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iPhone 5 design + iOS6 features = More iPhone users leaving than ever before
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Think of it like the recent Samsung-Apple trial. Would you rather have a jury of laymen or would you rather have a jury of patent experts?
Yes, these polls don't represent the nationwide opinions out there, but who cares about them? This is a tech enthusiast site. We don't give a crap what non-tech literate people think.
They will be still the Gold Standard for apps. Lot's of companies deliver stronger hardware than Apple but few can marry the hardware and software together so adeptly.
I only wish we had enough sway to matter but in the end the most pocketbooks are connected to the laymen and not the experts.
http://9to5mac.com/2012/09/17/apple-announces-iphone-5-preorders-hit-two-million-in-24-hours/
"OP, I think you're wrong. You truly underestimate the herd. Imagine thousands, if not millions of Bobby Corwens out there just waiting for the next iPhone." - Me.
"OP, I think you're wrong. You truly underestimate the herd. Imagine thousands, if not millions of Bobby Corwens out there just waiting for the next iPhone." - Me.
Sorry to bust your bubble but JB is major release. Nexus phone and Nexus 7 tablets have been advertised fully with JB.
You make it sound like a bad thing. Most all of that is predictable.
Users will complain about it being a minor release no matter what is released.
More people will leave and go to android mostly because there are so many more people getting and using smartphones. The percentage will likely stay the same.
Despite the some obvious statements, I think the iPhone 5 is a major update, iOS 6 a good update. iOS has advantages over android that will continue to become apparent over time as the android ecosystem continues to fragment and have issues with malware. iPhone 5 will at least for a time, be the most successful phone launch in history.
Google meanwhile has problems. Android branches that have nothing to do with google, china versions, amazons kindle. iOS maps moving off google cutting down their revenue.
Continued litigation as vendors realize they have copied too much of what apple has done. Vendors will give increasing focus on windows because of better IP clarity.
Windows will likely fail because it has no app base and is just plain bad.
In general, I think the smartphone market is maturing. We won't see any more dramatic changes although folks will claim that whatever minor new features are dramatic.
You also don't give a crap what statisticians (or anybody mildly acquainted with statistics) thinks either, since you're actually citing MR polls as evidence of something. They are literally as useful as random lottery numbers.
EDIT: Actually, they are useful for one thing: Anybody who seriously cites them can be disregarded without hesitation. Cue "Well, they might not be perfect, but they tell us something". That's also an indicator that the poster doesn't understand statistics and can be blocked, mocked, or ignored without any problem whatsoever.
Those predictions were silly to begin with: "Some people will not buy the iPhone 5 and they'll complain about it. Some of the people who will buy it will buy it for reasons I disapprove of. Heh, iSheep." Just another day on MacRumors.
There was little doubt the iphone would sell out the first day, simple because they were gonna run out. We knew they only had 2 to 3 million on hand, because Sharp couldn't produce the displays correctly and only now began shipping them. Because of this, I anticipate a lot of screen issues.
This has nothing to do with what I posted. Let me recap the handful of lines I typed: the OP made some silly 'predictions' and cited some useless polls in defense of them, neither of which is surprising, given the source. Your FUD and excuses are irrelevant to that; I'm not sure how to make it any more clear.
This is one reason why I didn't jump on the iPhone 4 when it first came out. I hope there's no issues with the 5, but the 4 had plenty initially and the 5, again, has a new screen technology.
Even though JB wasnt advertised as a major release, it IS a major upgrade. For me, the one complain I had with android was the "jitter". I am running a half baked JB (cm10 nightlies) on my GS3 and can say that the jitter is GONE!
Everything feels so refined to me, and cm10 is STILL cranking up performance and "butter". Android looks and feels like iOS but with eye candy!
My only gripe now is the huge gap in build quality. The iPhone 5 looks silly, but the build quality is awsome. My GS3 is built better than people imagine, but nothing compares to high tolerance machining.
So what if my gs3 has trouble syncing music from iTunes? I can drag and drop music and the music players automagically sort it all for me (as long as I use legit music sources).
The iphone wont do bad because people dont buy it for anything but the build quality and prestige. The dudes here that buy it do it for better reasons, but the millions dont.
Matt
Everything feels so refined to me, and cm10 is STILL cranking up performance and "butter". Android looks and feels like iOS but with eye candy!
My only gripe now is the huge gap in build quality. The iPhone 5 looks silly, but the build quality is awsome. My GS3 is built better than people imagine, but nothing compares to high tolerance machining.
So what if my gs3 has trouble syncing music from iTunes? I can drag and drop music and the music players automagically sort it all for me (as long as I use legit music sources).
The iphone wont do bad because people dont buy it for anything but the build quality and prestige. The dudes here that buy it do it for better reasons, but the millions dont.
Matt
This is expected. We all knew that Apple was going to announce a ridiculous number of phones sold. Apple always sells like hotcakes in this manner. As I said in the OP, we're waiting to see what the end of Q1 2013 says.
Seriously, people haven't even got the phone in their hands yet. It's a bit early to call my predictions premature.
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That doesn't mean anything. 4.1 is still a x.1 release. Nothing changes that. If you think Jelly Bean is a major release, you don't know what "major release" even means.
This is expected. We all knew that Apple was going to announce a ridiculous number of phones sold. Apple always sells like hotcakes in this manner. As I said in the OP, we're waiting to see what the end of Q1 2013 says.
Seriously, people haven't even got the phone in their hands yet. It's a bit early to call my predictions premature.
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That doesn't mean anything. 4.1 is still a x.1 release. Nothing changes that. If you think Jelly Bean is a major release, you don't know what "major release" even means.
Considering its now the most pre ordered iphone your prediction will most likely be false...
Interesting...but your predictions are severely flawed
1. Poll count on Macrumors is a horrible estimate of general public use.
2. 2 million iPhones 5 were preordered in 24 hours. Thats a new record...and remember last year when people said the iPhone 4S wasn't going to sell but it broke new records?
3. Although iOS 6 wasn't as big as iOS 4 or iOS 5...those tech blogs that had unrealistic expectations shouldn't be counted. Plus, at least so far, all the previews I've read about the iPhone 5 and iOS 6 have been highly positive.
4. In regard to Apple vs Samsung. The court case is quite big in the tech world...but ordinary people don't know it/barely know it. They just know someone big is suing something big. I don't see Apple's image being damage or even if it is, I expect Samsung's image to be damaged a lot worse.
5. Android and Windows marketshare increase is expected (particularly Android because they have 100s of devices compared to 1). That being said when you talk about mobile OS...your forgetting tablets. And Apple is clearly dominating at the tablet market with the iPad now at 68%.
1. Poll count on Macrumors is a horrible estimate of general public use.
2. 2 million iPhones 5 were preordered in 24 hours. Thats a new record...and remember last year when people said the iPhone 4S wasn't going to sell but it broke new records?
3. Although iOS 6 wasn't as big as iOS 4 or iOS 5...those tech blogs that had unrealistic expectations shouldn't be counted. Plus, at least so far, all the previews I've read about the iPhone 5 and iOS 6 have been highly positive.
4. In regard to Apple vs Samsung. The court case is quite big in the tech world...but ordinary people don't know it/barely know it. They just know someone big is suing something big. I don't see Apple's image being damage or even if it is, I expect Samsung's image to be damaged a lot worse.
5. Android and Windows marketshare increase is expected (particularly Android because they have 100s of devices compared to 1). That being said when you talk about mobile OS...your forgetting tablets. And Apple is clearly dominating at the tablet market with the iPad now at 68%.
I think people will buy it for the same reason they vote for the...
Effective marketing will do that. Apple almost don't have to do anything and their products will sell themselves
No it isnt, its an extension of ICS 4.04....thus JB being 4.1.1. Those Nexus devices are advertised with JB because that is the latest software and the Nexus line gets the latest first.
The biggest deal with Jellybean is that it'll add a Siri-like voice assistant.
Other than that, it's mainly a bunch of software tweaks to make the screens scroll more smoothly, etc.
It's not a major upgrade.
Other than that, it's mainly a bunch of software tweaks to make the screens scroll more smoothly, etc.
It's not a major upgrade.
"...over 48% of Macrumors users are disappointed with the featureset."
Where did you take a statistics class? i think you will find that of the 1500 odd votes you managed to get, this is no where near a significant sample size of the macrumours population. The macrumours community is also no where near large enough to make a statistically significant argument based on the results you have.
Where did you take a statistics class? i think you will find that of the 1500 odd votes you managed to get, this is no where near a significant sample size of the macrumours population. The macrumours community is also no where near large enough to make a statistically significant argument based on the results you have.
Preorders have no bearing on who leaves the iPhone. Financial results and other data count.
While this community is NOT representative of the general population, its still a pretty significant chunk of the general public. The more informed consumers, no less.
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