iPhone 6 Plus lag is real

[FatPuppy]

So you're honestly telling me that you have a better iPhone 6 than me? When I do a fresh install of iOS 9.0 GM (not beta), and set up as a new phone, it will be just as smooth as iOS 8.4.1? Because with me, iOS 9 feels like a step backwards performance-wise and I know for a fact that my iPhone 6 is no slower than your iPhone 6.

Yeah, people keep defending Apple by telling that not every iphone is the same but they all are, every iphone 6 performs the same. Sure, some people fill theirs with a lot of crap, do intensive tasks and end up with a slow iphone but even then the difference is not that big. The only explanation for this is that people refuse to see the problems.

 

[ZEEN0j]

About devices acting differently. I have never seen one iphone lag in one place and another iphone not lagging there. All iphones I've had have been exactly the same to the next. Getting replacements from apple, comparing to friends and family.

The small percentage you speak of that have major issues where you can see a clear difference. Those are not the devices we are speaking about. Those devices need a replacement or a restore to fix the issues. The framerate drops thats visible can be seen on all devices in the apple store (iOS 7-8) and all my friends iphones and ipads. All devices run the same. No matter how many times I've restored my phones it has never been worse or better than before.

So I'm sorry. I just can't believe when someone says it's running buttery smooth. They either don't care or can't notice the small drops that happen everywhere but not always.

Multitasking and spotlight have not dropped frames before on my devices but are doing so now. It's not my device or my backup I've tried with and fresh and it's exactly the same. And having a smooth multitasking menu is important to me, as important as having a smooth animation switching home screen pages.

I'm not saying it must run 60 frames every single time. But it has been much better before. But all the effects (that I enjoy) is either not optimized or to taxing on the hardware. These framerate drops also causes input delay. Even 6s drops frames when pulling down spotlight (youtube video I saw). But that doesn't bother me that much. The proactive screen does the same and that doesn't drop frames so ill just use that instead. Im hoping 6s solves the drops in all the blurry effects.

This is comparing iOS 8.4.1, 9, 9.1 beta 1

My 6 was smooth when I bought it and my air 2 on 8.4.1. But it's not in important places now.

 

[Jayson A]

About devices acting differently. I have never seen one iphone lag in one place and another iphone not lagging there. All iphones I've had have been exactly the same to the next. Getting replacements from apple, comparing to friends and family.

The small percentage you speak of that have major issues where you can see a clear difference. Those are not the devices we are speaking about. Those devices need a replacement or a restore to fix the issues. The framerate drops thats visible can be seen on all devices in the apple store (iOS 7-8) and all my friends iphones and ipads. All devices run the same. No matter how many times I've restored my phones it has never been worse or better than before.

So I'm sorry. I just can't believe when someone says it's running buttery smooth. They either don't care or can't notice the small drops that happen everywhere but not always.

Multitasking and spotlight have not dropped frames before on my devices but are doing so now. It's not my device or my backup I've tried with and fresh and it's exactly the same. And having a smooth multitasking menu is important to me, as important as having a smooth animation switching home screen pages.

I'm not saying it must run 60 frames every single time. But it has been much better before. But all the effects (that I enjoy) is either not optimized or to taxing on the hardware. These framerate drops also causes input delay. Even 6s drops frames when pulling down spotlight (youtube video I saw). But that doesn't bother me that much. The proactive screen does the same and that doesn't drop frames so ill just use that instead. Im hoping 6s solves the drops in all the blurry effects.

This is comparing iOS 8.4.1, 9, 9.1 beta 1

My 6 was smooth when I bought it and my air 2 on 8.4.1. But it's not in important places now.

You shouldn't have to buy a new iPhone to get better performance. It amazes me that Apple makes the hardware AND the software and STILL can't get them to work together nicely.

It seems like the only OS that will be good on your phone is the OS that came WITH the phone, but you must stay on that OS on that phone forever unless you wanna deal with slowness. It's sad really. I was really looking forward to iOS 9 and everyone said it would be smoothed out before the final release saying "It's only a beta! Of course it's not optimized yet! Don't judge until the final version comes out". Well guess what... the final version is out and it still behaves exactly like beta 5 (or PB3)... I can't find any differences

 

[Beavix]

Want to see real lag on the 6+? Set a dynamic wallpaper and then try using the app switcher.

 

[ZEEN0j]

You shouldn't have to buy a new iPhone to get better performance. It amazes me that Apple makes the hardware AND the software and STILL can't get them to work together nicely.

It seems like the only OS that will be good on your phone is the OS that came WITH the phone, but you must stay on that OS on that phone forever unless you wanna deal with slowness. It's sad really. I was really looking forward to iOS 9 and everyone said it would be smoothed out before the final release saying "It's only a beta! Of course it's not optimized yet! Don't judge until the final version comes out". Well guess what... the final version is out and it still behaves exactly like beta 5 (or PB3)... I can't find any differences

Exactly. I didn't have many things to complain about with 8.4.1. It still dropped frames is some places but didn't bother me that much. I was thinking metal would fix all those tiny issues. But for things to actually be worse came as a surprise. Maybe I didn't understand what metal was going to do I don't know. My ipad air dropped frames with iOS 8. And when I got my air 2 all those issues when away. Now my air 2 feels like my air 1 on iOS 8.

 

[Jayson A]

Exactly. I didn't have many things to complain about with 8.4.1. It still dropped frames is some places but didn't bother me that much. I was thinking metal would fix all those tiny issues. But for things to actually be worse came as a surprise. Maybe I didn't understand what metal was going to do I don't know. My ipad air dropped frames with iOS 8. And when I got my air 2 all those issues when away. Now my air 2 feels like my air 1 on iOS 8.

Ah, you just need to wait for the Air 3 to fix that

 

[t0mat0]

Yeah, people keep defending Apple by telling that not every iphone is the same but they all are

You sure? - https://www.macrumors.com/2014/11/07/apple-stopping-tlc-nand-flash-iphone-6-6-plus/
TLC NAND iPhone 6 with a write speed of around 200MB/s vs 100MB/s with MLC. Not a small difference

Also after a release, Apple can & do tweak their manufacturing for any issues they find after launch.

E.g. https://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/04/apple-effa-program/ or above with the iPhone 6.
Presumably Apple bins their CPUs too, so there's that variation too.

 

[walmartmartyr]

6+ is a total flop!

 

[TommyA6]

What people don't seem to understand is that while most of us have an iPhone 6/6+, no 2 devices will run the same. Sure they have the same hardware and maybe even the same settings, but no 2 devices will run the same. One persons praise will be another's reproach.

Actually, if you do a fresh install, every iPhone 6 Plus will run the same. (Even if you don't it will). iOS ain't Windows, and you cant fiddle with settings and mess things up (or maybe even improve performance). Also, apps don't have permission to change the core OS, so again, apps cannot affect perfomance (outside of the app itself).
Unless, your iPhone 6 Plus has some faulty hardware (which is very rare), it will run iOS 9 the same as every other iPhone 6 Plus.

 

[TommyA6]

You sure? - https://www.macrumors.com/2014/11/07/apple-stopping-tlc-nand-flash-iphone-6-6-plus/
TLC NAND iPhone 6 with a write speed of around 200MB/s vs 100MB/s with MLC. Not a small difference

Also after a release, Apple can & do tweak their manufacturing for any issues they find after launch.

E.g. https://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/04/apple-effa-program/ or above with the iPhone 6.
Presumably Apple bins their CPUs too, so there's that variation too.

NAND flash has no effect on iOS animation smoothness, since OS is loaded in RAM.

 

[simon lefisch]

Actually, if you do a fresh install, every iPhone 6 Plus will run the same. (Even if you don't it will). iOS ain't Windows, and you cant fiddle with settings and mess things up (or maybe even improve performance). Also, apps don't have permission to change the core OS, so again, apps cannot affect perfomance (outside of the app itself).
Unless, your iPhone 6 Plus has some faulty hardware (which is very rare), it will run iOS 9 the same as every other iPhone 6 Plus.

If every phone ran the same, everyone would either be complaining about how the bad the runs or praising how well it runs. Obviously that's not the case.

 

[TommyA6]

If every phone ran the same, everyone would either be complaining about how the bad the runs or praising how well it runs. Obviously that's not the case.

Some people don't notice dropped frames that much. Also, people have different standards for performance and smoothness. I expect nearly flawless performance and smoothness from Apple (considering we had just that until iOS 7).

 

[ZEEN0j]

Some people don't notice dropped frames that much. Also, people have different standards for performance and smoothness. I expect nearly flawless performance and smoothness from Apple (considering we had just that until iOS 7).

This is a never ending discussion. There is no use in trying to convince the people that say they have a great experience. Let's not teach them how to spot the drops. Just went back to iOS 8.4.1 with the same backup. So much smoother.

 

[C DM]

This is a never ending discussion. There is no use in trying to convince the people that say they have a great experience. Let's not teach them how to spot the drops. Just went back to iOS 8.4.1 with the same backup. So much smoother.

Some people don't have the same issues. And some thst do don't consider them issues. There are plenty of people in the world annoyed by all kinds of imperfections that exist in real life everywhere, but many don't care about many of them or aren't affected by them as imprecfect as something might be. What's the point for those people to seek out and worry about those things just to make it worse on themselves when they aren't affected by them to begin with?

 

[simon lefisch]

I know that iOS 9 is already better than iOS 8 on my 6+ due to the fact that I don't have as many JetSam logs. On 8, I was getting about 5-7 logs a day minimum everyday. Right now, I only have one, and that was from yesterday at 6am, after installing iOS 9 GM the night before. Haven't had one since and I've been using my phone quite a bit. To me, that shows iOS 9 already has stability improvements.

 

[ZEEN0j]

Some people don't have the same issues. And some thst do don't consider them issues. There are plenty of people in the world annoyed by all kinds of imperfections that exist in real life everywhere, but many don't care about many of them or aren't affected by them as imprecfect as something might be. What's the point for those people to seek out and worry about those things just to make it worse on themselves when they aren't affected by them to begin with?

That's what I'm saying.

 

[TommyA6]

Want to see real lag on the 6+? Set a dynamic wallpaper and then try using the app switcher.

Just tried and it truly is embarrassing. It's worse than Android 1.0...
Performance and optimization my ***.

 

[bandofbrothers]

I don't have a 6 plus but I can tell you my experience on my 5s: safari works just fine, the emailing stuff works good with no problems, the messages app has a few lag issues with the keyboard and the animation with the bubble text which is laggy and all works when making a phone call. There is still a delay when opening apps but it s very small and you get used to it, the switcher is only a bit laggy when you tap on an app and Control Center lags really bad with or without the fancy blur effects. Again, this is on my 5s.

Thank you for your reply. I'm in no way making light of the experiences people are reporting. As long as the phone performs in the actions I highlighted ,then for me that's what I need.

The rest should be addressed by  via updates. We'll see.

Again thank you for taking the time to share your experiences.

 

[shenfrey]

The lag is indeed real and, and my mind is almost made up on wether to revert back to 8.4.

 

[fjarl]

General > Accessibility > Increase Contrast > Reduce Transparency turn ON.....noticeable improvements

This is the one. I was running 9.1b on my 6+, went to the settings and turned off the transparency effects. Now the task switcher is 60fps and there is, basically, no more lag anywhere. There is something very weird about the blurring that doesn't really work the way it should on 6+ (and possibly on other models).

It does look uglier without the nice transparency, but now the animations are As They Should Be(tm)

 

[kirky29]

This is the one. I was running 9.1b on my 6+, went to the settings and turned off the transparency effects. Now the task switcher is 60fps and there is, basically, no more lag anywhere. There is something very weird about the blurring that doesn't really work the way it should on 6+ (and possibly on other models).

It does look uglier without the nice transparency, but now the animations are As They Should Be(tm)

Helped for me too, still a tiny stutter on the multitasking but way better than before. The dock sure does look ugly tho!

 

[Salvor Hardin]

This is the one. I was running 9.1b on my 6+, went to the settings and turned off the transparency effects. Now the task switcher is 60fps and there is, basically, no more lag anywhere. There is something very weird about the blurring that doesn't really work the way it should on 6+ (and possibly on other models).

It does look uglier without the nice transparency, but now the animations are As They Should Be(tm)

It applies a blur over the last viable app in the list which I find useless and idiotic. I hope the effect get's a serious rethinking sooner than latter because it's been a thorn in general responsiveness of iOS since it was introduced. Effects like that should never get in the way of UI responsiveness.

Helped for me too, still a tiny stutter on the multitasking but way better than before. The dock sure does look ugly tho!

The way very first versions of iOS 7 handled this was a lot nicer, the dock and folder backgrounds used a prebaked blend of the background.

 

[robertkarlsen]

Want to see real lag on the 6+? Set a dynamic wallpaper and then try using the app switcher.

Tried it. Never cried this much! 1100 Dollars i'll never see again :'(

 

[februarian]

****'s real. Even 9.1 seemingly couldn't solve the lag apparently.

 

[perkedel]

scrolling in settings is not smooth for me, ip6+.