I doubt the amount of people leaving the iPhone for another device will make a notable dent for Apple to worry.
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iPhone 5 design + iOS6 features = More iPhone users leaving than ever before
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It's still not something that can be ignored.
My predictions speak as to the number of iPhone users who will leave the iPhone. There's many other factors to consider when you talk about preorder sales. The iPhone began with only AT&T as its carrier, and even now, the iPhone isn't on T-Mobile but is being offered on other smaller carriers. etc. There's many, many people who had yet to be able to purchase an iPhone, and this will continue into next year as well, where the record will probably be 2.5 million people buying the iPhone...simply due to the fact that that every year, the iPhone is available to more people on more carriers.
Previews, not reviews.
Most people don't have the scummy lawyer mentality. Most people would buy a knockoff just to save money. They don't give a crap about what Samsung copied. If anything, most people are likely to see Apple as being greedy while only the fanboys will care that Samsung copied them.
We're strictly talking smartphones. Tablets are not really as big a market as Apple says it is. Even where I live, a short drive to Cupertino, I don't see that many tablets.
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Well I'm. hTC One X owner. Also owned Galaxy S2, Galaxy Nexus and HTC Sensation XE.
I'm going back to the iPhone 5
Android open sourced argument is well over played. Yes you can customise the Rom so your device performs better and doesn't lag or hitch as is often the case. The point being missed is that your flagship device should have performed better anyway,
Customisation is likewise well over played. Yay I can choose a launcher. And....? Most are essentially the same, Nova & Apex leading way for ICS, Go for gingerbread and all that happens is that people use these and then once more the devices all start to look the same. Plus there's generally extra memory overhead, which leads to reduced performance or extra battery drain from poorly programmed widgets...
Then you have the horrendous rollout of updates which are dragged out first by the manufacturer (if your phone is unbranded) and then further by carriers... Waiting 4 months for an essential update is alway so so much fun.
Android has made me OCD in regards to memory management, something I never worried about in iOS despite my iOS devices having less memory than my android devices.
Then there is often the BS about multi-tasking is better on Android as its true multitasking. Well sorry but my flagship One X multitasks pretty much the EXACT same way as iOS so that's a total non argument there..
Add all other issues on my One X, stuttering audio on music player requiring a restart, terrible problems with connecting to Bluetooth devices such as car stereos for music / media playback (not phone calls). The fact the Phone gets hotter than my new iPad, or the long time issue with ALL android handsets I've owned being utterly inconsistent battery life.
One day 17 hours, next day 8 hours despite no real change in phone usage.
Then there are continuing issues with Google Play Store, with persistence issue of such fragmented hardware, decent app selection is less than on iTunes. Still no Nova 3 for my device, and performance of games that aren't THD can be very poor despite the big specs of my handset...
Sorry but I'm sick of Android, sick of the BS illusion of Open Source, and sick of inconsitancy in user experience...
Come give me a hug iPhone 5....
I'm going back to the iPhone 5
Android open sourced argument is well over played. Yes you can customise the Rom so your device performs better and doesn't lag or hitch as is often the case. The point being missed is that your flagship device should have performed better anyway,
Customisation is likewise well over played. Yay I can choose a launcher. And....? Most are essentially the same, Nova & Apex leading way for ICS, Go for gingerbread and all that happens is that people use these and then once more the devices all start to look the same. Plus there's generally extra memory overhead, which leads to reduced performance or extra battery drain from poorly programmed widgets...
Then you have the horrendous rollout of updates which are dragged out first by the manufacturer (if your phone is unbranded) and then further by carriers... Waiting 4 months for an essential update is alway so so much fun.
Android has made me OCD in regards to memory management, something I never worried about in iOS despite my iOS devices having less memory than my android devices.
Then there is often the BS about multi-tasking is better on Android as its true multitasking. Well sorry but my flagship One X multitasks pretty much the EXACT same way as iOS so that's a total non argument there..
Add all other issues on my One X, stuttering audio on music player requiring a restart, terrible problems with connecting to Bluetooth devices such as car stereos for music / media playback (not phone calls). The fact the Phone gets hotter than my new iPad, or the long time issue with ALL android handsets I've owned being utterly inconsistent battery life.
One day 17 hours, next day 8 hours despite no real change in phone usage.
Then there are continuing issues with Google Play Store, with persistence issue of such fragmented hardware, decent app selection is less than on iTunes. Still no Nova 3 for my device, and performance of games that aren't THD can be very poor despite the big specs of my handset...
Sorry but I'm sick of Android, sick of the BS illusion of Open Source, and sick of inconsitancy in user experience...
Come give me a hug iPhone 5....
No.
No. MacRumors has about 700.000 forum members worldwide.
Records regarding Apple, not regarding the industry. That's a little difference.
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iPhone and progressive in one post. ROTFLMAO
At least Google recognizes this. Hence the change from Android 4.0 to 4.1, not 4.0 to 5.0.
That is the most foolish thing I've seen posted on these forums, and I've seen some pretty ridiculous stuff.
Apple is fine. In a couple of years, when Apple is still raking in the lion's share of profits in the smartphone sector you might finally realise why it is so. By that time it should be obvious to most people the deep trouble Google is in.
Tablets aren't that big yet. Sorry, but its true.
Yes because profits that a company makes are what we should be concerned about here on these end-user forums rather than the value and utility of the products a company produces.
A release can't be major simply due to timing. Rather, it is by the added featureset and number of bugfixes.
Listen, just give up already. Nobody, not even the most hardened fanboy, will agree with you that Jelly Bean is a major release. All you are doing is proving to us how deep your bias goes with this denial of reality.
This will likely be the only Android release this year, and it's just as minor as iOS6, maybe more so even.
So enjoy your platform that only gets "major" updates every other year.
Yes, I don't see a 5.0 on that release so it doesn't really worry me. If I saw a 5.0 on Jelly Bean along with some shill prancing about on stage talking about how this was a major release of Android I'd be worried.
Android is already far, far ahead on the features front whereas iOS will be debuting "attach pictures and video to email from within the email app" in a couple of days to every iOS user with iOS6's stable release...
So yeah, not really worried about Android's release schedule.
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Calidude, you are way too prissy about this iOS 6 naming question. Even with Jelly Bean.
Just use the software and move on already, OK?
Yes, I don't see a 5.0 on that release so it doesn't really worry me. If I saw a 5.0 on Jelly Bean along with some shill prancing about on stage talking about how this was a major release of Android I'd be worried.
Android is already far, far ahead on the features front whereas iOS will be debuting "attach pictures and video to email" in a couple of days to every iOS user with iOS6's stable release...
So yeah, not really worried about Android's release schedule.
You could always attach photos and videos, they just changed how you do it. Stop trying to spin the facts. And all I know is that Jellybean is a rather measly update with scant innovation, and Android won't be seeing another update for the next several months. Google is definitely moving at a slower pace than before.
I'm sorry, but iOS6 is the most non-major major release of a software I've ever seen on the iPhone. Many, many, many people will agree. It's hardly being denied at this point.
Why don't you chide zbarvian on his denial of reality instead of chiding me for merely correcting him with the truth about Jelly Bean being a minor release?
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My apologies, I neglected to word my post correctly. The fact remains that Apple is actually introducing the ability to attach photos and video (only) from within the mail app tomorrow with iOS6 stable, first touted in June as part of the 10 major features in iOS6, specifically called "Enhanced Mail".
http://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/#mail
Sorry, but is this what you call innovation?
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More iPhone users leaving than ever before yet Apple have a word with you! "we sells out in 24h frame preorder, and counting" I see what tou did there!
I am buying my first non iPhone in about 5 years. When iOS 6 was released I was unimpressed and started questioning what iOS could offer that other OS couldn't and i couldn't come up with many answers. I decided to wait for the unveiling of the iPhone 5 to see if any new phone only features would be added that would convince me to purchase. I had the money ready to go and was already planning my pre order. When apple unveiled the iPhone with iOS 6 I was more disapointed in the OS rather than the phone its self. I am now waiting for either the new Nokia or new Nexus phones the Nokia in particular seems to be the phone I am going for. The reason for this is just a personal one, my opinion is that iOS is a bit lacking and stale compared to WP8 which will be compatable with my laptop and Android seem to have not only caught up but starting to surpass iOS. I don't consider myself an apple die hard but I have really enjoyed the iPhone but now I think its time to move on. Judging by the pre orders the iPhone appears to be as popular as ever i just couldn't bring myself to spend £600 on something I already have in my iPhone 4.
No you are spending way too much time worrying about nomenclature regarding OS's. Too prissy for my taste.
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As the other poster said, one could always attach media from the media apps...now you can do it from within mail directly.
But isn't the point this? Smartphone are made of Apps. Every App that I have on my iPhone (120 apps, btw), that generates a document, link, photo, Excel, Powerpoint, word document, etc, within that app, allows to you email, message (& sometimes FB or Twitter) it. Doing it from the App where it was generated, is one clean step.
Also, If I receive an attachment from email, I can forward that to others.
The only thing I'm seeing a problem, is if you use your phone for USB-like storage of plain files, and you want to attach them to an email. But that is sort of out of the smartphone/app architecture. Its a phone, not a desktop, laptop...i.e. a full blown personal computer. It's a phone, and I haven't found any reason to feel halted with using it as it is. But even with plain files, there are 3rd party dropboxes that serve that function, I believe, and don't know exactly, since I have no need for them.
But if you have an App that generates a document, that app, I found, lets you attach it to an email or message directly. It works fine.
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For anyone following along:
1) Calidude's polls didn't capture a representative sample of this community
2) 'significant chunk' is meaningless, because there is nothing 'statistically significant' about his polls at all. Statistical significance is met under particular conditions for reliability and validity, conditions which haven't been satisfied here at all. It's a total joke.
It absolutely can be ignored. Any intro stats textbook will mathematically prove that your polls are no more reliable or valid than a random number generator.
Too bad the poll never got a representative sample of those forum members.
None of this even accounts for the ineptitude with which the poll questions were written or the lack of consideration of confounding variables. Sprinkling numbers on garbage doesn't make it useful, it just makes more garbage.
iPhone 5 smashes Carphone Warehouse pre-order record
Apple's latest iPhone has become the most pre-ordered handset in the history of UK retailer The Carphone Warehouse.
Yesterday, Apple announced that the iPhone 5 shifted 2 million units in just 24 hours after pre-orders began on September 14. This surpassed the previous record of 1m units set by its predecessor, the iPhone 4S.
The Carphone Warehouse has now announced that it too experienced record demand for the iPhone 5 after starting advanced orders last Friday.
The UK's largest independent mobile retailer said that it has taken four times as many pre-orders for the new Apple smartphone as any other handset since it started trading in 1989.
Graham Stapleton, the chief commercial officer at Carphone Warehouse, said that demand for the iPhone 5 has "smashed all previous handset launches" at the retailer.
He noted that the iPhone 5 launch last week also helped Carphone Warehouse online have its most successful ever week, including traffic increasing 63% on the previous seven days.
"Perhaps surprisingly, over half of the traffic on the evening of the announcement [on September 12] came via our mobile website with mobile data up nearly 200% week-on-week," he said.
"We're witnessing a fundamental shift in the way customers access content and purchase technology, with as many people now as happy to access website content through the device in their pocket rather than the PC on their desktop.
"We also noticed that two-thirds of the increased mobile traffic came from iPhones and iPads - it's apparent that huge numbers of current iPhone users are interested in upgrading their device to the newest Apple handset."
The Carphone Warehouse has sold every variant of the iPhone since the original launched in 2007, and the firm estimates that it has sold more than 1.6m units of the Apple smartphone to date.
The iPhone 5 comes with a larger 4-inch Retina display, a faster A6 processor, improved camera technology and a new dock connector. It is available for free from The Carphone Warehouse on mobile plans from £46 per month.
Apple's latest iPhone has become the most pre-ordered handset in the history of UK retailer The Carphone Warehouse.
Yesterday, Apple announced that the iPhone 5 shifted 2 million units in just 24 hours after pre-orders began on September 14. This surpassed the previous record of 1m units set by its predecessor, the iPhone 4S.
The Carphone Warehouse has now announced that it too experienced record demand for the iPhone 5 after starting advanced orders last Friday.
The UK's largest independent mobile retailer said that it has taken four times as many pre-orders for the new Apple smartphone as any other handset since it started trading in 1989.
Graham Stapleton, the chief commercial officer at Carphone Warehouse, said that demand for the iPhone 5 has "smashed all previous handset launches" at the retailer.
He noted that the iPhone 5 launch last week also helped Carphone Warehouse online have its most successful ever week, including traffic increasing 63% on the previous seven days.
"Perhaps surprisingly, over half of the traffic on the evening of the announcement [on September 12] came via our mobile website with mobile data up nearly 200% week-on-week," he said.
"We're witnessing a fundamental shift in the way customers access content and purchase technology, with as many people now as happy to access website content through the device in their pocket rather than the PC on their desktop.
"We also noticed that two-thirds of the increased mobile traffic came from iPhones and iPads - it's apparent that huge numbers of current iPhone users are interested in upgrading their device to the newest Apple handset."
The Carphone Warehouse has sold every variant of the iPhone since the original launched in 2007, and the firm estimates that it has sold more than 1.6m units of the Apple smartphone to date.
The iPhone 5 comes with a larger 4-inch Retina display, a faster A6 processor, improved camera technology and a new dock connector. It is available for free from The Carphone Warehouse on mobile plans from £46 per month.
Just don't see it happening, Calidude. Not on the scale you're talking about.
You're really underestimating the herd, mon ami.
You're really underestimating the herd, mon ami.
Here's the problem with your reasoning:
There are many iOS users that will switch to Android for a new experience, new hardware options, new functionality and accessories, etc.
There are also MANY Android users that will switch to iOS.
It's an equilibrium, the scale never tips in either favor.
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I can play this game too. Is smoothening out animations and improving touch response and finger tracking (read: THE FOUNDATION OF TOUCH SCREEN TECHNOLOGY) innovation? Android ostensibly has soooo many features, and yet it can't even perform the most rudimental of tasks as well as the iPhone.
There are many iOS users that will switch to Android for a new experience, new hardware options, new functionality and accessories, etc.
There are also MANY Android users that will switch to iOS.
It's an equilibrium, the scale never tips in either favor.
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I can play this game too. Is smoothening out animations and improving touch response and finger tracking (read: THE FOUNDATION OF TOUCH SCREEN TECHNOLOGY) innovation? Android ostensibly has soooo many features, and yet it can't even perform the most rudimental of tasks as well as the iPhone.
Welp, here it is in a nutshell: Apple products are bad. If they don't sell, it's because they're no good. If they do sell, it's because of 'the herd'. Make up arguments and 'evidence' so long as it drives home the first point. Repeat.
How much does Online Reputation Management pay these days? I hope none of you are doing this for free.