There's been a lot of discussion on exactly this in other threads.
I hope there is a plus size version
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I hope there is a plus size version
I know there’s bigger issues to be upset about in this world but using the iPhone 8 as the next SE model is ridiculous and lazy. Why even sell a SE model when the 8 is still available? This is so Apple to just use what they have and rename it. It’s a slap in the face to all SE owners especially those waiting to upgrade. Wow.
Apple won’t be selling the iPhone 8 when the SE2 is made available. If Apple didn’t make an SE2, it would be a slap in the face to every SE owner looking for a low-cost upgrade.
It's just a business strategy and it's the same one they've already done with the SE and iPad in the past
They want a low end, modern iPhone so they can sell their services as well. That's where Apples real core money is now and where their business model is shifting to - guaranteed revenue in the form of subscription services and accessories
Half of the reason they can get the price low is reusing an older design where they don't need to factor in those R&D costs, they have parts already in system, they have the supply chain sorted out to be efficient, The cost savings are downstream as well with people knowing how to repair, less training to genius bar employees, able to introduce a product at a cheaper price in other markets where higher end iPhones are not feasible for most consumers etc
It's why the SE was a reused 5s design, why the iPad 5th and 6th gen were reused iPad Air designs, why the iPad Air 3 was a reused iPad Pro 10.5", why MacBook designs are reused annually and not updated every year like some companies do
It's purely business
I understand all these 'business' reasons. We've been around Apple long enough not to be surprised especially after Tim Cook took charge. It still is a lazy thing to keep this design going and calling it the SE. Eventually, the last nail in the coffin for this button design has to happen. SE users were in love with the small screen, if they want 4.7" they would have upgraded.
Face ID, anyway....where's my phone that was promised for last friday!?
You’ll need to post that question over at Macpromises.com
Unless your hands are wet and swollen, you have little cuts on your fingertips, have a band aid on, etc. I welcome Face ID. Touch is still ok, but I don’t feel it’s superior.
Absolute statements about evolving technology clay not stay accurate in the long term.
Yeah, many people prefer phones with bezels and home buttons (I'm also among them). Nothing wrong with it! Bezel-less phones without home buttons aren't better. They're just different.
I too think the 9/SE2 will sell very well in spite of the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic.
How was it a mistake? Did that somehow affect Apple sales or the success of the iPhone with Face ID moving forward? Technology is always evolving, touch ID isn’t necessarily ‘dead’ per se, but in terms of superiority with biometric security, touch ID doesn’t touch it.
I'm hoping someone will be able to give a considered response here... The SE 2020 is often plugged as the smart budget upgrade for anyone still holding on to their 6: that would be me. Having recently moved over from a sluggish 5 to a 6, I'm still blown away with how quick the 6 is by comparison - it just *works*, seamlessly. I'm also excited by the SE 2020 though - in fact I was before I picked up the 6: how much better would my user experience be with the SE 2020?
Sure, my regular 7 is slow dog with safari crashes and constant app reloads.. and it is turbo powered machine if compared with 6
It works fine if you replace the battery but yeah, SE 2020 will definitely blow 6 and 6s away. Not only in terms of speed but also battery life
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It’s a 6, not a 6s - the battery was recently replaced, so perhaps that’s part of the reason I think it’s working well. The other reason being that my only comparison was the 5 that I was using before! I’m totally getting a 9/SE when they’re out.
Within 2-3 years of iPhone use, depending on your iPhone model and usage pattern, the batteries lose most of their initial capacity. There is no way around it, this is why Apple offers battery replacements for around 50$ in iPhone 7 case. So if your 4 year old battery has around 25-30% of its original capacity, it will charge to its “100%” and then discharge much quicker. You can get a better picture of it via CovonutBattery on a Mac, as I found Apple’s Battery stats in iPhone Settings pretty useless. If you don’t feel like swapping batteries, it might be a good idea to upgrade your iPhone after 2 years of use. 🖐
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In what way, exactly?
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There are several ways TouchID is superior and several ways FaceID is superior. Hopefully some day we will get both. For me I find TouchID much faster for my typical use case. When I pick up my iPhone (say out of my pocket) I naturally grab it and place my thumb on the button and unlock it while i'm still moving it to view. It is unlocked well before it ever needs to see my face. With FaceID you can't do that, so even if the unlock process itself can be faster the FaceID - the overall process for me is slower in most cases. It was really frustrating to me.
Also while FaceIDs false positive (works when it shouldn't) rate is better, I found its false negative rate (fails when it shouldn't) to be much worse. I no longer have a FaceID iPhone, but my iPad Pro 11 drives me crazy with "camera blocked", "face too far away", or just doesn't work especially in low light situations - like using it in bed at night. Yes I know touchID has issues when your hands are dirty, or damp etc. - but for me that is a known use case and happens far less frequently then using it in low light situations.
TouchID is superior in almost every way over FaceID. Unless Apple does both and I can disable FaceID I'm not buying one without TouchID. I have tried 11 Pro and didn't like it. Hence why I am excited about this release. Perfect well rounded phone with a bonus-> low price = win win win all win
I know. I want dual SIM, though so with the SE rumors floating around since a couple years ago, decided to just wait to upgrade.