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ucfgrad93

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Aug 17, 2007
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Are we just sticking with Apple because we refuse to admit things aren't what they were 5 or 6 years ago?

Most people, want a phone that does what they want it to do and don't really care about the specs. They focus on the user experience. If Apple doesn't make what you want, then buy whatever meets your needs.
 

kolax

macrumors G3
Mar 20, 2007
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There's more important things than what's on that list. Camera quality, build quality, and of course the integration with Yosemite. Apple is a bit slow with these screen size updates though.
 

Taco1933

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Aug 14, 2014
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Are we all just suckers?

Eh, depends on what you're after. After putting up with a galaxy s5 for a few months, I've learned that tech for the sake of tech, sucks. Apple will never be on the cutting edge, but by the time it comes, it'll be stable and user friendly. There's definitely value in that.
 

TommyA6

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May 15, 2013
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Seriously. I had seen this posted elsewhere online and after another poster here just mentioned it also, I think it bears some consideration. They took away the 32GB option for obvious reasons (to make more money) and once again, there are no real innovations on the iPhone 6 like we saw when the company was run under Jobs. Are you getting tired of this song and dance? Are we just sticking with Apple because we refuse to admit things aren't what they were 5 or 6 years ago?

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If only it was all about the spec sheet :rolleyes:

iPhone 5 had better cam than that nexus, was faster, had better screen etc.
iPhone 6 blows it away ...
 

TechGod

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Feb 25, 2014
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What did you expect in terms of features released today? They did a fine job in improving all their weak points.
 

eclipse01

macrumors 68030
May 16, 2011
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Too bad you still have to root your phone to do as good as a backup solution that Iphone has been able to do since 2007

but I totally agree, I was hoping for

Sapphire screen
waterproof
led notification

for the most part...
 

dacreativeguy

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Jan 27, 2007
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Nothing is perfect. I hope I'm not breaking this to you.

Apple sells an experience. You buy an iPhone and it is guaranteed to work with every other Apple product you have. Apple will support that product for several years with OS upgrades. They give you lots of free software. You can pop into any Apple store in most any decent sized city and get help/support/warranty repairs and replacements immediately. That is what you are paying for.

Compare that to Samsung? They give you a lot of crazy features, but do you really care if the movie stops playing when you stop looking at it? You are lucky to get one Android OS update, let alone 3 or 4. And where do you go when it breaks? The ATT or Verizon store?!?

There are tradeoffs with everything. Fortunately there are lots of options so people can make their own choices. This isn't Russia... is this Russia?
 

cathyy

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Apr 12, 2008
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4.7" screen - not a technological innovation.
760p resolution - If Apple didn't make the iPhone 4 with retina, we'll probably still be stuck on 640x480p phones these days.
NFC payment - When was the last time you used this?
Notification Actions/Widgets/Battery stats - Available long ago with jailbreaks
Cloud photo backup - Available for quite awhile

Wireless Charging - Doubt Apple will ever implement this simply because it's inefficient, and Apple is known to go green.
App installs from a browser - You click a link on the iPhone, App Store opens up. The only difference is the app store is more secure.
Virtual Buttons - Apple's done this since the first iPhone.

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What did you expect in terms of features released today? They did a fine job in improving all their weak points.

Probably hoped Apple would invent a 10" phone that can be folded into the size of an iPod nano.
 

Yoshi Yogurt

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Nov 5, 2010
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$950 price point for the 128 plus kills this for me.

I bought my wonderful 4S for $80 and I'm sticking with it until it no longer functions.
 

CMan0928

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Sep 8, 2014
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Are we all just suckers?

I dunno guys. There's a scene in the film 'Goodfellas' where Morrie is arguing with Henry about paying off a debt to Jimmy because he feels like he's getting screwed on the vig. He asks "What am I a schmuck on wheels?" Anyone else feeling a bit like Morrie after the keynote today?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3BzNKQPpOQ
 

identity

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Nov 18, 2011
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Because when Apple does it it's done right. When android does it it's half ass, useless, and doesn't work as advertised.

That's the difference. Apple gears their products towards usefulness not because it's a great gimmick.

Because Ping and MobileMe were so successful right? The delusional denial of Apple fans is hypocritical.

"3.5 inches is the best screen!"

"Wait, 4 inches is the best! Look at those bricks!"

"Nevermind, I'm sure this time guys that 5.5 inches is the best! Android large phones were just gimmicks before Apple!"
 

bhags8

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Mar 18, 2012
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no. we just want a phone that works, and works right with no lag. i switched to a GS4 last year before the 5s was announced bc i was pissed about screen size and hearing the 5s wasn't going bigger i got a galaxy s4 bc i wanted a bigger screen. 2 weeks later i returned it and got an htc one bc android on samsung was horrible. now don't get me wrong the htc one was great, htc's take on android i think is the best I've seen and i loved it but i felt like android takes too many steps to do something like you have to press 6 buttons before u can make a call. apps look so much better on iOS devices and i didn't like the way android uses mms for group chats and the pictures don't automatically load, you can to click it in the message for it to open. little things that made my life harder but if i came up only using android maybe it wouldn't bother me but ps i went back to a 5s and was clamoring for a bigger screen phone and now I'm thinking after getting a 5.5 i might not have to upgrade for a while bc theres nothing more honestly i need out of my phone



Funny that its comparing the Nexus line with the iPhone line. Yet you bring up a Samsung. The Nexus 5 has ZERO lag and all the same features with a lot better. Yet its half the price. Now how about trying a Nexus before acting like you know anything about it, fanboy.
 

TechGod

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Feb 25, 2014
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Because Ping and MobileMe were so successful right? The delusional denial of Apple fans is hypocritical.

"3.5 inches is the best screen!"

"Wait, 4 inches is the best! Look at those bricks!"

"Nevermind, I'm sure this time guys that 5.5 inches is the best! Android large phones were just gimmicks before Apple!"

You think Apple fanboys were like that or Apple themselves? Because I practically begged for a bigger screen.
 

/dev/toaster

macrumors 68020
Feb 23, 2006
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I dunno guys. There's a scene in the film 'Goodfellas' where Morrie is arguing with Henry about paying off a debt to Jimmy because he feels like he's getting screwed on the vig. He says "What am I a schmuck on wheels?" Anyone else feeling a bit like Morrie after the keynote today?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3BzNKQPpOQ

Nope not at all, Apple continues creating great hardware and software.
 

tbayrgs

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Jul 5, 2009
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You didn't listen/watch the keynote???? It may not have been the adjective but "best" "greatest" devices was spit out by him quite enough.

What do you expect them to say? Here's our 'new just OK, nothing new or exciting to see here' iPhone 6? Of course they're going to use all kinds of flowery, over the top adjectives. And I wasn't transcribing the keynote verbatim but I seem to recall most references to 'our best iPhone yet' or words to that effect, nothing stating the best phone ever.
 

Breaking Good

macrumors 65816
Sep 28, 2012
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Eh, depends on what you're after. After putting up with a galaxy s5 for a few months, I've learned that tech for the sake of tech, sucks. Apple will never be on the cutting edge, but by the time it comes, it'll be stable and user friendly. There's definitely value in that.

I'm with Taco and mikey on this.

If you want to try Android, go get a Nexus 7 tablet. If it works for you, then great. If not, well, you're only out $200 or so.

I have a Nexus 7, a SG4 for my personal phone, an iPhone 4 for work and an iPad 4. The Android devices are OK, but iOS is just a much smoother experience overall.
 

carjakester

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Oct 21, 2013
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Pretty good example is fingerprint readers. They've been around on business laptops for over a decade. Yet almost nobody ever bothered to use them because they were more trouble than they were worth

exactly, and when touch id comes, sure its "late" but it works seamlessly and is easy for everyone to use.
 

itjw

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Dec 20, 2011
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Androids do usually get a lot of "features". But features are NOT "innovation". Was that "innovation" that involved banging your android into someone else's "revolutionary"? Of course not. I did see it once in the wild, it was greatly amusing at least...

I really don't get the Android "angle". Just because you slap a rocket on the back doesn't make it "better" it just means that they can't innovate BEYOND what Apple has already done, and need to include gimmicks just to try and get it to sell.

iPhone's are the superior total package. Sure, they don't have S-Beam, or whatever other number of "features" the fandroids point to, but given the choice people overwhelmingly choose iPhone.

That speaks for itself. If you don't like it, enjoy your Android.
 

/dev/toaster

macrumors 68020
Feb 23, 2006
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Funny that its comparing the Nexus line with the iPhone line. Yet you bring up a Samsung. The Nexus 5 has ZERO lag and all the same features with a lot better. Yet its half the price. Now how about trying a Nexus before acting like you know anything about it, fanboy.

I have a Nexus 7 and compared to an iPad mini, it's trash. The battery life is very poor and doesn't have nearly the performance.

You get what you pay for.
 

identity

macrumors 6502
Nov 18, 2011
316
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You think Apple fanboys were like that or Apple themselves? Because I practically begged for a bigger screen.

I'm talking about pragmatous and people like him who believes everything is gimmicks until Apple releases the same thing which becomes revolutionary.
 

mikeydooodie

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May 13, 2008
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Funny that its comparing the Nexus line with the iPhone line. Yet you bring up a Samsung. The Nexus 5 has ZERO lag and all the same features with a lot better. Yet its half the price. Now how about trying a Nexus before acting like you know anything about it, fanboy.

i apologize you're right but still my opinion is my opinion and i personally think iOS is better than android but thats why we have options
 

TechGod

macrumors 68040
Feb 25, 2014
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You didn't listen/watch the keynote???? It may not have been the adjective but "best" "greatest" devices was spit out by him quite enough.

I did. So he is meant to say this product sucks etc? How the **** is that any form of good marketing for the product? You are taking it too far.
 

malevolant

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Jun 23, 2010
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Apple adds features to their devices when they feel the hardware/software are ready for it. Its not about loading a device with features at Apple, its about perfecting them and then adding them to make the User Experience as good as they can make it. Half the features added to the Galaxy S4/S5 hardly work.
 
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