Phones iPhone 4S vs Galaxy S3

[chris2k5]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsF02hBBK_I&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Just look how fast JB will be in the SGS3. Seems even faster than the Galaxy Nexus plus having a bigger screen and better camera and all.

And... it looks a lot more faster than iOS (in the web browser, opening folders, moving through the app drawer, etc).

Who says know iOS is still faster and smoother?

I agree that Jelly Bean kicks ass. I've been playing with it for a week now and it is pretty amazing.

What sucks is the installation. It took me 10 hours to get the Galaxy Nexus bootloader to unlock. Then I had to root it. Then I had to flash the Jelly Bean ROM. In the middle of the process I semi-bricked my Galaxy Nexus too.

 

[Zaft]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsF02hBBK_I&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Just look how fast JB will be in the SGS3. Seems even faster than the Galaxy Nexus plus having a bigger screen and better camera and all.

And... it looks a lot more faster than iOS (in the web browser, opening folders, moving through the app drawer, etc).

Who says know iOS is still faster and smoother?

I would say it it's as fast as ios now. I don't know how you can honestly say alone more faster then IOS.

 

[batting1000]

I agree that Jelly Bean kicks ass. I've been playing with it for a week now and it is pretty amazing.

What sucks is the installation. It took me 10 hours to get the Galaxy Nexus bootloader to unlock. Then I had to root it. Then I had to flash the Jelly Bean ROM. In the middle of the process I semi-bricked my Galaxy Nexus too.

Sounds like too much to get the latest update. Didn't the OTA come out this past week?

 

[chris2k5]

Sounds like too much to get the latest update. Didn't the OTA come out this past week?

Only for GSM. They left CDMA/LTE users out in the dust to do it manually.

I was so used to iPhone and iOS and I thought the restore was so EASY...But with Android if you do one thing wrong you are so screwed. Expect hours of research and downloading countless apps and files to get a fix.

 

[depths]

I agree that Jelly Bean kicks ass. I've been playing with it for a week now and it is pretty amazing.

What sucks is the installation. It took me 10 hours to get the Galaxy Nexus bootloader to unlock. Then I had to root it. Then I had to flash the Jelly Bean ROM. In the middle of the process I semi-bricked my Galaxy Nexus too.

Man you ****ed up.

OSX or Windows?

I don't think you can brick a Nexus, if you can I've not heard of it happening.

 

[batting1000]

Only for GSM. They left CDMA/LTE users out in the dust to do it manually.

I was so used to iPhone and iOS and I thought the restore was so EASY...But with Android if you do one thing wrong you are so screwed. Expect hours of research and downloading countless apps and files to get a fix.

That's why consistent updates are important for Android and why manufacturers should possess a bit more urgency with their updates. A majority of consumers don't want to tinker with their device to get the latest updates, especially if there is a risk of bricking it.

 

[chris2k5]

Man you ****ed up. I had the SDK and fastboot set up in under half an hour, it was painless.

OSX or Windows?

I don't think you can brick a Nexus, if you can I've not heard of it happening.

You probably had a lot more experience before?
This was my first time so I can imagine what other noobies are going through.
I was using OSX and it turns out a lot of the programs and files aren't made for OSX so I had to get on a Windows PC to do it.

It was a pain getting the SDK recognition and fast boot at the same time.

 

[nooaah]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsF02hBBK_I&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Just look how fast JB will be in the SGS3. Seems even faster than the Galaxy Nexus plus having a bigger screen and better camera and all.

And... it looks a lot more faster than iOS (in the web browser, opening folders, moving through the app drawer, etc).

Who says know iOS is still faster and smoother?

They're about the same.

 

[Mac.World]

Only for GSM. They left CDMA/LTE users out in the dust to do it manually.

I was so used to iPhone and iOS and I thought the restore was so EASY...But with Android if you do one thing wrong you are so screwed. Expect hours of research and downloading countless apps and files to get a fix.

It's extremely difficult to brick a phone. People use that word too much and it has lost its true meaning. And there are 3 websites (xda, androidcentral and androidforums) that I know of that tell you step by step how to restore any Android phone. Even a caveman could follow these directions. don't know why you needed hours of esearch and downloading countless apps?

I restored an S2 from 4.0.4 back to 2.3.5 and it takes about 30 seconds (barring the time it takes to download a stock .tar file and Odin 1.85 or 3.04, depending on the phone.) Easier and faster than unjailbreaking an iPhone.

By the way, using a Mac to do anything with Android blows. There is a reason Odin is a .exe file.

 

[Sensamic]

I would say it it's as fast as ios now. I don't know how you can honestly say alone more faster then IOS.

Because I've had an iPhone 4 and an iPad for over 2 years and I know just how fast the transitions are. I haven't tried JB so I'm talking about what I see on that video and to me it looks like the overall transitions are faster and smoother. I think anyone can see that on the video. I still have my iPad and looking at the transitions and speed when opening apps or scrolling in the web browser seems to take a little bit longer than JB on that video.

It even looks a lot more faster and smooth than my current ICS SGS3.

We have to admit that it definitely looks more faster than iOS. And it's only an alpha ROM...

 

[batting1000]

That's not really an issue though is it?

They both update at essentially the same rate, does it matter if the update is released with a new model or at an event like I/O?

Not trying to start an argument but I think with their Nexus devices Google is doing well with updates.

Hopefully as the line grows people will be able to find a Nexus to suit their needs. The Galaxy Nexus is great but there's a few things that could be improved as Technarchy likes to point out. S3 specs with pure 4.1 would be amazing.

The mess with other carrier phones is a different story and deserves every bit of criticism it gets. Even the Verison Nexus got screwed.

Yes. I agree. That's a big issue that CDMA / carrier Nexuses need to have worked on. At the end of the day, it's still a Nexus and deserves the latest updates and support from Google, especially because unlocked devices can't be used on CDMA carriers.

 

[nooaah]

I just wish VZW would unlock the damn bootloader.

 

[depths]

You probably had a lot more experience before?
This was my first time so I can imagine what other noobies are going through.
I was using OSX and it turns out a lot of the programs and files aren't made for OSX so I had to get on a Windows PC to do it.

It was a pain getting the SDK recognition and fast boot at the same time.

No it was my first time but I used Windows. OSX can be a pain the arse sometimes, I don't even try to use my macbook pro for that stuff.

 

[Bobby Corwen]

S3 is still choppy compared to 4s. There have been multiple threads on why this os is choppy compared to ios. That's a deal breaker for me.

All you have to do is slide the screen up and down while holding a finger on the screen. The embarrassing (c'mon it's 2012!!!!!) lag is still there lol.

 

[Mac.World]

They're about the same.

Concur. Anyone saying JB is faster than iOS or vice versa when switching between pages, opening the app drawer or apps would literally need a $50,000 high speed video camera to measure the difference in pico-seconds!

Web browsing speeds have more to do with connection speed, pre-rendering capability, javascript performance and software/hardware optimization. Different web browsers will operate faster or slower on the same phone, much less a different piece of hardware. It also doesn't help that Apple won't release the nitro engine api to 3rd party browsers like Atomic!

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All you have to do is slide the screen up and down while holding a finger on the screen. The embarrassing (c'mon it's 2012!!!!!) lag is still there lol.

This is completely inaccurate information at least when referencing phones like the HOX, Nexus, S2, S3, And Note. Maybe if you got some cheap pay and go free phone that has crappy hardware and running an outdated OS like Froyo or Eclair, I can understand.

But I have noticed all of your posts are very biased and full of misinformation.

 

[Sensamic]

All you have to do is slide the screen up and down while holding a finger on the screen. The embarrassing (c'mon it's 2012!!!!!) lag is still there lol.

You are embarrassing yourself once again man. You should stop lying and giving false information.

JB is actually faster than iOS. It's getting really tired reading your posts...

Dear God...

 

[depths]

I have noticed all of your posts are very biased and full of misinformation.

I agree.

 

[Sensamic]

iOS is still better.

This harsh reminder will certainly appear once SIII owners start the waiting game for JB, and wont see Key Lime at all unless they buy an S4.

You can bet I will get Key Lime Pie on my SGS3 thanks to CM11.

Even the SGS1 and SGS2 are getting JB with CM10, so imagine the SGS3 how far will it go with its powerful hardware.

And it will be stock Key Lime Pie. And it will be the full Android OS, not missing key new features like in iOS...

 

[Bobby Corwen]

This is completely inaccurate information at least when referencing phones like the HOX, Nexus, S2, S3, And Note. Maybe if you got some cheap pay and go free phone that has crappy hardware and running an outdated OS like Froyo or Eclair, I can understand.

But I have noticed all of your posts are very biased and full of misinformation.

No you just don't get it. You're the one that is biased.

 

[depths]

Mac.World has mentioned a few times that he uses both IOS and Android and doesn't come across as someone who is biased to me.

You on the other hand use flowery words like magical and elegant to describe the iPhone and trash Android every chance you get.

 

[chris2k5]

It's extremely difficult to brick a phone. People use that word too much and it has lost its true meaning. And there are 3 websites (xda, androidcentral and androidforums) that I know of that tell you step by step how to restore any Android phone. Even a caveman could follow these directions. don't know why you needed hours of esearch and downloading countless apps?

I restored an S2 from 4.0.4 back to 2.3.5 and it takes about 30 seconds (barring the time it takes to download a stock .tar file and Odin 1.85 or 3.04, depending on the phone.) Easier and faster than unjailbreaking an iPhone.

By the way, using a Mac to do anything with Android blows. There is a reason Odin is a .exe file.

Good for you. Want a cookie?

 

[MonkeySee....]

voice recognition is way better. The tie in with google is much better too and faster than siri

Siri understands 99.9% of what I say. Why is the tie in with google better? Siri uses Wolfram Alpha really well. Gets info on Movies and Sports very well and also interacts well when scheduling appointments and setting reminders etc.

Have you actually used Siri?

 

[daveathall]

I think that my S3 and iPhone 4S are very similar in the performance stakes, neither IMHO is the winner, speed wise I can't tell the difference, as for updates my experience favours the iOS system, for the design and build quality however, they are, IMHO on a par with each other, if one were to enlarge an iPhone 3GS, one would probably find it difficult to distinguish between it and the SGS3. For my use however, the screen and particularly the size make it my first choice.

To sum up, both are superb phones worthy of any pocket, the SGS3 IMHO just shades it in being a bit more modern feeling (To me at least) and has a larger screen. I expect the new iPhone to raise the bar again, and why not? It is good that Apple have now got some competition. It makes it better for us.

 

[mattopotamus]

Siri understands 99.9% of what I say. Why is the tie in with google better? Siri uses Wolfram Alpha really well. Gets info on Movies and Sports very well and also interacts well when scheduling appointments and setting reminders etc.

Have you actually used Siri?

siri doesn't understand a lot of things i ask it and resorts to web searches...it doesn't pick up my voice good at all. Also, if it is not dealing with numbers (wolfram) then it is really slow. I would say something that takes siri 8 or 9 seconds takes google now about 3 seconds. Imagine wolfram Alpha but with a much bigger variety since it pulls its information from google. The speed of alpha, but for 90% of your questions. Siri was excellent of setting reminders and number questions, but most of the time it used google anyways...so google's voice will obviously do it better. I haven't tried beta IOS so that may make siri better. Oh and i would say 9/10 text i sent using siri had to be corrected by hand

 

[BaldiMac]

Personally, I don't view it as a cop out. If you want to compare Google's updating of their OS to Apple's, it stands to reason that you would compare their official devices. Apple launches one new official iPhone a year. Google launches one new official Nexus Phone a year.

You shifted the goalposts. I wasn't comparing "Google's updating of their OS to Apple's". I was comparing Android as a whole to iOS.

I realize this is an SGS3 thread. I also realize that if a phone doesn't launch with stock Android, it won't be getting an update quickly, if at all. It always baffles my mind when people buy a device without stock Android knowingly and then complain when an update doesn't hit. That's like me complaining that iOS won't let me change my keyboard. It's just not happening.

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect reasonable updates from the various Android distributors. The problems with the Android business model are actually problems, not excuses. Google keeps the development of the open source OS closed until it's "ready". That's why there are update problems.