Can you point me to where the reviews say that the SE uses the camera from the 8? because I've read a few of them and have not seen that.
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iPhone SE (2016) iPhone se has iPhone 8 not XR camera
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Sorry if it sounded dismissive as that wasn't my intention. I should of left out the "no it can't"
dynamic range looks as good as 11 pro probably it’s because of a13 . I’m definetly getting this phone , first i wasn’t sure about the dynamic range but these shots pleased me .
Side by side if your critical you could pick out a few aspects but otherwise the comparison videos I’ve seen so far look mighty impressive.
Has he done a tear-down? How does anyone know this for sure one way or the other unless there's a tear-down?
1. Apple told reviewers the SE2 uses "monocular depth estimation" to do Portrait Mode. In other words, SE2 uses computation photography because it lacks Focus Pixels. The XR/XS sensor was the first iPhone to have enough Focus Pixels to do Portrait Mode.
2. The SE2 camera lens has the exact same physical dimensions as the iPhone 8, according official Apple documentation. The XR/XS sensor is physically larger than iPhone 8 and would need a larger lens.
Apple needs to promote the SE 2 camera more. Otherwise consumers are just going to see the same ‘form factor’ from previous generations. However, the reality is, no matter how good the camera is, the consumer has to make the decision do they want a 4.7 inch display, that’s really what it comes down to. Even though I do think the camera is equally as impressive, given it’s not really the mainHighlight for this phone, the underlying reason for this phone survive is the ~$399 price point.
3. From the Engadget review, "Apple has been really cagey about what sensor it used here too, though we eventually got someone from Apple Hong Kong to confirm it isn’t same sensor found in the iPhone 11."
So, process of elimination. I guess it could be a new custom sensor for the SE. But would Apple really invest in a new part for this price point?
The video shows the iPhone 8 logic board won't work with SE2 camera. Could be the result of different suppliers or different pinouts. The SE1 camera module is not interchangeable with the iPhone 6s even though they have the same sensor.
Teardown Video Compares New iPhone SE to iPhone 8
When it comes to design, the iPhone SE is identical to the iPhone 8, featuring a 4.7-inch LCD display, thick top and bottom bezels, a single-lens rear camera, and a Touch ID Home button. Unsurprisingly, the iPhone 8 also looks a lot like the iPhone SE inside, as detailed in a teardown video...
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I was coming to post this, lol.Teardown Video Compares New iPhone SE to iPhone 8
When it comes to design, the iPhone SE is identical to the iPhone 8, featuring a 4.7-inch LCD display, thick top and bottom bezels, a single-lens rear camera, and a Touch ID Home button. Unsurprisingly, the iPhone 8 also looks a lot like the iPhone SE inside, as detailed in a teardown video...
This line is very interesting:
it's probably just apple using cheaper materials but the same camera sensor. there is 0 reason for apple to put in an entirely new camera that's the exact same size as the 8 in the se. If they wanted to put in a new camera they would have put the xr camera in it so they could sell out inventory
The mature thing to do would be to say: "sorry guys, I know I was so sure and I made it like no debate but karma has set me straight"
Instead, you are here now inventing scenarios when before you were so sure "no argument"
The teardown revealed that its different thing. Regardless of what it is, your initial claims are now invalid so be mature enough and admit it. There is nothing wrong about being wrong. What is wrong though is not to say and shift focus away.
Just a suggestion that can help you a lot
Instead, you are here now inventing scenarios when before you were so sure "no argument"
The teardown revealed that its different thing. Regardless of what it is, your initial claims are now invalid so be mature enough and admit it. There is nothing wrong about being wrong. What is wrong though is not to say and shift focus away.
Just a suggestion that can help you a lot
The mature thing to do would be to say: "sorry guys, I know I was so sure and I made it like no debate but karma has set me straight"
Instead, you are here now inventing scenarios when before you were so sure "no argument"
The teardown revealed that its different thing. Regardless of what it is, your initial claims are now invalid so be mature enough and admit it. There is nothing wrong about being wrong. What is wrong though is not to say and shift focus away.
Just a suggestion that can help you a lot
nope once again turns out i'm right when it comes to apple being as cheap as possible and giving people the least as possible. in fact it may not even be the iphone 8 camera, they may have used the iphone 7 or 6s camera instead to save an extra $1 per iphone se.
"When it comes to detail, the iPhone SE here isn’t faring well at all as it’s evidently much worse than the iPhone 8. "
"This is a quite worrying tell-tale sign of weak optics of a camera, something is either wrong with the lenses or the phone isn’t correctly focusing "
and their conclusion : "But the biggest issue is in terms of detail retention, where the new iPhone SE more often than not performs worse than the iPhone 8. We’re not sure why this is but I’m strongly suspecting weaker optics on the new phone "
source : https://www.anandtech.com/show/15745/the-iphone-se-2020-quick-review-reinvigorated-classic/4
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and here's the proof from 1 of their photos on their site : iphone se on left iphone 8 on right. Every single one of their iphone se photos consistently had significantly worse detail under normal conditions.
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So explain this... why is the Pixel pitch identical to the XR in a smaller physical size, 1.4um vs 1.8um on the 8.
I’ve got the phone in my hand, it’s leagues ahead of the 8 in detail, so either their camera is faulty from software or their isn’t the norm.
And I’m a professional Photographer... so don’t keep spouting Apple are being cheap to defer the fact you were wrong.
Top photo is SE, bottom is an 8. Both with the same lighting, indoors in less than ideal setting, no edits.
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yea you're right i was being too optimistic about apple being cheap and using a 2 year old camera in the iphone se. it turns out they're even worse, they used a camera that is worse than a 2 year old camera found in the iphone 8. My bad for being so optimistic
Clearly proven wrong and now trying to imply it’s an old camera. I’ve already posted that the pixel pitch matches the XR so it’s a completely new setup.
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Ok, I've tried but you are clearly a troll. If you see pictures from users you will clearly see that the one you quoted is simply faulty. But yeah, keep trolling as obviously you can't do any better.
When you do become mature, please refer back to this conversation and how others behaved/treated you and how you responded back. There is a good lesson here once you are ready to see it.
When you do become mature, please refer back to this conversation and how others behaved/treated you and how you responded back. There is a good lesson here once you are ready to see it.
you're a professional photographer yet you send me an image of a macro shot, which is literally the only type of photo where you can't compare fine detail? lol u can't make this stuff up.
Go outside and take 3 random photos of anything with an iphone se and an iphone 8 (not macro shots), make sure the photos are in the exact same position when you take the photos with each camera, then come back and post them here and you'll see that you're wrong. The iphone se will have worse detail retention, just like the best iphone se review on the internet has confirmed.
Can’t be bothered. Prove your point first, you started the post spouting your own beliefs as fact. You’ve been proved wrong, so instead of making up more lies and stating them as fact, go and prove the SE is worse than the 8.
In the photos I’ve sent, because I can’t go outside, you can clearly see detail in the bobbles on the eyes, the body and fluff on the flocked material from the SE. You cannot see it from the 8.