (most people I know are) for 20 euro a month which does me fine....sort of! i really wanted to get an iphone though.......
Ok, I have a current 16gb 3G which I got the week after it launches. It now has a very badly cracked screen....I was hoping there would be some sort of upgrade price for the 3GS but obviously not. I really need a new phone cus of my screen and 32gb would be so useful to me. Soooo, could I get the screen repaired (£170 i believe) then try and sell it on eBay for 350-450 and then whack my current contract sim into a pay & go 32gb 3GS?? do I have to pay the £10 a month bolt on thing for pay & go or can I opt out of that? That way I will have paid roughly 300 for the new phone which I was willing to do due to the screen crack! Thanks
Well, I went to the carphone warehouse store and they said that its 170 to fix it, I don't have an Apple store near me. But from what I understand accidental damage to the screen isn't covered in the warranty....could you link me to something saying how to fix the screen myself? Thanks
Maybe i'm missing something here but...
Why would O2 let you upgrade early at all? you signed a contract for 18 / 24 months, whatever and got a subsidised handset, that means you repay them over the life of the contract. (Legally Binding contract).
O2 should be under no obligation Just because it's a iPhone to let you upgrade early. If you want the latest, get another contract and buy out of your old one.
Why would O2 let you upgrade early at all? you signed a contract for 18 / 24 months, whatever and got a subsidised handset, that means you repay them over the life of the contract. (Legally Binding contract).
O2 should be under no obligation Just because it's a iPhone to let you upgrade early. If you want the latest, get another contract and buy out of your old one.
It's quite simple isn't it.
Most people are expecting an easy upgrade because of the situation last year moving from the 2G to the 3G. They forget the 2G wasn't subsidised.
Totally agree. There is a lot of negativity on here about this release. Like the N95 was an evolution of the N80 the iPhone 3G S is the same. There are not major differences between 3G and 3G S. Look forward to the 3.0 software which ALL iphones are getting, now when did Nokia or Samsung give you 2 major operating system changes FREE in the last 2 years? The only way to upgrade these phones significantly is to buy the latest model.
What people are forgetting is that we paid full price for the original iPhone. My 16GB was nearly £400 + a contract. When I 'upgraded it' to a 3G for my son I kept the iPhone 2G on PAYGO. I never expected the 3G S to be a free upgrade as it is a subsidized phone and we need to pay off the contract exactly as if we had got a Nokia or Samsung phone.
You always have the option of selling your 3G and buying a PAYGO 3G S but using your contract SIM. I see no reason why that would not work.
I will be getting an additional phone as a 3G S on a 2 year contract. I accept that for me the next gen of iPhone will not be available, so I skip one and get the iPhone 5th Generation instead - big deal.
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It's quite simple isn't it.
Most people are expecting an easy upgrade because of the situation last year moving from the 2G to the 3G. They forget the 2G wasn't subsidised.
Not all of us.
I'll happily pay to get out of my contract. However, O2 seem intent on not providing a clear upgrade path for users. AT&T have done it in the US.
The PAYG price seems inflated (to cover the 12 months free data maybe?) and the new customer price doesn't apply.
Congratulations O2, after five years of being a PAYG customer of Orange I'd decided to bite the bullet and go contract again just for the iPhone. The 3G S resolves my few remaining gripes about the hardware, the storage capacity is right for me and the apps store is starting to mature nicely. And then you go and do this crap...
Why is the UK paying MORE for these handsets than the US (yes, after VAT) when our mobile market is so very different and based around subsidised prices? Why are we being forced to pay £15 a month for tethering when we have 'unlimited' data on the bundle already (yes yes, I know, it's to stop abuse but no built in allowance)? How on earth do you justify raising the price of the 32Gb by almost £100 over the old range-topper?
This is insanity, plain and simple, and there's no way I'm picking one up with these prices. I'll stick with my nice PAYG Nokia and see what the iPod touch revision offers in September.
Why is the UK paying MORE for these handsets than the US (yes, after VAT) when our mobile market is so very different and based around subsidised prices? Why are we being forced to pay £15 a month for tethering when we have 'unlimited' data on the bundle already (yes yes, I know, it's to stop abuse but no built in allowance)? How on earth do you justify raising the price of the 32Gb by almost £100 over the old range-topper?
This is insanity, plain and simple, and there's no way I'm picking one up with these prices. I'll stick with my nice PAYG Nokia and see what the iPod touch revision offers in September.
there seems to be a lot of negativity towards people who are currently in the midst of an 18th month contract.
irrespective of contracts, pay as you go, or simplicity customers, these prices are not justified in the current economic problems.
it will have cost apple no more to produce the latest range of iphones and therefore that should not be reflected in the price.
The standard 8gb 3g has not even been reduced in price in the UK. which baffles me
irrespective of contracts, pay as you go, or simplicity customers, these prices are not justified in the current economic problems.
it will have cost apple no more to produce the latest range of iphones and therefore that should not be reflected in the price.
The standard 8gb 3g has not even been reduced in price in the UK. which baffles me
As it stands I'm going to miss out on the 3GS completely. My current contract doesn't finish until the end of June 2010. There is no way I'm buying myself out of my current contract to then have to hand over £185 for an 3GS and another 18 month contract. Hey, I may be lucky and Apple release the next iPhone in June next year.
However, don't get me started on the £15 a month for tethering. That is just taking the piss. Was hoping they would show a little bit of loyalty and allow tethering for free or at least a small monthly contribution.
However, don't get me started on the £15 a month for tethering. That is just taking the piss. Was hoping they would show a little bit of loyalty and allow tethering for free or at least a small monthly contribution.
Correct, but UK law states 5 years
Actually, it's 6
But only if you can prove it's a manufacturing defect.
Sorry, very little simpathy for those who think they should be able to upgrade early for less money. You agreed to an 18mth/24th contract and got a subsidised phone as a result.
You get out of it by paying the rest of the contract up front. Seems pretty clear to me.
Just have some patience - whats so wrong with your current iPhone 3G?
What I am surprised at is the at lack of reduction in price for the subsidy. Surely the 16gb should now come in at £99 for the low 18mth contracts - and the 8gb drop to £49 or even free.....
You get out of it by paying the rest of the contract up front. Seems pretty clear to me.
Just have some patience - whats so wrong with your current iPhone 3G?
What I am surprised at is the at lack of reduction in price for the subsidy. Surely the 16gb should now come in at £99 for the low 18mth contracts - and the 8gb drop to £49 or even free.....
FWIW here's my take on it.
Hardware:
As an 8Gb 2G iPhone owner this looks like a good upgrade with enough extra features to get me to jump (I could use the extra storage, for one thing). If I had a 3G (esp. a 16Gb) I'd be waiting: not sure why so many 3G owners on here are rushing to upgrade, as this is really only an incremental upgrade over the 3G in the same way as the 3G was really only an incremental upgrade over the 2G (I appreciate that one or other of the new features may be a "must-have" for some - in that case you'll need to decide if it's worth the cash). This is a similar pattern to that we've seen for years with iPods, where to be honest you'd be daft to upgrade every year for the sake of it.
A 2-yearly upgrade cycle looks about right for me: you get a decent increase in functionality over that time for your money. Yearly hardware updates in the summer seem to be the way it's going. If that is the case and one is going to skip a generation between upgrades, an 18mo contract doesn't really give you any benefit and the 2yr one saves some cash up front, so it may be the way to go.
Pricing:
Someone at O2 is smoking crack. Don't they realise that anyone who watches the WWDC announcements will know that Apple's intention was for the 3GS to come in at the same price points as the old 3G, with the old 3G as a new cheap alternative? The pricing for the handsets on the 18mo contracts (and for the tethering) smacks of corporate greed and IMHO devalues their brand. I suppose it's possible that the new hardware is costing them a lot more: I think that'll only become clear when the PAYG comes out and we can compare the prices of that to the 3G PAYG.
I'll probably still upgrade though, as on a 2yr contract (which suits me for the reasons above) the 32Gb 3GS is only slightly more than the old 16Gb.
Seems pretty clear on their website to me - same cost to upgrade as for a new customer. Not sure why that's not a "clear upgrade path"?
Hardware:
As an 8Gb 2G iPhone owner this looks like a good upgrade with enough extra features to get me to jump (I could use the extra storage, for one thing). If I had a 3G (esp. a 16Gb) I'd be waiting: not sure why so many 3G owners on here are rushing to upgrade, as this is really only an incremental upgrade over the 3G in the same way as the 3G was really only an incremental upgrade over the 2G (I appreciate that one or other of the new features may be a "must-have" for some - in that case you'll need to decide if it's worth the cash). This is a similar pattern to that we've seen for years with iPods, where to be honest you'd be daft to upgrade every year for the sake of it.
A 2-yearly upgrade cycle looks about right for me: you get a decent increase in functionality over that time for your money. Yearly hardware updates in the summer seem to be the way it's going. If that is the case and one is going to skip a generation between upgrades, an 18mo contract doesn't really give you any benefit and the 2yr one saves some cash up front, so it may be the way to go.
Pricing:
Someone at O2 is smoking crack. Don't they realise that anyone who watches the WWDC announcements will know that Apple's intention was for the 3GS to come in at the same price points as the old 3G, with the old 3G as a new cheap alternative? The pricing for the handsets on the 18mo contracts (and for the tethering) smacks of corporate greed and IMHO devalues their brand. I suppose it's possible that the new hardware is costing them a lot more: I think that'll only become clear when the PAYG comes out and we can compare the prices of that to the 3G PAYG.
I'll probably still upgrade though, as on a 2yr contract (which suits me for the reasons above) the 32Gb 3GS is only slightly more than the old 16Gb.
Seems pretty clear on their website to me - same cost to upgrade as for a new customer. Not sure why that's not a "clear upgrade path"?