ah ok, could be the year of no sims ;/ Not sure how this will work with networks in the UK for paygo customers
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iPhone SE 4 With Apple's Own 5G Modem 'Confirmed' to Launch in March
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Maybe it will, but hard-coded to mute.
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Apple has proven that Apple customers will buy anything Apple sells because Cook says, "Its marvelous and best ever made" at the keynote. Gotta love the minions doing as directed.
Oh yeah that's right, I completely forgot about that...
And they are probably doing that today in anticipation of this new Apple modem.
That’s why I picked up a cheap iPhone 13 as my backup. Will probably get another one since it’s cheaper than an SE
“…with outdated features such as a Touch ID button, …”
Barclays analyst Tom O'Malley and his colleagues recently traveled to Asia to meet with various electronics manufacturers and suppliers. In a research note this week, outlining key takeaways from the trip, the analysts said they have "confirmed" that a fourth-generation iPhone SE with an Apple-designed 5G modem is slated to launch towards the end of the first quarter next year. In line with previous rumors, that timeframe suggests the new iPhone SE will be announced in March, just like the current model was in 2022.
The fourth-generation iPhone SE is expected to have a similar design as the base iPhone 14, with rumored features including a 6.1-inch OLED display, Face ID, a newer A-series chip, a USB-C port, a single 48-megapixel rear camera, 8GB of RAM to enable Apple Intelligence support, and the previously-mentioned Apple-designed 5G modem.
Apple is rumored to have been working on its own 5G modem for iPhones since 2018, a move that will allow it to reduce and eventually eliminate its dependance on Qualcomm. Earlier this year, Apple extended its 5G modem supply agreement with Qualcomm for iPhone launches through 2026, so Apple still has plenty of time to complete the transition to its in-house modem. Along with the fourth-generation iPhone SE, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo previously said the so-called "iPhone 17 Air" will have an Apple-designed 5G modem.
It is unclear if Apple's first 5G modem would unlock any consumer benefits compared to Qualcomm's modems, such as faster speeds.
In 2017, Apple sued Qualcomm over anticompetitive practices and $1 billion in unpaid royalty rebates. The two companies settled the lawsuit in 2019, and Apple acquired the majority of Intel's smartphone modem business that same year. That purchase provided Apple with a portfolio of cellular-related patents to bolster its development. In another four months from now, it seems like we will finally see the fruit of this labor.
Apple announced the third-generation iPhone SE during an online event on March 8, 2022. The device looks similar to the iPhone 8, with outdated features such as a Touch ID button, Lightning port, and thick bezels around the display. In the U.S., the iPhone SE currently starts at $429, but the new model might see at least a slight price increase.
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Outdated?? The 2024 iPad mini 7 still has TouchID, i have the 6, I love TouchID !!!, never fails unlike FaceID on my iPhone and M2 iPadPro …
Yawn, another phablet. Where's the product line differentiation?
Preemptive strike. I like it. Yes I agree, there is a possibility as a first generation chip design and the first implementation of this chip there could be problems with it for customers phones.
Apple are a business, after all. In a cutthroat market with many (very good) Android-based competitors. So, of course, they want everyone to buy their most expensive offerings.
Having said that, iPhone sales don't just start and stop in September/October. They're healthy throughout the year, quarter over quarter (revenue is probably in the $50 billion range most quarters). So if customers aren't buying these "mini" phones in the numbers targeted over all quarters, I'm not sure that can all be put down to "everbody already got a big iPhone in September"...
People voted against iPhone mini, so no reason for Apple to launch another one.
What do you expect ? Apple is quite good at hardware, I would say. Their SoC is the best on the market.
Or maybe it just wasn’t ready for iPhone 16 launch
Apple is everything but desperate…
The patent system is rotten. Everything is patented nowadays…
Anyone else thinking this new SE is going to replace the iPhone 14 in the lineup for $599?
If this uses the iPhone 14 case & screen, but has a better APU (including access to Apple Intelligence), a better main camera (48 MP), a better facetime camera (as per recent rumour) why would anyone pay the premium price for the iPhone 14? The only things the iPhone 14 would have over it would be the wide angle camera and potentially satellite communication. Would Apple leave out the ultrawideband chip and Magsafe, foregoing all the ecosystem accessory sales?
Even if Apple only offered an A16 chip as per the iPhone 15, this would still likely beat the iPhone 14 offering.
I think there is a business case to be made here in making the new SE an iPhone 13 Mini with an A18, 8 GB ram and a single lens 48 MP camera as it would be an instant buy for the small but vocal group currently using a Mini 12 or 13 and don't know what they'll upgrade to and will also sell well for folks who just want the cheapest iPhone, but it won't cannibalize sales of the more expensive iPhone 14, 15 and 16 to the same extent that the currently rumored 6.1 inch iPhone SE will.
I'm guessing the first gen Apple 5G modem probably won't support mm Wave, but they can get away with not including mm Wave on the SE. If all goes well with the SE the same modem may show up in markets outside the US in the iPhone 17 series.
Modems and GPUs are two very different things. If they were easy to do, Intel wouldn't have crashed and burned (and caused apple to move away from them years ago). They then bought those same engineers and its been what almost a decade and they may finally have their own 5G modem? (which most likely will not come close to matching Qualcomm).
No such thing is necessary when the 6.1" and larger models are what the average consumer predominantly wants.
Anyone who's worked in retail knows that key specs for nearly any portable consumer electronics device is a larger display and larger battery.
You can't sell small and sleek when consumers don't mind something heavy and oversized if it offers the best battery life and the biggest and brightest display.
A <6.1" iPhone can by definition not have the best battery life and the biggest and brightest display due to size constraints.
iPhones mini would only be feasible in a market that had yet to move to something larger than 5.4" displays. That's a long time ago and not a direction we're moving towards.
Sounds like Apple should just discontinue the iPhone, add the Phone app to cellular iPads, and let people walk around with the biggest and brightest 12" displays then.
That's not where the smartphone market is heading.
Go look at what other brands are selling more and more of -More and more phablets and foldables.
People need larger and larger batteries and bigger and brighter displays for more and more content consumption.
-When in the market for a new device, by far most will consider the model that offers the most battery life and the biggest and brightest display available.
iPhones mini aren't that and can't be due to physical/technical limitations.
IMO the minis did poorly commercially not so much because of the battery life but because of the poor price differentiation. $100 seperated the 13 mini from the 13.
I think a SE4 launched today as a functionally identical 13 mini at a $429 price point would likely move in much higher volume; even with the smaller screen and battery. But of course we already know that becase the SE3 already has a smaller screen and the SE range do sell reasonably well.
I would happily pay the same price for a new mini as the “regular”
You'd be in the small minority though. People seem to take issue with paying the same amount of money to get "less". Even though technologically they're on par.
$700 v $800 wasn't enough for people. And here in australia where it was $1200 AUD vs $1350 AUD, that differentiation seemed even more miniscule.