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terraphantm

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How exactly is Apple bringing this into the light when it's been out for years.

Hell, banks have had that. Softcards? ISIS? (unfortunate name these days).

The big thing for me is their emphasis on privacy and security. I like that Apple doesn't know what I'm buying, where I'm shopping, or how much I'm spending. Google does collect that data.

Apple also seems to be more successful in getting partners to adopt NFC
 

AndroidKing

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iPhone's are the superior total package. Sure, they don't have S-Beam, or whatever other number of "features" the fandroids point to, but given the choice people overwhelmingly choose iPhone.
People overwhelmingingly chose Beats By Dre headphones, and Destiny just made $500 million in one day. That doesn't mean the product is good, it's just a triumph of marketing.
 

Taco1933

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Who cares? I've got a galaxy s5 that's packed with way more tech than the iPhone 6, but I can't wait to get rid of it. It's a piece of junk. Android may be first, but apple does it right.
 

Justin33

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Nov 2, 2013
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I know you're just trying to troll, but I'm going to give my fair, own real life experiences.

One or two family members have Androids. And a co-worker. So, I've checked them out, playing around and spending some time using them. On every single one, the screen is such a huge letdown. I'm talking about the quality and clearness. Even on my dads Galaxy S5. I wasn't rude, so I didn't say anything. I also owned a Galaxy Tab for a few months and its screen was kinda crappy too. It just reeks of cheapness. If it was great- I would say so.

But mostly, its that god-forsaken OS. Jesus. Its so... laggy and rough. It simply is not fluid like IOS. YES, it IS customizable. Font, colors etc. But I believe Apple got all that right from the beginning so I dont need to adjust that.

My co-worker has a new S5 also. It acts/feels like a Chinese copy. Not to be rude but its just clunky and I was disappointed by the camera. My point is, I've given them a fair shake and I think Apple is MUCH higher quality overall. Apple isnt always first, but when they do it, they usually get it RIGHT.

To each their own, but to me the choice is a no-brainer.
 

cynics

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Jan 8, 2012
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How is it so many people can ever even hint at the idea of Apple copying something? Like it holds any significance.

They invented everything you use today in tech.

Both phones on in the pic in the OP are based on the iPhone which was invented starting in 2003.

Any petty evolution in something is just insignificant to the big picture.

I dunno how people constantly think like this.

Same with iPad.

The Samsung watches are all just based on the fact that Apple was gonna make some, nothing else.

The whole world is shaped by Apple, why can't people realize how ridiculous the idea of ever bringing up such comparisons are --saying Apple copied an aspect of something on something that is a total copy of initial concept in the first place.

Apple invented your whole world, how cheap can you be to take jabs at little things like that considering the context of how they shaped our society?

Its such a sad display of jealousy every time.

As you can tell from my sig I'm very much into Apple products. However your post is just embarrassing.

However just for fun I want to play devils advocate.

So you are basically saying Apple is incapable of copying ideas because the entire idea was Apples to begin with? Therefore evolutions to that idea are just a copy of the original?

Thats borderline insanity. The iPhone itself, even as a concept and even quoted by Steve Jobs was the evolution of smartphones! It in itself was already the copying and improvement of ideas already in use (and not well with the original iPhone I might add).

NFC devices have been out for a very long time, Phillips, Sony and others invented the tech 10 years ago not Apple. Smart watches (I had one 2 1/2 years or so Nike FuelBand) have been out a very long time (Pebble). Apple improves on those ideas and you say everyone is copying them? Now THATS sad...
 

AndroidKing

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Sep 10, 2014
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Who cares? I've got a galaxy s5 that's packed with way more tech than the iPhone 6, but I can't wait to get rid of it. It's a piece of junk. Android may be first, but apple does it right.
You should have gotten an HTC M8 instead. Not a big fan of Samsung phones myself. Touchwiz's zany interface looks like it was designed by Six Flags.
 

Taco1933

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Aug 14, 2014
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You should have gotten an HTC M8 instead. Not a big fan of Samsung phones myself/


Probably. I got the s5 with an open mind. I hate being wrong, and I wanted to like it. It just wasn't good, and it soured me on android as a whole.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
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Because it's been a thing for 5 years and nobody in America uses it.

No one uses it when compared to overall credit card purchases. However there are quite a few people that use it it just goes unnoticed. Like Passbook, people on this forum get up in arms about how much they use it and how often they see it etc etc. Overall transactions using it statistically amount to nothing as well.

Check out this video I found on youtube. Warning, mute the volume because the song sucks. However the point is the integration already there and more importantly look at the date the video was posted (jan '12).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ2pSzpnY_g
 

terraphantm

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Jun 27, 2009
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No one uses it when compared to overall credit card purchases. However there are quite a few people that use it it just goes unnoticed. Like Passbook, people on this forum get up in arms about how much they use it and how often they see it etc etc. Overall transactions using it statistically amount to nothing as well.

Check out this video I found on youtube. Warning, mute the volume because the song sucks. However the point is the integration already there and more importantly look at the date the video was posted (jan '12).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ2pSzpnY_g

The problem is that carriers made it a pain. I think Sprint was the only carrier that enabled Google Wallet's full functionality; the other carriers wanted you to use the ISIS service. And even if you got it working (either officially or by rooting), it didn't work at half the terminals I tried using it at. Some stores even outright said they disabled the contactless system for security purposes (not realizing it's far more secure than the magnetic stripe).

Apple has enough influence to speed up adoption, and carriers can't force Apple to disable Apple Pay in favor of their own service
 

AndroidKing

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Sep 10, 2014
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Probably. I got the s5 with an open mind. I hate being wrong, and I wanted to like it. It just wasn't good, and it soured me on android as a whole.
Well, I like interfaces that don't try to go crazy a couple years ago. Sense 6 is pretty close to stock Android with a bit of style. And Android L is gonna jazz up stock Android's functional but plain feel. LG G3 seems decent as well.

Touchwiz is a completely circus mode interface with water droplet sounds and ugly screen switching, and the super saturated colours from Charlie and a Chocolate Factory. Just tacky.

Anyway my HTC M8 is buttery smooth with all tasks, I recommend it.

And to be honest, I actually have no OS allegiances. I have a Windows PC (Dell XPS 27), an Android phone and an old iPhone 4 that I will sell soon to get the new iPad to play Appstore games. It's the crazy fans I can't stand, watching them literally give a standing ovation for features they've been bad mouthing for years in the competition made my blood boil yesterday.
 

Rob9874

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Jul 19, 2010
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Android fanboys also argue that Samsung TVs are no better than Vizio, because Vizio offers 1:1,000,000 contrast ratio & and 800Hz, which are better specs than your Samsung. And it's cheaper.
 

/dev/toaster

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Feb 23, 2006
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Android fanboys also argue that Samsung TVs are no better than Vizio, because Vizio offers 1:1,000,000 contrast ratio & and 800Hz, which are better specs than your Samsung. And it's cheaper.

Contrast ratio is such a BS selling point, there is no actual standard that defines what it is.
 

bkends35

macrumors 6502a
Feb 24, 2013
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No, apple doesn't do features first, BUT, they do them RIGHT, unlike the half-assed job google does. Few carriers support Google wallet and you know all iPhones will support it no matter what carrier its on. Second, Apple has the power to make companies implement the apple pay in stores, unlike google wallet. I dare you to go pick up an android phone and backup all your photos, texts, apps, app data, recent calls, basically everything and transfer that to a new phone. It's impossible. Google had a great opportunity to make hangouts a killer android messanger like iMessage but they failed miserably. Bad implementation and not pushing it like apple did with iMessage. Instead they left it up to manufacturers to make their own crappy messages app without its own messaging system like hangouts could've been. Yeah, android gets features first but apple actually makes them useful when they put new things in their products.
 

Astroboy907

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May 6, 2012
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Android vs iPhone discussion is worthless.

People pick phones based on their wants, needs, style preferences, et cetera.

Please, please, please do not try to force me into a different phone. I have an iPhone because I LIKE to have an iPhone. I like the stability of it. I like the app store. I like the easy to use platform. I don't need an 8 core processor. I do not need a large screen. I do not need bleeding-edge tech. And believe me, if I did, I would have switched phones.

People who use iPhones are not complete morons who have no idea that phones with better specs exist. You DO NOT need to tell me about other options. Every time someone brings up this debate and is all high and mighty about Android, I am slightly offended because they assume that I cannot think for myself. I don't need you to choose my phone for me.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
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Android vs iPhone discussion is worthless.

People pick phones based on their wants, needs, style preferences, et cetera.

Please, please, please do not try to force me into a different phone. I have an iPhone because I LIKE to have an iPhone. I like the stability of it. I like the app store. I like the easy to use platform. I don't need an 8 core processor. I do not need a large screen. I do not need bleeding-edge tech. And believe me, if I did, I would have switched phones.

People who use iPhones are not complete morons who have no idea that phones with better specs exist. You DO NOT need to tell me about other options. Every time someone brings up this debate and is all high and mighty about Android, I am slightly offended because they assume that I cannot think for myself. I don't need you to choose my phone for me.

I agree, but on the same note ............. We should be able to discuss and compare the iPhone without iFans jumping down our throats every someone points out what they feel is a shortcoming. Some of these iFans are hell bent at justifying against every single criticism about the iPhone.

Plenty of us Android users are also former and current iPhone users and have other Apple products. Many critics of the iPhone such as myself actually want the iPhone to be better than what it is, hardware and software wise.
 

JayIsAwesome

macrumors 68000
Sep 8, 2013
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Thought I saw you get ripped apart at Android Central today as well.

It was really quite amusing how much of a lather the Android faithful got worked up into there today. They didn't like it when I pointed out the fact that the posts/articles with the most comments and traffic on Android Central by far were the Apple related ones. Hell, I think their site crashed for a while during the Apple keynote.

Lol dude you can't even make a positive comment about Samsung without the iBots on this forum attacking. You have people on this site who act like Samsung murdered their mom or something. It's a bit much. Delusional fanboys are just annoying...whether it be Android, iOS, Samsung, or Apple.
 

BJonson

macrumors 6502a
Aug 26, 2010
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I've used Note 2, Note 3, Tab Pro/S, Nexus 5, Galaxy S5, LG G3... you name it... they're laggy. If you don't perceive them as laggy.. good for you, we have different standards and use smartphones differently. Personally I'm tired of a slow phone. I'd gladly take speed over some of the great functionalities of the Android OS.

Lies. I have all these phones. No lag.
 

Rob9874

macrumors 6502
Jul 19, 2010
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Contrast ratio is such a BS selling point, there is no actual standard that defines what it is.

Exactly my point. And a 13MP camera doesn't necessarily take better pics than an 8MP camera. And a higher resolution screen doesn't necessarily look better than it's lower resolution competition. Droid fans always want to argue "we had this first" or "our specs are better", but that doesn't always translate to a superior phone.
 

Astroboy907

macrumors 65816
May 6, 2012
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iPhone 6 - Welcome to 2012?

I agree, but on the same note ............. We should be able to discuss and compare the iPhone without iFans jumping down our throats every someone points out what they feel is a shortcoming. Some of these iFans are hell bent at justifying against every single criticism about the iPhone.

Plenty of us Android users are also former and current iPhone users and have other Apple products. Many critics of the iPhone such as myself actually want the iPhone to be better than what it is, hardware and software wise.


Also agreed. I know that the iPhone has a lot of shortcomings. I mean, for our day and age the screen is (was) small, and bleeding edge features are completely lacking. I know that the iPhone could be much, much better. But what is the point of trying to tell someone that what they bought was wrong?
I mean, if I went out and bought a new Mercedes for $80,000, would you go up to me and tell me I should've gotten the newest Mazda that gets the same MPG and looks fairly good as well? At this point I think it is fairly well known that Apple stays a bit behind the bleeding edge and works more at integrating tech into a highly user-friendly atmosphere, so specs are always going to be compared and "fall short" of whatever newest phone has just been released.

I won't be a fanboy and state that the iPhone is not the best phone in the world. Of course I wish apple put some more (now) standard features. But it is Apple, that is not their game. I'm just sick of people pushing android so hard... I've made my decision and I'm going to stick with it. Soon my contract will be up and I'll re-evaluate and who knows what will happen? I mean, right now the LG G3 looks pretty killer...
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
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Also agreed. I know that the iPhone has a lot of shortcomings. I mean, for our day and age the screen is (was) small, and bleeding edge features are completely lacking. I know that the iPhone could be much, much better. But what is the point of trying to tell someone that what they bought was wrong?
I mean, if I went out and bought a new Mercedes for $80,000, would you go up to me and tell me I should've gotten the newest Mazda that gets the same MPG and looks fairly good as well? At this point I think it is fairly well known that Apple stays a bit behind the bleeding edge and works more at integrating tech into a highly user-friendly atmosphere, so specs are always going to be compared and "fall short" of whatever newest phone has just been released.

I won't be a fanboy and state that the iPhone is not the best phone in the world. Of course I wish apple put some more (now) standard features. But it is Apple, that is not their game. I'm just sick of people pushing android so hard... I've made my decision and I'm going to stick with it. Soon my contract will be up and I'll re-evaluate and who knows what will happen? I mean, right now the LG G3 looks pretty killer...

Yea I hear that, some people go way overboard and get too passionate around this season.

I myself really wanted to switch things up again, Wanted the Lumia 1520 but the app selection is almost non existence, and wanted to give the iPhone another go but it's too much of the same for me.
 

BJonson

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Aug 26, 2010
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I got the LG G3 and love it. Why?

1. Screen size and resolution.
2. 160gb storage space.
3. Removable battery.
4. Camera.

If apple ever matches or beats these specs then I would consider coming back but they never will.
 

pdqgp

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Mar 23, 2010
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That's because you're use to it. You don't see it because you never used anything else.

Wrong. I have and have had plenty of iDevices.

iP3GS
iP4S
iPad 1, 3 and now Air.

Overall, I'm quite used to using both.


I was in the same boat as well. I use to think android was amazing.

What changed? I had to setup iphones for people. Iphone 4s to be specific. It was so smooth and the web browser actually worked. On android the web browser would freeze up, crash, or lock up the phone. It was really annoying.

Haven't had any issues myself. I use Firefox with Sync and Chrome on my Android. Both are smooth and never lock up. Again, you're comparing an experience that dates back to an iP4S. Years old information.


iPhone? Buy an iphone and it lasts forever. I never had the browser crash on me. I never experienced my phone lock up. I can use my phone and actually buy apps and it works.

Again, never had an issue with Android.

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Android fanboys also argue that Samsung TVs are no better than Vizio, because Vizio offers 1:1,000,000 contrast ratio & and 800Hz, which are better specs than your Samsung. And it's cheaper.

but in reality Sammy TV's have a limited color pallet. The real winner there is Sony.

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If apple ever matches or beats these specs then I would consider coming back but they never will.

wait 3 year and they'll be close. :D
 

SlCKB0Y

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Feb 25, 2012
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I'm just sick of people pushing android so hard... I've made my decision and I'm going to stick with it. Soon my contract will be up and I'll re-evaluate and who knows what will happen? I mean, right now the LG G3 looks pretty killer...

You're so sick of people posting positive things about aandroid that you're hanging out in and posting in a sub forum mostly dealing with android? Interesting...
 
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