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Maybe if you read the topic more thoroughly, you would have noticed the guy before my post had that iPhone 7 plus as audio. Instead you picked on mine. I figured he was talking about the speakers and nothing more.
Maybe if you read the topic more thoroughly, you would have noticed the guy before your post had that iPhone 7 plus as audio. Instead you incorrectly assumed that he meant only a subset of audio to further whatever agenda you're keen on pushing.
 

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Best audio does not go to iPhone 7. Cirrus Logic DACs aren't that great, especially the tiny ones they've put into the lightning-to-3.5mm dongles. And as for the wireless side of things, Bluetooth quality just flat out sucks.

The iPhone 6s has better audio than the 7, and by far.
LG V20 has much superior audio than any iphone 7 ...
 

Klyster

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Doesn't the LG V20 have quad DAC's?

And a headphone jack?
 
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Michael Goff

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Question about app resuming, which the iPhone excels at: How does it compare to an HP Elite x3 or a 950/xl?
 

Radon87000

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Glad you clarified peek and pop is useless for you. I use it constantly, something I would lose on android with loooonggg press. Full functionality and speed of 3dt will never be available in android without force touch.
3DT is a means to an end and if a gesture or a long press achieves the functions it sets out to do fine by me
Exactly. With iOS 10, 3D Touch has become even more crucial for how I interact with my iPhone; things like moving the cursor around text, replying to notifications, app shortcuts, etc., and all without a long press delay. I don't think I could downgrade to a phone without it. It's infinitely more useful than Samsung's traditional gimmicks like, oh I don't know, an edge to edge palm-magnet I mean display
FOr you* I can't remember the last time I even used 3DT productively .Even the Android implementation seems pointless in the end to me as by the time I manage to get the pressure right/long press , activate the function I would have already opened that app to begin with

So Apple's future iPhone is a palm magnet?

I agree about the keyboard cursor part and notifications though.The only functions where 3DT has been damn useful to me .Although on my iPhone 6 gboard had a feature which somewhat replicated it

Looonnnggg press has been around for years. I have to untrain myself not to press hard on those phones that done have 3dt.
So you must be making quite a fool of yourself pressing hard on apps which don't support it or whose implementation of it sucks.That must be around half of the App Store


For instance ,Outlook ,such a useless menu.When a new email comes in ,It doesn't even show me the subject line or a preview . If I was allowed to customise this I would remove that events widget and place my inbox there.Would be infinitely more useful

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3DT is a means to an end and if a gesture or a long press achieves the functions it sets out to do fine by me

FOr you* I can't remember the last time I even used 3DT productively .Even the Android implementation seems pointless in the end to me as by the time I manage to get the pressure right/long press , activate the function I would have already opened that app to begin with

So Apple's future iPhone is a palm magnet?

I agree about the keyboard cursor part and notifications though.The only functions where 3DT has been damn useful to me .Although on my iPhone 6 gboard had a feature which somewhat replicated it


So you must be making quite a fool of yourself pressing hard on apps which don't support it or whose implementation of it sucks.That must be around half of the App Store


For instance ,Outlook ,such a useless menu.When a new email comes in ,It doesn't even show me the subject line or a preview . If I was allowed to customise this I would remove that events widget and place my inbox there.Would be infinitely more useful
So basically we're debating the usefulness of something as subjective as "does it fit my needs". Got it. However, 3DT is more expansive in the functionality it provides as it's pressure sensitive. And while a long press might be the only thing you need, that doesn't mean the functionality is identical. Long press is a subset of 3DT as it's missing peek and pop.
 
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Radon87000

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So basically we're debating the usefulness of something as subjective as "does it fit my needs". Got it. However, 3DT is more expansive in the functionality it provides as it's pressure sensitive. And while a long press might be the only thing you need, that doesn't mean the functionality is identical. Long press is a subset of 3DT as it's missing peek and pop.

That's the point.No doubt Android will probably allow me to customise that menu which will make it a win win for everyone .Where does Peek and Pop even have utility?Emails and messaging?that all?
 

I7guy

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That's the point.No doubt Android will probably allow me to customise that menu which will make it a win win for everyone .Where does Peek and Pop even have utility?Emails and messaging?that all?
Considering during the day I use email extensively its quite useful, to me. It's also useful to peek at any link in safari without opening up the webpage. So yeah, it's useful.
 
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Considering during the day I use email extensively its quite useful, to me. It's also useful to peek at any link in safari without opening up the webpage. So yeah, it's useful.
for me i love 3D touch when checking the football scores.

Fotmob is great for this. I go in the app with all the scores and if i want to see who has scored/got the assist or got a booking I can check it without needing to click each game.

Same goes for yahoo sports for the NBA. Stuff like this is great easy access for stuff like sports scores.
 

Radon87000

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I dont know how this is possible but in this speed test the Pixel was running laps around the 7 Plus for nearly half of the video.Some rigging done possibly?

 
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I dont know how this is possible but in this speed test the Pixel is running laps around the 7 Plus.Some rigging done possibly?


The same YouTuber has the Pixel slaughtering the Galaxy S7 Edge exynos variant too.


There are always variables than can affect app opening in this scenarios. Was the iPhone a 32gb model with reportedly slower storage memory ? Just for one example.

The main thing to take from any of these types of videos is not who wins, just our phones are very fast and capable. No one is really complaining about the speed an iPhone or S7 or HTC 10 opens an app.

Display, eco-system, battery, audio/headphones and to an extent camera (though again in the top smartphones the camera differences are mostly moot at this point, with more similarity than differences) and generally one of the greatest factors, PRICE ....

Anyone buying a 2016 flagship or even 2015 flagship is getting a very solid peforming phone all-round.

Yet internet being internet, forum posters being forum posters, and allegiances formed - people fixate and hate on all the small differences between the devices. Addicted to defining the 'best' and most often than not the 'best' just so happens to be the device they chose ... as if validation from random strangers on a forum and the belittlement of others choices somehow matters.

Sadly as of late, all the threads seem to all become akin to cesspits, demonstrating the very tit for tat nonsense behaviour to its finest, and beyond tiresome...

So everyone engaging in the constant nonsense and turning the alternatives section into a bitter twisted hole, please stop ....
 

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Yep, gotta admit I'm almost done.
I know I can be guilty at times but it's becoming unenjoyable here, almost every thread I have an interest in becomes unreadable, using the ignore feature just messes with continuity.

I'm not afraid to say it usually the same &***'s who seem to take delight in ruining, derailing threads and mostly in a snide way.
(waits for "don't let the door hit you on the way out" or something to this effect . ..)

But they carry on uninhibited... and what can you do? It won't change, they feed off others frustration and when the mods intervene, they chill for a bit and then they're right back at it. You can't win. Ignore only makes for broken reading....

But then again, it's to be expected in this thread considering the title....
 
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Michael Goff

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The same YouTuber has the Pixel slaughtering the Galaxy S7 Edge exynos variant too.


There are always variables than can affect app opening in this scenarios. Was the iPhone a 32gb model with reportedly slower storage memory ? Just for one example.

The main thing to take from any of these types of videos is not who wins, just our phones are very fast and capable. No one is really complaining about the speed an iPhone or S7 or HTC 10 opens an app.

Display, eco-system, battery, audio/headphones and to an extent camera (though again in the top smartphones the camera differences are mostly moot at this point, with more similarity than differences) and generally one of the greatest factors, PRICE ....

Anyone buying a 2016 flagship or even 2015 flagship is getting a very solid peforming phone all-round.

Yet internet being internet, forum posters being forum posters, and allegiances formed - people fixate and hate on all the small differences between the devices. Addicted to defining the 'best' and most often than not the 'best' just so happens to be the device they chose ... as if validation from random strangers on a forum and the belittlement of others choices somehow matters.

Sadly as of late, all the threads seem to all become akin to cesspits, demonstrating the very tit for tat nonsense behaviour to its finest, and beyond tiresome...

So everyone engaging in the constant nonsense and turning the alternatives section into a bitter twisted hole, please stop ....

The only thing that gets me about the test is that the iPhone 7 has the best in terms of CPU and GPU. We don't know what the storage speed of the Pixel is, though.
 

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The only thing that gets me about the test is that the iPhone 7 has the best in terms of CPU and GPU. We don't know what the storage speed of the Pixel is, though.
It probably lost because the iPhone 7 Plus above has 32GB storage.I am kinda mad at Apple because had I known this earlier that this SSD thing also applies to the iPhone I would have gotten the 128GB model.I just hope this 7 Plus isnt slower than the 128GB 6s plus otherwise I got ripped off big time
 
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Michael Goff

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It probably lost because the iPhone 7 Plus above has 32GB storage.I am kinda mad at Apple because had I known this earlier that this SSD thing also applies to the iPhone I would have gotten the 128GB model.I just hope this 7 Plus isnt slower than the 128GB 6s plus otherwise I got ripped off big time

The 32gb model still got a read speed of about 686MB/s. And that's what would affect opening apps. Either the Pixel has a monstrous storage speed advantage, or it's something else.
 

Radon87000

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The 32gb model still got a read speed of about 686MB/s. And that's what would affect opening apps. Either the Pixel has a monstrous storage speed advantage, or it's something else.
The difference between the speeds of the 128GB 7 plus and 32GB model is a humongous 8X .The 128 GB version was beating the Pixel but by a pretty small margin except gaming.So it makes sense that with such a huge variance the 32GB version will obviously lose to the Pixel
 
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The difference between the speeds of the 128GB 7 plus and 32GB model is a humongous 8X .The 128 GB version was beating the Pixel but by a pretty small margin except gaming.So it makes sense that with such a huge variance the 32GB version will obviously lose to the Pixel
Isn't that write speed only and not really read speed?
 

Michael Goff

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The difference between the speeds of the 128GB 7 plus and 32GB model is a humongous 8X .The 128 GB version was beating the Pixel but by a pretty small margin except gaming.So it makes sense that with such a huge variance the 32GB version will obviously lose to the Pixel

The 8x is write speed, not read speed, from what I read. And write speed doesn't affect app opening.
 

Michael Goff

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I may be wrong on this one but the first time apps are opened cache data and other files are written to disk .The write speed will make big difference in such a case

Write speed determines installation speed. Once it is installed to the phone, it is all read. You're not writing the app to the cache.
 

Michael Goff

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Sorry, the iPhone 7 is still faster than the Pixel by a huge margin:


Is it really by a huge margin, though? Is somebody picking up a Pixel going to be sitting there lamenting huge loading times? Are both tests just a group of apps that work better on whatever platform the person wanted to look good?
 
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