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TimKirkwood

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Here it is as clear as I could. It is someone that looks to be sitting with one arm around the front of them and the other resting on their head with their wrist facing their face.
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This is what I see....

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Hogg

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I bet that this was digital zoom since based on my tests the optical zoom lens only works in extremely bright conditions. Still great lowlight picture.

Optical zoom. I never use digital zoom. I was in the front row.

It was optical.

That's interesting it was optical in such low light. It must have just been bright enough for the telephoto lens to work.

Apologies if you already knew this...but the reason stevejobs2.0 thought it might not be the telephoto lens, is that in low light conditions, the 7+ is not using the telephoto, even when you hit the "2x" button. Apple probably does this, due to the tele's aperture.

http://www.macworld.com/article/312...d-of-optical-more-often-than-youd-expect.html

http://m.imore.com/iphone-7-plus-telephoto-wont-shoot-low-light-situations

Looking back at that concert pic; it is easy to see it's not digital zoom, simply due to the crispness. It's a great pic.

It'd be cool if Apple had a tag at the top of the screen, indicating what lens is being used. Like a little "1.8" or "2.8" in corner :)

Cheers
 
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SteveJobs2.0

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That's interesting it was optical in such low light. It must have just been bright enough for the telephoto lens to work.

Apologies if you already knew this...but the reason stevejobs2.0 thought it might not be the telephoto lens, is that in low light conditions, the 7+ is not using the telephoto, even when you hit the "2x" button. Apple probably does this, due to the tele's aperture.

http://www.macworld.com/article/312...d-of-optical-more-often-than-youd-expect.html

http://m.imore.com/iphone-7-plus-telephoto-wont-shoot-low-light-situations

Looking back at that concert pic; it is easy to see it's not digital zoom, simply due to the crispness. It's a great pic.

It'd be cool if Apple had a tag at the top of the screen, indicating what lens is being used. Like a little "1.8" or "2.8" in corner :)

Cheers

Exactly. I haven't been able to "trick" the phone into using the optical 2x zoom in any indoor shots even with a ton of lights turned on.
 
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Hogg

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Exactly. I haven't been able to "trick" the phone into using the optical 2x zoom in any indoor shots even with a ton of lights turned on.

Same with me. I haven't been able to activate the telephoto lens at all indoors...only outside.
 

SteveJobs2.0

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Yeah, your not gonna trick the stock camera app to quickly, if ever at all. But you can always use a different camera app to allow for a manual use of the camera anytime you want.

Edit: words

I was thinking about this. Any third party app that lets you pick which lens is being used?
 

Hogg

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Yeah, your not gonna trick the stock camera app to quickly, if ever at all. But you can always use a different camera app to allow for a manual use of the camera anytime you want.

Edit: words

I noticed in the details on that concert pic...it said Instagram. Does that mean it was taken through the Instagram app? Does Instagram have its own camera interface/app?

Just curious if that's why it was optical instead of digital in that setting. Like you said...maybe a non stock camera app would allow it to use the telephoto lens in low light. Forgive me, I don't use Instagram...so I'm not sure if it uses the stock camera app or not :)
 

shanson27

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Has Apple solve the problem with the hair in the portrait mode in the second beta of iOS 10 ?
 

yoGiRLDaniE

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I noticed in the details on that concert pic...it said Instagram. Does that mean it was taken through the Instagram app? Does Instagram have its own camera interface/app?

Just curious if that's why it was optical instead of digital in that setting. Like you said...maybe a non stock camera app would allow it to use the telephoto lens in low light. Forgive me, I don't use Instagram...so I'm not sure if it uses the stock camera app or not :)

So Hogg I looked into this. Instagram does indeed have its own camera app built into it but I do not think that this picture was taken via Instagram. First off it is not square. Secondly, Instagram does not store EXIF information in there app pictures. And lastly he said he took it from his camera roll. So I am thinking it is something with Exif and how they are reading these new pictures that are coming from the iPhones and are thinking it was Instagram and it was not.

Just wanted to add this could have been the stock app that took the picture. He was on the front row and all of those lights could have been good enough for the sensor to allow the telephoto lens to work.
 
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iPhone1

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I noticed in the details on that concert pic...it said Instagram. Does that mean it was taken through the Instagram app? Does Instagram have its own camera interface/app?

Just curious if that's why it was optical instead of digital in that setting. Like you said...maybe a non stock camera app would allow it to use the telephoto lens in low light. Forgive me, I don't use Instagram...so I'm not sure if it uses the stock camera app or not :)
It was taken in the stock app, I must have picked the Instagram version of the photo when uploading. It was uploaded to Instagram unedited and not edited in Instagram as well if that helps.
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So Hogg I looked into this. Instagram does indeed have its own camera app built into it but I do not think that this picture was taken via Instagram. First off it is not square. Secondly, Instagram does not store EXIF information in there app pictures. And lastly he said he took it from his camera roll. So I am thinking it is something with Exif and how they are reading these new pictures that are coming from the iPhones and are thinking it was Instagram and it was not.

Just wanted to add this could have been the stock app that took the picture. He was on the front row and all of those lights could have been good enough for the sensor to allow the telephoto lens to work.
Taken in stock camera app, uploaded the Instagram version here which was also unedited. The concert lighting obviously helped a lot as well as my front row spot. But it was very easy to take this shot, just a few taps to set focus and exposure and it was done.
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That's interesting it was optical in such low light. It must have just been bright enough for the telephoto lens to work.

Apologies if you already knew this...but the reason stevejobs2.0 thought it might not be the telephoto lens, is that in low light conditions, the 7+ is not using the telephoto, even when you hit the "2x" button. Apple probably does this, due to the tele's aperture.

http://www.macworld.com/article/312...d-of-optical-more-often-than-youd-expect.html

http://m.imore.com/iphone-7-plus-telephoto-wont-shoot-low-light-situations

Looking back at that concert pic; it is easy to see it's not digital zoom, simply due to the crispness. It's a great pic.

It'd be cool if Apple had a tag at the top of the screen, indicating what lens is being used. Like a little "1.8" or "2.8" in corner :)

Cheers
I didn't know that. Ok, makes sense now with all the questions. Learning more about this phone every day.
 
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tallazzPilipino

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I was thinking about this. Any third party app that lets you pick which lens is being used?
^
and if you're into video, there's FiLMiC Pro...

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ProCam doesn't offer lens selection in video mode. also, it lacks a lot of video features...

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Has Apple solve the problem with the hair in the portrait mode in the second beta of iOS 10 ?
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I'm not seeing a difference. mostly had to do with animations and stuff within iMessage.
 
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Hogg

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So Hogg I looked into this. Instagram does indeed have its own camera app built into it but I do not think that this picture was taken via Instagram. First off it is not square. Secondly, Instagram does not store EXIF information in there app pictures. And lastly he said he took it from his camera roll. So I am thinking it is something with Exif and how they are reading these new pictures that are coming from the iPhones and are thinking it was Instagram and it was not.

Just wanted to add this could have been the stock app that took the picture. He was on the front row and all of those lights could have been good enough for the sensor to allow the telephoto lens to work.

Just wanted to say thanks, for the heads-up on "ProCamera". It's a great app. Tons of features. Being able to manually switch between both lenses in any lighting condition is awesome. And all the settings are actually accessible in the app itself....what a concept ;)

Cheers
 
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KnobbyRusset

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Read some comments about the stabilisation. Does this effect the image quality? Using ProCam 4 and have the option to turn it off. Anybody know?
 
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