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yep i saw that one. the iphone se compared to the xr seems to have mixed results. it beats the xr in some scenarios and loses in others (ex at 6:15 the se loses in terms of details). I'm still waiting for a decent 8 vs se video to come out because that's the one that matters at this point
 
nope once again turns out i'm right when it comes to apple being as cheap as possible and giving people the least as possible. in fact it may not even be the iphone 8 camera, they may have used the iphone 7 or 6s camera instead to save an extra $1 per iphone se.

"When it comes to detail, the iPhone SE here isn’t faring well at all as it’s evidently much worse than the iPhone 8. "
"This is a quite worrying tell-tale sign of weak optics of a camera, something is either wrong with the lenses or the phone isn’t correctly focusing "

and their conclusion : "But the biggest issue is in terms of detail retention, where the new iPhone SE more often than not performs worse than the iPhone 8. We’re not sure why this is but I’m strongly suspecting weaker optics on the new phone "

source : https://www.anandtech.com/show/15745/the-iphone-se-2020-quick-review-reinvigorated-classic/4
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and here's the proof from 1 of their photos on their site : iphone se on left iphone 8 on right. Every single one of their iphone se photos consistently had significantly worse detail under normal conditions.

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So it’s not the 8 camera then as you initially claimed. Thanks for clarifying that.
 
yea you're right i was being too optimistic about apple being cheap and using a 2 year old camera in the iphone se. it turns out they're even worse, they used a camera that is worse than a 2 year old camera found in the iphone 8. My bad for being so optimistic

Too optimistic is a euphemism for being wrong. Just spell it out and get used to it. Proven wrong. Case settled.
 
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i hope they're right. if their replacement phone does not fix this issue then it's confirmed that the sensor has been sabotaged on the se.

To the guy above, yes i know in some cases the se takes better photos, notably in very low light. What i'm saying is that in normal conditions it captures details significantly worse just like the tech review said.

Sabotaged -good one.
Who would have thought this hyperbole would get so amusing.
 
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well looking at a picture from these forums, the loss of detail seems consistent from multiple sources now, even though it can take in light better.

Top iphone 8
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Bottom pic is filled with grain, whilst iphone 8 isn't. if you zoom in to the wall, or almost anywhere in the pic the iphone se has significantly worse detail capture.
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well looking at a picture from these forums, the loss of detail seems consistent from multiple sources now, even though it can take in light better.

Top iphone 8
Bottom iphone se

Bottom pic is filled with grain, whilst iphone 8 isn't. if you zoom in to the wall, or almost anywhere in the pic the iphone se has significantly worse detail capture.
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Not identical details? Must be a different camera then. Or sample variations. Likely the former. Case closed. Mods can lock this thread then I guess.
 
well looking at a picture from these forums
Do you have a link to the source? I'm struggling to find this picture in these forums.

The top picture has completely blown the bright highlights and lost all detail there.
 
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Do you have a link to the source? I'm struggling to find this picture in these forums.

 
well looking at a picture from these forums, the loss of detail seems consistent from multiple sources now, even though it can take in light better.

Top iphone 8
Bottom iphone se

Bottom pic is filled with grain, whilst iphone 8 isn't. if you zoom in to the wall, or almost anywhere in the pic the iphone se has significantly worse detail capture.
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Yet the one with more grain is a better photo and actually clearer, as this zoomed in area shows...

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Ah, saw that thread but didn't click through to the album. The SE photo does contain more noise than the iPhone 8 in that example. But the SE does still contain more detail and sharpness. The iPhone 8 has blown the highlights and distant detail is smeared. Where did Pac-Man's nose go? Possibly due to heavy noise reduction on iPhone 8?
 
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"The iPhone SE camera module works in the iPhone 8 and vice versa. That doesn't necessarily mean they're identical though. Catch our full teardown next week."
 
i've already proved my point. i said that apple were going to be as cheap as possible and when someone said the hardware of the iphone se camera was different from the 8, i said it means that apple must have been ever cheaper than i thought and used lower quality material than the iphone 8 camera. anandtech confirmed that on their review site which u haven't even bothered to read.

Hmmmm.... here is your opening post of the thread:

Confirmed both on apples site and via twitter post.
on apple’s site when u compare the cameras of iPhone 8 and iPhone se they’re exactly the same size.
a twitter post also confirmed this.

You said nothing about Apple being cheap.

So it’s not the 8 camera then as you initially claimed. Thanks for clarifying that.

Exactly.
 
well looking at a picture from these forums, the loss of detail seems consistent from multiple sources now, even though it can take in light better.

Top iphone 8
Bottom iphone se

Bottom pic is filled with grain, whilst iphone 8 isn't. if you zoom in to the wall, or almost anywhere in the pic the iphone se has significantly worse detail capture.
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Wow, the SE blows away the 8 in that comparison. The highlights are perfectly preserved on the SE, the highlights are totally blown on the 8. The detail is much stronger on the SE as well, the 8 is a smoothed over blur in comparison.

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I read it when it was released. Want to explain the pixel pitch difference to me? No... you can’t.

Anyway, outside, SE first picture, 8 second...

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Wow, the SE blows away the 8 in that comparison too. The 8 has blown highlights and blurry details if you download those images and zoom in.
 
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LOL, I definitely didn't expect to see my photos in this thread but it's really cool to see them discussed and picked apart.

The SE did a better job than the 8 in every category but noise. In that comparison, I can say with confidence the SE and 11 most accurately captured the game room.

The game room is a difficult place to capture photos, with the dark room and bright game marquees. That makes it a really good environment to test cameras. In the past it's been a dilemma between focusing on the light bits and leaving everything else dark, or have the room visible but lit areas get completely blown out.

The SE did a fantastic job with the range of light levels that the 8 just couldn't handle. The SE also prioritizes detail sharpness over smoothness, but it's a very worthy tradeoff.

At the end of the day, the SE photo is usable despite the noise, where the 8 photo just isn't :)
 
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Thanks for taking the time to post them, some really great comparison shots. Is that your game room? Very cool and I’m a little bit jealous.
It is, thank you! 😄
I actually designed and built all the machines in that photo except for the blue Ms. Pac-Man. The three on the far end are revivals of cancelled/unreleased iterations of games. If you're curious, my site is PacificArcades.com/projects.
 
Yet they have different part numbers and other tests show the SE camera does not work with the 8.

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I'm not surprised. Apple gives different part numbers for different suppliers for the same component. We've seen this for years.

The fact that the cameras are interchangeable is the most telling.
 
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