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I was told on launch day last year that you can change your tariff after 9 months, so I'll be swapping to the lowest tariff and then paying up ;)

on the o2 website it says that the lowest 3g tariff is now £30

which means that you will have to pay £240 to buy out your contract! then pay another £274 to get the 32gb 3gs!


thats a lot of money! might as well keep your 3g and get the 3gs on payg
 
Earlier Apple has the new 13" MBP as £1,299 instead of £899 and the 15" and 17" £200 more than they should have been... (therefore the 13" MBP is $1,199 in US and £1,299 in UK... more in dollars than pounds

Soo maybe o2 and AT&T messed up the pricing today.... i dont really know (unlikely) but possible

The base model 13" MBP is £899 on the UK Apple Store. :confused:
 
To be honest I was pretty much expecting that we wouldn't be able to upgrade early with no penalty like last year due to the whole subsidy versus no subsidy thing, but what I am shocked about is the price of the new model for new contracts.

For customers last year taking up the £30 or £35 18 month contract, the 8GB model cost £99 and the 16GB model £159. This time around the same contract gets you the 16GB model for £184.98 and the 32GB model for £274.23!!! What the hell? The 16GB model is now even more expensive than it was before, and the 32GB model is almost £100 more again - despite memory prices being cheaper than ever?!

I am struggling to see how they can justify the pricing of this new model - especially when the US prices for the iPhone 3Gs appear to correspond to last year's iPhone 3G prices.
 
on the o2 website it says that the lowest 3g tariff is now £30

which means that you will have to pay £240 to buy out your contract! then pay another £274 to get the 32gb 3gs!


thats a lot of money! might as well keep your 3g and get the 3gs on payg

True, but I think I should be OK then to upgrade to the 32GB on the £44 /mth tariff for £175. I'm currently on the £44 tariff.
 
…what I am shocked about is the price of the new model for new contracts.

For customers last year taking up the £30 or £35 18 month contract, the 8GB model cost £59 and the 16GB model £159. This time around the same contract gets you the 16GB model for £184.98 and the 32GB model for £274.23!!! What the hell? The 16GB model is now even more expensive than it was before, and the 32GB model is almost £100 more again - despite memory prices being cheaper than ever?!

I am struggling to see how they can justify the pricing of this new model - especially when the US prices for the iPhone 3Gs appear to correspond to last year's iPhone 3G prices.

I can't believe they've priced it like this. I decided that I'd upgrade (currently have a first gen iPhone) if the new iPhone had the features rumoured. It does, so I was going to… and then they did this.

Bearing it mind that while it was a good deal it was far from cheap in the first place, jumping from £159 to £274? Screw that, they can keep it! The early adopters can't upgrade without paying stupidly high ETFs and the newcomers like myself are going to balk at these ridiculous prices, so the big launch could well be a damp squib.
 
Bearing it mind that while it was a good deal it was far from cheap in the first place, jumping from £159 to £274? Screw that, they can keep it! The early adopters can't upgrade without paying stupidly high ETFs and the newcomers like myself are going to balk at these ridiculous prices, so the big launch could well be a damp squib.

Dont worry about it im in the same boat as you...but honestly nobody at o2 of ATT knows the prices or terms of this upgrading malarkey
 
If its anything like the american deal i will just keep my 3G until next years one is released and get it.
My feelings exactly.

This '3GS' has stopgap written all over it, and unless O2 change their minds and offer a similar subsidised upgrade deal like they did last summer, then I'll be quite happy with my 16GB white 3G with a 3.0 SU for another 9-12 months.
 
I Really want The 3GS, it looks awesome, speeds are supposed to be significantly better, camera, video, more storage.

Gonna put my now *RARE* iPhone 3G 16Gb on Ebay for Buy it Now only, something crazy like £450, if a sucker bites, 3GS Here i come.... :D
 
The 8GB model cost £99 on the £30 and £35 contracts.
Quite right - I misremembered. I'd thought there had been a £100 difference when it was actually just £60 - thanks for correcting me. Still doesn't change how insane the 3G S prices are though - do Apple/O2 not know there's a recession on?
 
Quite right - I misremembered. I'd thought there had been a £100 difference when it was actually just £60 - thanks for correcting me. Still doesn't change how insane the 3G S prices are though - do Apple/O2 not know there's a recession on?

+1

I am just hoping that £440 price comes down!!!!!!
 
..... the big launch could well be a damp squib.

Wouldn't surprise me at all - I won't be queuing this time for sure.

I foresee a review of pricing before the year is out. Remember how O2 doubled the call allowance with the original iPhone when that failed to take off?

O2 are greedy bug*ers who are just trying to charge as much as they think that they can get away with!

Lets teach them a lesson! They need reminding that money is scarce these days and that the emphasis has to be on value for money.
 
The main reason to me why the upgrade price is crazy is because you won't actually be using any of the minutes/texts/data for whatever months you had left. The fee should be based purely on how much subsidy is left.

If we take the 8GB as £350 (the PAYG price) and the total contract is 45 * 18 = £810 (to get the 8GB 3G free last year)

£810 Total
£350 "subsidy"
£460 for data/calls

So £350 / 18 months = a subsidy cost of £20 a month. It should be £20 * how many months you have left.

Or is this being unreasonable? If O2 took this approach they would not lose money on early upgrades and would have customers signed up for another 18 months.
 
Wouldn't surprise me at all - I won't be queuing this time for sure.

I foresee a review of pricing before the year is out. Remember how O2 doubled the call allowance with the original iPhone when that failed to take off?

O2 are greedy bug*ers who are just trying to charge as much as they think that they can get away with!

Lets teach them a lesson! They need reminding that money is scarce these days and that the emphasis has to be on value for money.

My original plan was to wait until December and upgrade without any penalty.

I'm now thinking about letting my contract end, going on to Simplicity and upgrading to whatever new model they announce this time next year.
 
Gonna ring O2 tomorrow, see what the deal on Ending early is, it cant really be Months Left X Monthly Cost as why would anyone cancel? Still, think im gonna get it on PayG, and see how much i get for my 3G.
 
People... this might sound crazy a friend from San Francisco just told me they updated the iPhone! (click it better quality)
 

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My original plan was to wait until December and upgrade without any penalty.

I'm now thinking about letting my contract end, going on to Simplicity and upgrading to whatever new model they announce this time next year.

I'm thinking the same, otherwise I may be in a worse position this time next year: A 6-month old 'obsolete' iPhone with 12 months of contract remaining.

The 3G and 3GS are identical in appearance. I'd be very surprised if the next model isn't re-designed to keep up with the times.
 
£185 (or £88) for the 16Gb seems 'ok' value to me - less than £30 more than the 3G upgrade price was for a better phone.

I'll be upgrading my 2G :)
 
9 pages of discussion already here indicate there's already a buzz about this 'new' product. Regardless of 02's brand new customers only positioning this phone will sell - whether it racks up the number of units in their business plan is another matter.

They need to make money on this deal and I can't see how letting me out of my contract seven months early will help their financial position.
I agree they could look more favourably if you are committing to another 18 / 24 month contract but they dont have to and the hissy fits just make it more amusing for the more grounded people to help pass the time.

Get over it. It's a phone. You might not have a job in a few weeks and then you'll have something to cry over
 
Im 90% sure the warrenty lasts on your iphone until your contract ends. thats what the guy at my local Apple store told me.

EU law now states that goods sold in Europe should generally be repaired or replaced if they fail within two years, irrespective of what the manufacturer claims about warranties being limited to one year.
 
..and MMS when you're on an unlimited text bundle?

I'm on business super user - so does this mean i get MMS free too?
 
This launch is just going to go down the drain, id love to upgrade, BUT now the prices for an 18 month contract are ridiculous, AND id like to go down to the £35 a month contract, because i dont even use the 1200 minutes.
 
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