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[bmac4]

To be quite frank, I thought it was a rather ridiculous comment too. I'd have probably characterized it the same way he did.


Dangerous? I'm not sure there is any danger per se..... That said, so you feel no innovation is better than some innovation?


I totally disagree here. The Nexus 4 does not lag and is just as "smooth" as the iPhone 5. The iPhone 5 has its stutter moments every now and again too by the way.


But what Apple does need is projects to add basic functionality such us a full bluetooth stack...



Really? Benchmarks? You who benchmarks are important to?...message board frequenters who want to brag about what device does what a fraction of a millisecond faster than another one. In today's smartphone landscape, all high-end phones are fast and have high performance, so talking about benchmarks is pretty meaningless.


What has Apple done with the iPhone in the last few years that was innovative?

Ok so I am going to start this off by saying I am not a Apple guy. I prefer android when it come to phones. With that said does Apple really have to innovate with the iPhone? Look at the sales. I talked about this in my own thread, but I think Apple and its fans think they have created the best possible phone they can. They have hit the sweet spot if you will.

Look at who Apple sells most of their phones to. It is not us tech people that need or want the lastest technology. They are selling to just an average person that wants a phone that can make calls, text people, connect to the internet, and email. Beyond those things they may or may not ever even use any of the other features. The iPhone does all those things well. Apple makes all this very easy, and they have a brand that everyone knows. Average Joe does not need innovation.

I love android because they have to innovative. I want the latest in technology. I wanted a 5 inch screen. I am not most people. I have had 3 smartphones in the last 9 months. It is very hard to get someone like me to be a loyal customer when it comes to technology. I get bored really easily, and want that brand new thing. I studied marketing in college, and I would hate to have to sell a brand to someone like me. Apple can get by without marketing to someone like me. If I buy their products that is just a plus for them.

Apple is only innovating when they have to be. Right now they don't.

 

[The iGentleman]

Ok so I am going to start this off by saying I am not a Apple guy. I prefer android when it come to phones. With that said does Apple really have to innovate with the iPhone? Look at the sales. I talked about this in my own thread, but I think Apple and its fans think they have created the best possible phone they can. They have hit the sweet spot if you will.

Look at who Apple sells most of their phones to. It is not us tech people that need or want the lastest technology. They are selling to just an average person that wants a phone that can make calls, text people, connect to the internet, and email. Beyond those things they may or may not ever even use any of the other features. The iPhone does all those things well. Apple makes all this very easy, and they have a brand that everyone knows. Average Joe does not need innovation.

I love android because they have to innovative. I want the latest in technology. I wanted a 5 inch screen. I am not most people. I have had 3 smartphones in the last 9 months. It is very hard to get someone like me to be a loyal customer when it comes to technology. I get bored really easily, and want that brand new thing. I studied marketing in college, and I would hate to have to sell a brand to someone like me. Apple can get by without marketing to someone like me. If I buy their products that is just a plus for them.

Apple is only innovating when they have to be. Right now they don't.

I didn't ask do they need to innovate to sell phones. My question was, what have they innovated in the last few years?

 

[bmac4]

I didn't ask do they need to innovate to sell phones. My question was, what have they innovated in the last few years?

No not like android, but I was trying to explain why I say no. If I did not explain people would jumped on my for hating Apple.

Now in terms of innovation for Apple. Honestly they have not really done much that pushes the envelop. Now I will give them putting Siri on the iPhone pretty innovating. Now had they created Siri that would have been a much bigger deal that just buying company and using it. Is cutting edge and innovation what Apple is all about?

 

[jrswizzle]

I didn't ask do they need to innovate to sell phones. My question was, what have they innovated in the last few years?

Nothing - there hasn't been any mobile phone innovation since 2007.....

Then again, I have a much bigger definition of innovation. I know some believe features that some use and some don't should count as innovation. Not every neat idea spawns a revolution of the industry - which is what I think true innovation brings about.

We're in the evolution stage of smartphones - its not a bad thing. The problem is people expect too much - when the reality is, its been 5.5 years since the iPhone created the smartphone boom. Only 5.5 years.....that's nothing. And its only been 3 years since the iPad.

These are incredibly short amounts of time to have gotten to where we are. That in itself is amazing to me.

 

[The iGentleman]

No not like android, but I was trying to explain why I say no. If I did not explain people would jumped on my for hating Apple.

Now in terms of innovation for Apple. Honestly they have not really done much that pushes the envelop. Now I will give them putting Siri on the iPhone pretty innovating. Now had they created Siri that would have been a much bigger deal that just buying company and using it. Is cutting edge and innovation what Apple is all about?

Siri isn't an Apple innovation as it was already available in the app store prior to them acquiring the company. They basically just took something that was already widely available to their user base, and limited it to just the 4S users (at that time). To answer your question, no they certainly are not about being cutting edge or innovation. It has long been my position that Apple sells yesterday's technology for today's prices, basically selling less for more.

 

[jrswizzle]

Siri isn't an Apple innovation as it was already available in the app store prior to them acquiring the company. They basically just took something that was already widely available to their user base, and limited it to just the 4S users (at that time). To answer your question, no they certainly are not about being cutting edge or innovation. It has long been my position that Apple sells yesterday's technology for today's prices, basically selling less for more.

People mistake a difference in philosophy for inferiority or out-dated tech.

Like I've always held - if you think that way, there are plenty of great phones out there. No reason to belittle another's choice by insinuating Apple has somehow brainwashed them into buying an iPhone.

There are legitimate reasons people (like myself) buy iPhones. And those reasons don't need to be legitimate to anyone else but the purchaser - because ultimately its a personal purchasing choice.

 

[bmac4]

Nothing - there hasn't been any mobile phone innovation since 2007.....

Then again, I have a much bigger definition of innovation. I know some believe features that some use and some don't should count as innovation. Not every neat idea spawns a revolution of the industry - which is what I think true innovation brings about.

We're in the evolution stage of smartphones - its not a bad thing. The problem is people expect too much - when the reality is, its been 5.5 years since the iPhone created the smartphone boom. Only 5.5 years.....that's nothing. And its only been 3 years since the iPad.

These are incredibly short amounts of time to have gotten to where we are. That in itself is amazing to me.

Heres the thing Apple knew their customers when they were making the iphone. They knew what was going to sell, and that was the iphone. You are iphones have evolved not really innovated. Why do they need to they just keep selling.

 

[jrswizzle]

Heres the thing Apple knew their customers when they were making the iphone. They knew what was going to sell, and that was the iphone. You are iphones have evolved not really innovated. Why do they need to they just keep selling.

Precisely.

I bet we see some big changes soon though. All this talk about iOS 7, the cheaper iPhone and a larger iPhone - I think it all happens and propels Apple forward.

Personally - I'd like for them to start (in iOS 7) by letting Yahoo's weather and stocks apps replace the defaults.....those defaults are terrible and Yahoo has put out some wonderful apps recently - Apple is already using their data, they don't compete with Yahoo - why not give them the "Google Maps" treatment and make them defaults? Would certainly prove to me they aren't letting anything fall through the cracks.

 

[bmac4]

Siri isn't an Apple innovation as it was already available in the app store prior to them acquiring the company. They basically just took something that was already widely available to their user base, and limited it to just the 4S users (at that time). To answer your question, no they certainly are not about being cutting edge or innovation. It has long been my position that Apple sells yesterday's technology for today's prices, basically selling less for more.

Yes siri was available in the app store, but no one really used it. Apple put it on the iPhone, and people went crazy over it. I am not saying they did anything special with siri they just new how to sell it. I kind of call that innovation. They knew how to market a feature that had already been available.

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Precisely.

They will innovate when they need to. I for one say it might be time, but that is cause I want them to change, but guess what they could careless about someone like me thinks. I am not a loyal iPhone user, so they need not worry about me.

 

[mattopotamus]

Yes siri was available in the app store, but no one really used it. Apple put it on the iPhone, and people went crazy over it. I am not saying they did anything special with siri they just new how to sell it. I kind of call that innovation. They knew how to market a feature that had already been available.

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They will innovate when they need to. I for one say it might be time, but that is cause I want them to change, but guess what they could careless about someone like me thinks. I am not a loyal iPhone user, so they need not worry about me.

B.c it could not perform functions on the phone....it was basically just a Q and A

 

[jrswizzle]

They will innovate when they need to. I for one say it might be time, but that is cause I want them to change, but guess what they could careless about someone like me thinks. I am not a loyal iPhone user, so they need not worry about me.

Well - given the biggest changes to the iPhone line have come in 2007 & 2010 (with the iPhone 4), we might be due for one.....

 

[The iGentleman]

Nothing - there hasn't been any mobile phone innovation since 2007.....

Out of curiosity, what innovation do you think took place in 2007? Also, please be specific.

Then again, I have a much bigger definition of innovation. I know some believe features that some use and some don't should count as innovation. Not every neat idea spawns a revolution of the industry - which is what I think true innovation brings about.

You don't have a bigger definition, you have an incorrect definition. Innovation is introducing something new that hasn't been done before.

We're in the evolution stage of smartphones - its not a bad thing. The problem is people expect too much - when the reality is, its been 5.5 years since the iPhone created the smartphone boom. Only 5.5 years.....that's nothing. And its only been 3 years since the iPad.

Smartphones have become much more capable, such that more and more web browsing is taking place on phones and less so on computers. Unfortunately, while many are progressing quite rapidly, there are others that remain stagnant.

 

[jrswizzle]

Out of curiosity, what innovation do you think took place in 2007? Also, please be specific.

I think the original iPhone - which essentially began the smartphone revolution/boom was the last innovation.

You don't have a bigger definition, you have an incorrect definition. Innovation is introducing something new that hasn't been done before.

Not necessarily - an invention would be something that hasn't existed before. I'm not saying Apple invented the smartphone (they didn't).

And even so, I'd argue Apple's iPhone introduced a smartphone to a lot of people who either were never interested/never wanted to use one before.

But I appreciate the condescending tone - the definition for innovation varies greatly depending on who you ask and where you look. Based on your definition I'd ask you who innovated in the last decade? Smartphones have been around for quite some time - does it count as innovation if something exists but no one uses it or knows its there? How is a product with little use/public awareness more innovative than one which completely changes the way people interact and live their lives? Like it or not - marketing is a big component of innovation.

If I create a time machine, but don't tell anyone about it and keep it to myself - sure its a sweet invention (and I would be credited with it), but you can't call that innovation, because the other component of innovation is its effect on the population and future tech.

Smartphones have become much more capable, such that more and more web browsing is taking place on phones and less so on computers. Unfortunately, while many are progressing quite rapidly, there are others that remain stagnant.

Ok? You are correct, they have become quite capable. But just because YOU think one is stagnant doesn't mean someone else doesn't think its wonderful. I personally can do everything I need and more on both my Nexus 4 AND my iPhone 5.

And I don't think the spec wars and redundant features (however "neat" they are) really count as huge progress.....evolutionary changes. For instance (and I was curious and skeptical at first) 1080p screens really don't mean anything in a smartphone. Comparing my iPhone 5 to the HTC One, I couldn't tell any difference looking at them side-by-side......this coming from the guy who can tell a NOTICEABLE difference between the iPhone 4S and 5 and the iPad 2 and 3.

So is something which doesn't really add any overall benefit to the user experience really major progress? Or have we kind of hit a plateau where content cant match the current hardware and uses of the devices?

 

[hexonxonx]

You can always have both, just buy an unlocked iPhone/Android and you can use either one or both. I use a 4S and a Nexus 4. Both are unlocked and I can swap the sims between the two at any time.

I honestly love both phones.

 

[The iGentleman]

People mistake a difference in philosophy for inferiority or out-dated tech.

I'd say people mistake inferiority or outdated tech for a difference in philosophy.

Like I've always held - if you think that way, there are plenty of great phones out there. No reason to belittle another's choice by insinuating Apple has somehow brainwashed them into buying an iPhone.

I have never once stated anything even remotely close to saying anyone has been brainwashed by anyone...

There are legitimate reasons people (like myself) buy iPhones. And those reasons don't need to be legitimate to anyone else but the purchaser - because ultimately its a personal purchasing choice.

Congratulations... though I don't see how that statement has anything at all to do with what was being discussed. You just brought that (and the above quote) out at random. I'm not sure why you felt the need to randomly throw out that people aren't being brainwashed, and that there are legit reasons for why people buy the iPhone, as I did not suggest to the contrary.

Heres the thing Apple knew their customers when they were making the iphone. They knew what was going to sell, and that was the iphone. You are iphones have evolved not really innovated. Why do they need to they just keep selling.

I agree with you. Apple doesn't need to innovate because they know that their customers will buy the next iPhone regardless of it lacking innovation and it being a bit archaic. If you're Apple, it makes sense to keep going to the well until it starts to run dry. If your customer doesn't demand more, then there is no reason to give them more (if they are happily willing to accept less).

Yes siri was available in the app store, but no one really used it. Apple put it on the iPhone, and people went crazy over it. I am not saying they did anything special with siri they just new how to sell it. I kind of call that innovation. They knew how to market a feature that had already been available.

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Advertising is definitely not innovation. Of course Apple can reach more people than a small developer, especially if they include the app on the phone and air commercials about it. A savvy business move? Yes. Innovation? Not in the least.

 

[jrswizzle]

You can always have both, just buy an unlocked iPhone/Android and you can use either one or both. I use a 4S and a Nexus 4. Both are unlocked and I can swap the sims between the two at any time.

I honestly love both phones.

Best of both worlds - perfect way to go if you can swing it IMO. I'm rocking an iP5 and N4 as well - fun to use both. It honestly causes me to appreciate the strengths of each and to realize that I dictate my phone usage, not the other way around - I tend to use both phones for the same tasks. Having an Android hasn't suddenly opened my eyes to all these new things I was missing on my iPhone.

Simply a different way to do things - which is refreshing from time to time. Hoping to get my hands on a GS3 and HTC One to test out some skinned experiences.

 

[mattopotamus]

damn those archaic iphones, damn them all

 

[jrswizzle]

I'd say people mistake inferiority or outdated tech for a difference in philosophy.

Well obviously we aren't in agreement. Although I think I have more evidence to back up my claims than you given the engineering required to create the iPhone 5 hardware. As for the software, I'll readily admit there are things that need changing/updating. But Android isn't perfect - there are things in 4.2.2 that drive me nuts and are seemingly simple things to fix. Both Apple and the Android OEMs have different philosophies - I don't think there's any denying that.

I have never once stated anything even remotely close to saying anyone has been brainwashed by anyone...


Congratulations... though I don't see how that statement has anything at all to do with what was being discussed. You just brought that (and the above quote) out at random. I'm not sure why you felt the need to randomly throw out that people aren't being brainwashed, and that there are legit reasons for why people buy the iPhone, as I did not suggest to the contrary.

What does this quote insinuate then about people who purchase Apple - there is a pretty prominent generalization that goes around that the iPhone is an inferior product. If Apple sells more iPhones than anyone else sells of their flagship, would that not contradict the theory that the iPhone is inferior? If it doesn't - what are you saying about the millions who purchase the iPhone? Are they being duped? Are they stupid? Are you saying those who purchase iPhones aren't as sophisticated as those who have Androids? You tell me then what you would insinuate from the below quote.

I agree with you. Apple doesn't need to innovate because they know that their customers will buy the next iPhone regardless of it lacking innovation and it being a bit archaic. If you're Apple, it makes sense to keep going to the well until it starts to run dry. If your customer doesn't demand more, then there is no reason to give them more (if they are happily willing to accept less).

Advertising is definitely not innovation. Of course Apple can reach more people than a small developer, especially if they include the app on the phone and air commercials about it. A savvy business move? Yes. Innovation? Not in the least.

There is a component of marketing and advertising necessary to bring about a true innovation.

 

[The iGentleman]

I think the original iPhone - which essentially began the smartphone revolution/boom was the last innovation.

Well that assertion was obvious in your last statement. I meant be specific about what it was that was innovative.

And even so, I'd argue Apple's iPhone introduced a smartphone to a lot of people who either were never interested/never wanted to use one before.

I agree. There were better smartphones out at the time of the iPhone's release (and before), but most people didn't even know about them, because they were only marketed through business channels as business devices. Apple took the smartphone concept, and sold it as an entertainment device. When I bought my first smartphone around '04-'05, I used to wonder why they didn't market them to the masses. I said then that whoever does that, will make a killing because they make great entertainment devices.

But I appreciate the condescending tone - the definition for innovation varies greatly depending on who you ask and where you look.

No. Maybe people have a definition that they WANT it to be, but the definition of innovation is quite clear.

in·no·va·tion noun \ˌi-nə-ˈvā-shən\


1
: the introduction of something new
2
: a new idea, method, or device : novelty
— in·no·va·tion·al adjective

Based on your definition I'd ask you who innovated in the last decade? Smartphones have been around for quite some time - does it count as innovation if something exists but no one uses it or knows its there? How is a product with little use/public awareness more innovative than one which completely changes the way people interact and live their lives?

Like it or not - marketing is a big component of innovation.

Wrong again. Marketing has nothing to do with innovation. You don't seem to understand what innovation is or means.

If I create a time machine, but don't tell anyone about it and keep it to myself - sure its a sweet invention (and I would be credited with it), but you can't call that innovation, because the other component of innovation is its effect on the population and future tech.

Yes, it would be an innovation. People being familiar with something has nothing to do with it being innovative or not. If I come up with a great new recipe/food, is the food any less good just because many people don't know about it? Of course not, the food still would taste the same regardless of who knows about it.

Ok? You are correct, they have become quite capable. But just because YOU think one is stagnant doesn't mean someone else doesn't think its wonderful. I personally can do everything I need and more on both my Nexus 4 AND my iPhone 5.

That's fine. They can think something is wonderful in its stagnated form. There is nothing wrong with that.

And I don't think the spec wars and redundant features (however "neat" they are) really count as huge progress.....evolutionary changes. For instance (and I was curious and skeptical at first) 1080p screens really don't mean anything in a smartphone. Comparing my iPhone 5 to the HTC One, I couldn't tell any difference looking at them side-by-side......this coming from the guy who can tell a NOTICEABLE difference between the iPhone 4S and 5 and the iPad 2 and 3.

I'm sorry but the One's display looks better than the iPhone 5's, and the difference is noticeable. Sorry but there is no downplaying that. As for specs, it doesn't really matter in the Apple world, because iOS is not designed in such a way that it needs horsepower like that. Due to it's lack of sophistication, there really is no need for a quad-core processor or 2gb of RAM, as the OS doesn't do anything that would really benefit from it.

Or have we kind of hit a plateau where content cant match the current hardware and uses of the devices?

I don't think specs matter as much at this point. With quad-core processors and 2gb of RAM being the norm, I don't think specs will be what will set the phones apart now. At this point, it will be more the innovations that will matter. A great example of that is Samsung's Multiview, that is an excellent addition that adds value to their phones.

 

[jrswizzle]

Well that assertion was obvious in your last statement. I meant be specific about what it was that was innovative.



I agree. There were better smartphones out at the time of the iPhone's release (and before), but most people didn't even know about them, because they were only marketed through business channels as business devices. Apple took the smartphone concept, and sold it as an entertainment device. When I bought my first smartphone around '04-'05, I used to wonder why they didn't market them to the masses. I said then that whoever does that, will make a killing because they make great entertainment devices.


No. Maybe people have a definition that they WANT it to be, but the definition of innovation is quite clear.

in·no·va·tion noun \ˌi-nə-ˈvā-shən\


1
: the introduction of something new
2
: a new idea, method, or device : novelty
— in·no·va·tion·al adjective

Based on your definition I'd ask you who innovated in the last decade? Smartphones have been around for quite some time - does it count as innovation if something exists but no one uses it or knows its there? How is a product with little use/public awareness more innovative than one which completely changes the way people interact and live their lives?


Wrong again. Marketing has nothing to do with innovation. You don't seem to understand what innovation is or means.



Yes, it would be an innovation. People being familiar with something has nothing to do with it being innovative or not. If I come up with a great new recipe/food, is the food any less good just because many people don't know about it? Of course not, the food still would taste the same regardless of who knows about it.




That's fine. They can think something is wonderful in its stagnated form. There is nothing wrong with that.


I'm sorry but the One's display looks better than the iPhone 5's, and the difference is noticeable. Sorry but there is no downplaying that. As for specs, it doesn't really matter in the Apple world, because iOS is not designed in such a way that it needs horsepower like that. Due to it's lack of sophistication, there really is no need for a quad-core processor or 2gb of RAM, as the OS doesn't do anything that would really benefit from it.


I don't think specs matter as much at this point. With quad-core processors and 2gb of RAM being the norm, I don't think specs will be what will set the phones apart now. At this point, it will be more the innovations that will matter. A great example of that is Samsung's Multiview, that is an excellent addition that adds value to their phones.

Ok.

 

[The iGentleman]

Well obviously we aren't in agreement. Although I think I have more evidence to back up my claims than you given the engineering required to create the iPhone 5 hardware. As for the software, I'll readily admit there are things that need changing/updating. But Android isn't perfect - there are things in 4.2.2 that drive me nuts and are seemingly simple things to fix. Both Apple and the Android OEMs have different philosophies - I don't think there's any denying that.

No there isn't any more evidence to "back up" your claim, than mine. It simply is a difference of perspectives. You call a failure to innovate a mere difference in philosophy, while I call it a shortcoming. As I've said to you before, some of us expect more while some of us are willing to accept and are happy with less. It is simply a preference, you are entitled to yours as I am mine.

What does this quote insinuate then about people who purchase Apple - there is a pretty prominent generalization that goes around that the iPhone is an inferior product.

It insinuates nothing. I'm not sure why you are so defensive, such that you find so-called insinuations in something that has none.

If Apple sells more iPhones than anyone else sells of their flagship, would that not contradict the theory that the iPhone is inferior?

No. It doesn't at all. Just because something sells, doesn't mean it is superior. It simply means it's popular. Many people buy the iPhone off the name alone, because that's a prominent name they are familiar with. The average person doesn't know about the capabilities of one phone over the other, hence why the iPhone can be popular even though it offers less. Most people don't require very much from their phones, so they can be quite happy with an iPhone. On the other hand, there are some that actually do require more from our phones, and the iPhone simply doesn't fit the bill.

If it doesn't - what are you saying about the millions who purchase the iPhone? Are they being duped? Are they stupid?
Are you saying those who purchase iPhones aren't as sophisticated as those who have Androids? You tell me then what you would insinuate from the below quote.

Reference the above statement.

There is a component of marketing and advertising necessary to bring about a true innovation.

Wrong again. Marketing has abosolutely NOTHING to do with innovation. If I invent a smartphone battery that lasts one week between charges, and can be fully charged in 20 minutes, it's an innovation. Whether or not it is marketed has nothing to do with it being an innovation. Marketing just lets people know about my innovation, but it does not make it an innovation.

in·no·va·tion noun \ˌi-nə-ˈvā-shən\


1
: the introduction of something new
2
: a new idea, method, or device : novelty
— in·no·va·tion·al adjective

 

[bmac4]

Well that assertion was obvious in your last statement. I meant be specific about what it was that was innovative.



I agree. There were better smartphones out at the time of the iPhone's release (and before), but most people didn't even know about them, because they were only marketed through business channels as business devices. Apple took the smartphone concept, and sold it as an entertainment device. When I bought my first smartphone around '04-'05, I used to wonder why they didn't market them to the masses. I said then that whoever does that, will make a killing because they make great entertainment devices.


No. Maybe people have a definition that they WANT it to be, but the definition of innovation is quite clear.

in·no·va·tion noun \ˌi-nə-ˈvā-shən\


1
: the introduction of something new
2
: a new idea, method, or device : novelty
— in·no·va·tion·al adjective

Based on your definition I'd ask you who innovated in the last decade? Smartphones have been around for quite some time - does it count as innovation if something exists but no one uses it or knows its there? How is a product with little use/public awareness more innovative than one which completely changes the way people interact and live their lives?


Wrong again. Marketing has nothing to do with innovation. You don't seem to understand what innovation is or means.



Yes, it would be an innovation. People being familiar with something has nothing to do with it being innovative or not. If I come up with a great new recipe/food, is the food any less good just because many people don't know about it? Of course not, the food still would taste the same regardless of who knows about it.




That's fine. They can think something is wonderful in its stagnated form. There is nothing wrong with that.


I'm sorry but the One's display looks better than the iPhone 5's, and the difference is noticeable. Sorry but there is no downplaying that. As for specs, it doesn't really matter in the Apple world, because iOS is not designed in such a way that it needs horsepower like that. Due to it's lack of sophistication, there really is no need for a quad-core processor or 2gb of RAM, as the OS doesn't do anything that would really benefit from it.


I don't think specs matter as much at this point. With quad-core processors and 2gb of RAM being the norm, I don't think specs will be what will set the phones apart now. At this point, it will be more the innovations that will matter. A great example of that is Samsung's Multiview, that is an excellent addition that adds value to their phones.

I will have to agree with you that the One's screen does look better. It is noticeable too. I wrote about this on one of my threads. Apple ever since the iPhone 4 with the retina display have been telling everyone how great their screen it. Well now we have come to the point where their PPI does not match android devices. Sure the iphone's screen looks great, but that is not to say there can't be better, and I believe there is. I think this is one area Apple thought they might dominant for a long time.

 

[Carouser]

You call a failure to innovate a mere difference in philosophy, while I call it a shortcoming. As I've said to you before, some of us expect more while some of us are willing to accept and are happy with less. It is simply a preference, you are entitled to yours as I am mine.

lmao

"It is simply a preference. I prefer good things, you prefer to settle for bad things. Why are you so upset?"

EDIT: I missed "iPhone users and Android users have different needs, that's all there is to it. Also, Android users have higher needs than iPhone users. Why are you so upset?"

See dude, you don't need to post a wall of text, I summarized it there for you.

 

[knucklehead]

I totally disagree here. The Nexus 4 does not lag and is just as "smooth" as the iPhone 5. The iPhone 5 has its stutter moments every now and again too by the way.

My Nexus 4 isn't as smooth as my iPod Touch 5, which is a generation behind the iPhone 5 processor wise. You can just go to the home screen and wiggle your finger back and forth, and the N4 lags following your finger like it's had a drink or two too many and shouldn't be allowed to drive home. I think a lot of the "smoothness" impression of the UI comes from things like the bounce back feature of iOS - it's simply more pleasant to use than hitting the jarring stop in Android. I don't consider the N4 Ui overly laggy, just not as consistently smooth as my Touch 5.

... of course some people might just have lower standards, and be perfectly content with a lesser user experience ...

One area where I've found Android to be actually bad at, is dealing with long documents. I haven't found an android PDF reader or word processor that handles scrolling or navigating to a point in long documents well at all. Perhaps KLP, better apps, or the current generation of Android super phones just being released will be better at this.

 

[tjl3]

I agree with you. Apple doesn't need to innovate because they know that their customers will buy the next iPhone regardless of it lacking innovation and it being a bit archaic. If you're Apple, it makes sense to keep going to the well until it starts to run dry. If your customer doesn't demand more, then there is no reason to give them more (if they are happily willing to accept less).

I lol'd. Just not sure why you are completely against choice and preference. My iPhone does more for me than my Nexus. I prefer the way it gets tasks done over android. I don't see why that is wrong. I wouldn't see why someone who prefers things done via android would be wrong either.

I don't accept less and I expect more. But I think iPhone is a great product. As a consumer there isn't anything android is offering to me personally that compromises the iPhone experience.