iPhone 6 users who tried the Note 4 at Best Buy?

[pdqgp]

However, in the end... iOS wins. Why? Reliability.

Not picking on you personally, but with all the issues iOS has had over the last several releases, the above statement is filled with irony. Really.

After so long you can't deal with the unreliable android OS. Sometimes you miss notifications,
missed calls,
missed texts,
missed emails,
rouge apps draining your battery,
malicious apps that want to track your locations - use your camera - listen to your microphone,
and the list goes on and on.

I've never had any of the above on my AT&T note 3. Missed calls, texts, emails, etc. sound more like a carrier issue. Has happened on my phones for years and I've never seen it related directly to a phone unless a user configured the volume or settings incorrectly....or perhaps with the iPhone 4 during antenna-gate.

In terms of battery drain, IMO, it's also a matter of user set up. Rogue apps don't just appear on your phone or take over. I've seen my Note 3 drain fast due to certain games or settings, etc. but the issue is easily traced and corrected.

I've never seen or downloaded an app that uses my camera or mic. to listen or spy on me. If you can list some specifics that would prove helpful that would be great. I'd also be curious as to why you downloaded said app.

Detail, details, details. Not slamming your experience or post, but it's a huge trend here and a pet peeve of mine when people share negatives about any device, they never seem to include specifics. Those details yield credibility.

After a few months I would have to erase my phone and start fresh just to keep that "new" feeling so the phone wouldn't get bogged down even though I run things bare minimum.

I've never had to do that. The Android OS is easily maintained as there's really nothing you have to do. Personally, my best-practice with any phone, just like any computer, is I reboot it now and then. That's it. I tend to reboot my phone first thing in the morning. Usually in the bathroom as I jump in the shower. I do this for no particular reason other than it's been my practice for years and I have had no PC Or phone issue for years.

My Note 3 was the worst out of all of them. Not only were there major issues with the phone itself (people couldn't hear me when I made a call through the phone) but the software was buggy, and unfinished.

Sounds like a bad device is all. Software wise, my guess is there were conflicts. Again, if you're seeing rogue apps and spying software, I would imagine issues are related to whatever you downloaded on your phone. Again, never seen those apps. Details would help.

.......the 2nd time I tried going to an AT&T repair center to get my phone replaced. They took it in the back to check it and told me they had swapped it out. Turns out they gave me the same phone back, just cleaned it up and put the plastic back on it. By this point I was fed up and traded it for an iPhone 5s.

I would have checked s/n's on the phone and handled things differently.

I'm not your average user, I consider myself an electronics nerd. For all that I do on my phone, every feature of that Galaxy series is a gimmick. The stylus was barely used in 3 generations of Note ownership. Never once did I use the multitasking.

I'm quite the technical person as well but not to the point where I'm causing myself issues. In terms of the stylus, that's not a problem with the phone that's on you for selecting a device that you perhaps didn't need or wasn't a fit.....over 3 generations.

Fingerprint reader on the S5 is a joke. All that power, and the phone still lags scrolling through long menus.

As a tech nut you should know that any "lag" is easily removed on the S5 or Note series simply by turning off the animations. I also use Nova Launcher as I hate Touch Wiz.

I'm your typical android hating apple fanboy.

No, not at all. I think you just had a bad experience, but I don't see anything you described as related to the phone or OS.

At the end of the day, if you want a phone that just works, where you don't have to worry about removing 30+ Google and Samsung apps that you'll never use just to get the phone stable (Google movies, music, books, voice, games, and tons of other "bloatware")

No need to remove anything. The phone is stable and smooth without issues.

And now, with the 5.5 inch screen and a battery that can easily get me through the day I have no reason to look back to android.

Based on your issues, it does sound like iOS is best for you.

If you want a phone that is reliable and just works.... Yes. If you want a phone that is very much like a windows pc, needing to be maintenanced all the time to keep running then android is for you.

Disagree. Android is nothing like Windows nor does Windows 7+ need any "maintenance" "all the time" to keep running smooth. Honestly dude, you must do a lot of incorrect things if you have so many issues with either or both. Stop messing around and you'll have less issues.

That is the experience I had on all of my Note devices. Safe to say the Note 4 continues in that same path.

That's cool. You're fine for leaving your experience. My only counterpoints are that they are indeed your experiences and not indicative of others or the device or the OS as you imply.

 

[Oohara]

After so many years I still can't like the archaic ios. All the backwardness from its inception is still around.

-Really slowly and laggy scrolling speed
-Tedious workaround just to do basic email attachments.
-silo data. Make multiple copies the same files for different apps.
-most horrible centralized settings which takes many times longer to set.
-Cannot move back to previous app with back button. Always need to use the task manager.
-locked down no usb host or plug and play support.
-no theme support which make the UI look the same as the other hordes millions.
-can't answer call with home button.

If you intended for yourself to lose all credibility with this post, then you did a good job. Congratulations. If you want to criticise something or make it look bad, then it really is in your interest to build on the truth and not pure fantasy.

Maybe slam the aesthetics, the horrid snot-green color of the notification panel icons, the lag when opening the Gallery (up to Note 3 at least), the cartoonish dialer, the incompetent S Voice or the ever insistent Samsung bloat. There are plenty of loathsome qualities in TouchWiz. But "slowly and laggy scrolling speed"? Please, my dear fellow, at least try! How lazy of you. Very disappointing indeed.

 

[tbayrgs]

If you intended for yourself to lose all credibility with this post, then you did a good job. Congratulations. If you want to criticise something or make it look bad, then it really is in your interest to build on the truth and not pure fantasy.

Maybe slam the aesthetics, the horrid snot-green color of the notification panel icons, the lag when opening the Gallery (up to Note 3 at least), the cartoonish dialer, the incompetent S Voice or the ever insistent Samsung bloat. There are plenty of loathsome qualities in TouchWiz. But "slowly and laggy scrolling speed"? Please, my dear fellow, at least try! How lazy of you. Very disappointing indeed.

Oohara--better go back and check the context of his reply. He's referring to why he dislikes iOS, not TouchWiz.

 

[z06gal]

what's your current phone?

iPhone 6 plus. I had 4 Android phones prior to getting an iPhone 5 and I absolutely love iOS.

 

[rrl]

If you intended for yourself to lose all credibility with this post, then you did a good job. Congratulations. If you want to criticise something or make it look bad, then it really is in your interest to build on the truth and not pure fantasy.

Maybe slam the aesthetics, the horrid snot-green color of the notification panel icons, the lag when opening the Gallery (up to Note 3 at least), the cartoonish dialer, the incompetent S Voice or the ever insistent Samsung bloat. There are plenty of loathsome qualities in TouchWiz. But "slowly and laggy scrolling speed"? Please, my dear fellow, at least try! How lazy of you. Very disappointing indeed.

I think he/she was talking about iOS, not Android or TouchWiz.

 

[Cnasty]

In utilizing both for very long periods of time, even WP at a moment, it always comes down to this for me.

Android phones-always superior hardware IMO with their screen sizes and quality on their flagships. iPhone is nothing to laugh at but I always loved the screens and feel of the Android flagships in my hand (Note 3,HTCM8,etc)

Iphones-software. Yes it is rolling out very old features that Android has had but I love the apple ecosystem, the simplicity, and the way it is presented in every single app that I use with them and program. Is it perfect, never. But I have always been able to rely on iOS more than any other Android OS.

I really enjoy both but when a bigger iPhone was released I had to go back and I have. Though the Note 4 is a beast and a very intriguing possibility if I ever go back

 

[z06gal]

Note 4 is a amazing device...not much to do on a iphone 6....

I am sure it is if you like Android. I don't understand why people compare phones that have totally different operating systems. For me, it is about the OS. I hate the bloat that comes with Android. For customization, it can't be beaten but that is not my interest.

 

[linkgx1]

Being an owner of a Samsung Blackjack > iPhone > iPhone 3G > iPhone 3GS > iPhone 4 > iPhone 4S > Note 1 > Note 2 > Note 3 > iPhone 5S > iPhone 6 Plus

I can say there is a reason why I came back to an iPhone. Android is great, don't get me wrong. I loved tinkering with my phone and customizing it. I learned how to code some java and even made some ROMs and add-ons for my android phones which I shared with the wonderful XDA android community... However, in the end... iOS wins. Why? Reliability.

After so long you can't deal with the unreliable android OS. Sometimes you miss notifications, missed calls, missed texts, missed emails, rouge apps draining your battery, malicious apps that want to track your locations - use your camera - listen to your microphone, and the list goes on and on. It's things you can deal with because they don't happen often. But when they do happen you're SOL. After a few months I would have to erase my phone and start fresh just to keep that "new" feeling so the phone wouldn't get bogged down even though I run things bare minimum.

My Note 3 was the worst out of all of them. Not only were there major issues with the phone itself (people couldn't hear me when I made a call through the phone) but the software was buggy, and unfinished. 4 times my phone was sitting on my desk not being used and 4 times it came up with a crashed app process with no way to stop the error from coming up without erasing the phone in recovery mode. After this happening the 2nd time I tried going to an AT&T repair center to get my phone replaced. They took it in the back to check it and told me they had swapped it out. Turns out they gave me the same phone back, just cleaned it up and put the plastic back on it. By this point I was fed up and traded it for an iPhone 5s.

I'm not your average user, I consider myself an electronics nerd. For all that I do on my phone, every feature of that Galaxy series is a gimmick. The stylus was barely used in 3 generations of Note ownership. Never once did I use the multitasking. Fingerprint reader on the S5 is a joke. All that power, and the phone still lags scrolling through long menus.

Now reading this you may think I'm your typical android hating apple fanboy. In fact I hate apple computers. I think they're overpriced junk (I built a hackintosh for less than 1/4 of the price as the same spec apple computer)

At the end of the day, if you want a phone that just works, where you don't have to worry about removing 30+ Google and Samsung apps that you'll never use just to get the phone stable (Google movies, music, books, voice, games, and tons of other "bloatware") then an iPhone is that device. When someone calls me, my phone rings. When someone texts me, my phone receives it. When someone comments on my picture on facebook, the app actually works. (although with the way 8.0 is working at the moment this isn't 100% true lol) And now, with the 5.5 inch screen and a battery that can easily get me through the day I have no reason to look back to android.

OMG, this. This is life! Someone who finally agrees with me. When I tell people I've had issues with the Note 3, I always get the response ''I've never had any apps freeze or crash on me'' which I find hard to believe.

Sometimes when I'm on a call, I can't end it even though I hung up the software didn't recongnize. Since my phone is a great communications device, I can't deal with it any more. I need something more reliable which is why my Note 3 is getting sold.

 

[Oohara]

After so many years I still can't like the archaic ios. All the backwardness from its inception is still around.

-Really slowly and laggy scrolling speed
-Tedious workaround just to do basic email attachments.
-silo data. Make multiple copies the same files for different apps.
-most horrible centralized settings which takes many times longer to set.
-Cannot move back to previous app with back button. Always need to use the task manager.
-locked down no usb host or plug and play support.
-no theme support which make the UI look the same as the other hordes millions.
-can't answer call with home button.

Oohara--better go back and check the context of his reply. He's referring to why he dislikes iOS, not TouchWiz.

LOL!! mib1800, I do apologize.

Funnily however I still think the point I bolded is just as outrageous in the case of iOS. Just replace the TouchWiz weak spots I ranted through with examples from iOS and then you can take that as my reply.

 

[maflynn]

The Note is a great phone and I almost bought it. I think Android particularly with the pen makes the Note a compelling productivity tool. With that said I'm leaning towards the iPhone as it makes more sense for my needs. I find that I'm so enmeshed in the apple ecosystem I'm much more efficient using that over any other platform.

 

[mib1800]

If you intended for yourself to lose all credibility with this post, then you did a good job. Congratulations. If you want to criticise something or make it look bad, then it really is in your interest to build on the truth and not pure fantasy.

Maybe slam the aesthetics, the horrid snot-green color of the notification panel icons, the lag when opening the Gallery (up to Note 3 at least), the cartoonish dialer, the incompetent S Voice or the ever insistent Samsung bloat. There are plenty of loathsome qualities in TouchWiz. But "slowly and laggy scrolling speed"? Please, my dear fellow, at least try! How lazy of you. Very disappointing indeed.

If you care only about aesthetic fine I am not arguing with you. Ios looks good on the outside but just pure rotten on the inside.

Just because of hidden agenda (greed) apple had their programmers design ios in a convoluted way. They put ridiculous restrictions just purely for Apple benefit and not the consumers.

And many apple fans just turn a blind eyes to this. Just a simple example of watching video. On android I just plug in and copy the video files into or just play the files directly off the thumb or portable drive.

On ios I have to use the one and only iTunes pc which then takes like forever to convert the files before syncing to phone. Or you play the video off icloud which suck up your expensive data plan and drain the battery in a zap.

There are many many more such examples. Yeah touchwiz may not look nice and may lag at times but at least you can get the job done. On Ios you are just dead in the water and no matter how good it looks you are still dead in the water.

 

[l3uddz]

If you care only about aesthetic fine I am not arguing with you. Ios looks good on the outside but just pure rotten on the inside.

Just because of hidden agenda (greed) apple had their programmers design ios in a convoluted way. They put ridiculous restrictions just purely for Apple benefit and not the consumers.

And many apple fans just turn a blind eyes to this. Just a simple example of watching video. On android I just plug in and copy the video files into or just play the files directly off the thumb or portable drive.

On ios I have to use the one and only iTunes pc which then takes like forever to convert the files before syncing to phone. Or you play the video off icloud which suck up your expensive data plan and drain the battery in a zap.

There are many many more such examples. Yeah touchwiz may not look nice and may lag at times but at least you can get the job done. On Ios you are just dead in the water and no matter how good it looks you are still dead in the water.

Excellent post, I own an iphone 6+ and while I think it is a great device in its own right there are a lot of annoyances which boils down to the iOS. The thing I love about android is the freedom you have... You can use your device however you want without being told no, you can't do that because we don't want you using your paid for device todo those things... Here are just afew things I love about android:

Downloading mp3 files and loading them into your music player without the need to use computer.
Edit mp3 tags/cover art directly on your phone.
Downloading torrents/nzbs on your phone.
Using TOR on your phone (Orbot).
Playing non apple video formats (I had vlc on my ipad which worked great, however apple felt the need to purge vlc from the appstore, probably because it was eating into itunes profits).
Bluetooth file transfer capabilities (yes iOS has AirDrop but you can't transfer music or videos...)

I will be giving my mother the iPhone 6+ because let's face it, iOS is great for the tech challenged as everything is simple. I'll grab the note 4 on 17th, although I am extremely tempted by the Xperia Z3

 

[Technarchy]

Tried it. Wasn't impressed in the slightest.

Truth be told I thought the Note 3's design felt overall nicer.

The much ballyhooed screen didn't strike me as being all that great of an improvement over the S5. But it did have some nice wallpapers...

 

[Chodite]

Tried it. Wasn't impressed in the slightest.

Truth be told I thought the Note 3's design felt overall nicer.

The much ballyhooed screen didn't strike me as being all that great of an improvement over the S5. But it did have some nice wallpapers...

Did you try the Note 4 like.. for real? Or imagined that you did?
Because I own a Note 3 and an S5 and.... yeah. BS. Sorry man.

 

[aeboi]

I also have the Note 3 and the Note 4 is definitely a step up. Some people are just delusional.

 

[linkgx1]

I also have the Note 3 and the Note 4 is definitely a step up. Some people are just delusional.

Note 3 owner. I agree. It definitely is nicer, especially dat dere display. Not getting it, but it's still nice.

 

[jamezr]

Tried it. Wasn't impressed in the slightest.

Truth be told I thought the Note 3's design felt overall nicer.

The much ballyhooed screen didn't strike me as being all that great of an improvement over the S5. But it did have some nice wallpapers...

My experience was different. The screen to me was amazing. The colors just popped. Even TW seems a little faster. I have a Galaxy S5 and IP6....I think the Note 4 has the best screen.......
But for my tastes...the N4 is just a little too large for my uses.

 

[fredaroony]

has the best mobile OS in the world.

You forgot the "in my opinion" afterwards....

I wouldn't call an OS where you can't attach a file to an existing email the best in the world by a long shot.

 

[Oohara]

If you care only about aesthetic fine I am not arguing with you. Ios looks good on the outside but just pure rotten on the inside.

Just because of hidden agenda (greed) apple had their programmers design ios in a convoluted way. They put ridiculous restrictions just purely for Apple benefit and not the consumers.

And many apple fans just turn a blind eyes to this. Just a simple example of watching video. On android I just plug in and copy the video files into or just play the files directly off the thumb or portable drive.

On ios I have to use the one and only iTunes pc which then takes like forever to convert the files before syncing to phone. Or you play the video off icloud which suck up your expensive data plan and drain the battery in a zap.

There are many many more such examples. Yeah touchwiz may not look nice and may lag at times but at least you can get the job done. On Ios you are just dead in the water and no matter how good it looks you are still dead in the water.

Dude, read up two posts, I already said that I had misread you and thought it was TouchWiz you were criticising

I don't like the restrictive nature of iOS either, and I love being able to handle files freely on my Note 2. However I don't go to the extreme of calling iOS crap because of it. They're just two different OS's, for folks with different preferences. I'm happy the choice is there to be made.

What I did react against in your post was the line "really slowly and laggy scrolling speed" - which is equally untrue on both OS's. iOS may have a slower scrolling speed though, sure. This is fine for those who prefer this; whether it is good or bad is entirely subjective. But - I wouldn't call scrolling on either OS "laggy". Especially not iOS, honestly. I think even most iOS/Apple haters would agree. iOS has many weaknesses, but being laggy is really not one of them.

Arguing the disadvantages of any OS as much as you want, but you're only hurting your own credibility and the discussion as a whole when you throw in arbitrary opinions that have little to do with the truth.

 

[mib1800]

Dude, read up two posts, I already said that I had misread you and thought it was TouchWiz you were criticising

I don't like the restrictive nature of iOS either, and I love being able to handle files freely on my Note 2. However I don't go to the extreme of calling iOS crap because of it. They're just two different OS's, for folks with different preferences. I'm happy the choice is there to be made.

What I did react against in your post was the line "really slowly and laggy scrolling speed" - which is equally untrue on both OS's. iOS may have a slower scrolling speed though, sure. This is fine for those who prefer this; whether it is good or bad is entirely subjective. But - I wouldn't call scrolling on either OS "laggy". Especially not iOS, honestly. I think even most iOS/Apple haters would agree. iOS has many weaknesses, but being laggy is really not one of them.

Arguing the disadvantages of any OS as much as you want, but you're only hurting your own credibility and the discussion as a whole when you throw in arbitrary opinions that have little to do with the truth.

Scrolling on iPhone is laggy (in this respect i meant slow) to me after I got used to the speed and kinetic on android.

I just hate the fact it is so tedious to scroll on a long list. It takes 3 to 4 times more swipes to move the same distance compared to android. You lose credibility if you say it is not "laggy" when you need to expend 3 or 4 times more effort to achieve the same thing on iPhone.

 

[Cnasty]

I never understood why Android didnt implement the tap to get to the top thing Apple has.

Unless it does and I never figured out.

Loved that feature on iOS.

 

[Oohara]

Scrolling on iPhone is laggy (in this respect i meant slow) to me after I got used to the speed and kinetic on android.

I just hate the fact it is so tedious to scroll on a long list. It takes 3 to 4 times more swipes to move the same distance compared to android. You lose credibility if you say it is not "laggy" when you need to expend 3 or 4 times more effort to achieve the same thing on iPhone.

Ok, this is just semantics then. For me lag is when animations stutter, or when the touch response comes after the actual touch. I'm totally with you that page scrolling can be annoyingly slow on iOS.

I never understood why Android didnt implement the tap to get to the top thing Apple has.

Unless it does and I never figured out.

Loved that feature on iOS.

Patent?

 

[jamesrick80]

Note 3 and 4 are amazing device. I hate that iPhones have such a slow refresh rate especially if you are on a forum thread with lots of pictures. The scrolling is slow and the refresh rate is really slow.

 

[beosound3200]

Excellent post, I own an iphone 6+ and while I think it is a great device in its own right there are a lot of annoyances which boils down to the iOS. The thing I love about android is the freedom you have... You can use your device however you want without being told no, you can't do that because we don't want you using your paid for device todo those things... Here are just afew things I love about android:

Downloading mp3 files and loading them into your music player without the need to use computer.
Edit mp3 tags/cover art directly on your phone.
Downloading torrents/nzbs on your phone.
Using TOR on your phone (Orbot).
Playing non apple video formats (I had vlc on my ipad which worked great, however apple felt the need to purge vlc from the appstore, probably because it was eating into itunes profits).
Bluetooth file transfer capabilities (yes iOS has AirDrop but you can't transfer music or videos...)

I will be giving my mother the iPhone 6+ because let's face it, iOS is great for the tech challenged as everything is simple. I'll grab the note 4 on 17th, although I am extremely tempted by the Xperia Z3

so to sum it up, you like android because it allows you to pirate multimedia right?

and i saw this a thousand times. why would anyone download torrents on their phone?

maybe im old school, but i still have a computer AND a phone, and i do differentiate between them. maybe that will change when samsung releases 27 inch note 6.

and really, bluetooth file transfers? to transfer those 64kbps mp3s from your buddy?

utility ftw right? any kind of quality and ux is irrelevant... android in a sentence

 

[jamesrick80]

so to sum it up, you like android because it allows you to pirate multimedia right?

and i saw this a thousand times. why would anyone download torrents on their phone?

maybe im old school, but i still have a computer AND a phone, and i do differentiate between them. maybe that will change when samsung releases 27 inch note 6.

and really, bluetooth file transfers? to transfer those 64kbps mp3s from your buddy?

utility ftw right? any kind of quality and ux is irrelevant... android in a sentence

You are right, downloading torrents is such a waste, why not watch the movie or videos on a illegal website lol...much easier and doesn't waste space