You can VERY easily recover from an ALoD provided you have OpenSSH installed. You do, don't you?
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iPhone Stuck On Reboot Apple Logo Screen
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After my first encounter last week of not being able to boot up, then unable to restore, it took 2 trips to the apple store which is a 50 min drive for me. First day no appointment, they tried to restore but it failed and told me to come back tomorrow. I had to buy a $40 old school nokia to have phone service.....Then when i went back the next day, he restored it in 5 min, citing the problem was probably itunes unable to connect to the update server. What a waste of gas. Now less then a week later I encounter the same issue! WTF. I installed NOTHING after the restore. Just basic music and my contacts.
ANYONE have any suggestions? Im going to apple store yet again tomorrow...but I cant deal with keep on having to restore on every phone reboot....
ANYONE have any suggestions? Im going to apple store yet again tomorrow...but I cant deal with keep on having to restore on every phone reboot....
hey give my last post a try, posted it in the "F!#k........." thread............
there are some reports of getting into your device without restoring. won't fix the problem of why you get the ASOD, but might save you from restoring. good luck
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I've posted the solution several times. You need to jailbreak, and install OpenSSH. If you have OpenSSH installed you can recover from an ALoD in about five minutes.
If you're unwilling to jailbreak, and can't wait for Apple to fix the problem, I'd suggest taking your phone to the Apple Store every time it happens, and demanding a replacement. Maybe once they're swimming in perfectly fine returned iPhones they'll get around to correcting this ridiculous flaw.
jwang1228 said:
I've posted the solution several times. You need to jailbreak, and install OpenSSH. If you have OpenSSH installed you can recover from an ALoD in about five minutes.
If you're unwilling to jailbreak, and can't wait for Apple to fix the problem, I'd suggest taking your phone to the Apple Store every time it happens, and demanding a replacement. Maybe once they're swimming in perfectly fine returned iPhones they'll get around to correcting this ridiculous flaw.
fix the issue entirely
i have a 1st gen iphone 8gb and i have always hacked it. once 2.0 came out and hacking was going on i was excited and i hacked it with pwnage but it kept freezing on the reboot logo and pissing me off. I FIGURED OUT HOW TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING FOREVER. When it would freeze, i had almost all of my 8gb of memory used up with music, cydia applications, itunes applications, movies. BUT this time i only put about 4 or 5gb worth of stuff on it and it never gets stuck in the reboot cycle never messes up. I LOVE IT. SO i say just put about half of what your used to putting on it and see if that helps. let me know if if does.
Patrick
i have a 1st gen iphone 8gb and i have always hacked it. once 2.0 came out and hacking was going on i was excited and i hacked it with pwnage but it kept freezing on the reboot logo and pissing me off. I FIGURED OUT HOW TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING FOREVER. When it would freeze, i had almost all of my 8gb of memory used up with music, cydia applications, itunes applications, movies. BUT this time i only put about 4 or 5gb worth of stuff on it and it never gets stuck in the reboot cycle never messes up. I LOVE IT. SO i say just put about half of what your used to putting on it and see if that helps. let me know if if does.
Patrick
I found mine stuck because I had jailbroken 2.0.1 and then updated to 2.0.2 and restored everything seemed fine. I then jail broke 2.0.2, sticking all the time. I decided to do a clean restall of 2.0.2 and not restore. Jail broke and now it doesnt stick.
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You've been lucky; available space has nothing to do with this problem. See my earlier post.
dashboarddax said:
You've been lucky; available space has nothing to do with this problem. See my earlier post.
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[edit] NM this post.
You know, it would frakin' FANTASTIC if the mobile version of MacRumors remembered sort=DESC!!
[edit] NM this post.
You know, it would frakin' FANTASTIC if the mobile version of MacRumors remembered sort=DESC!!
Har har the mac genius was too lazy to even plug in my phone for a diagnostic and replaced it (cited it was flash memory problem...isn't iphone harddrive??.....)
My question is, is firmware 2.0.1 the root of all causes? Should i just leave my pre-2.0 firmware on the phone to keep it fresh?
My question is, is firmware 2.0.1 the root of all causes? Should i just leave my pre-2.0 firmware on the phone to keep it fresh?
Seems it's not the problem
Mine got stucked with even as little as 2Gb filled on my 8Gb. So it doesn't seem to be the solution.
Anyway, I paid $400 for this device, and ending up with only half it's memory usable in order to not have it bricking would definitely piss me off...
Mine got stucked with even as little as 2Gb filled on my 8Gb. So it doesn't seem to be the solution.
Anyway, I paid $400 for this device, and ending up with only half it's memory usable in order to not have it bricking would definitely piss me off...
Maybe we're all learning to live with our problems because this thread has been pretty quiet lately. I am tired tho. Sometimes it goes a week or two just fine. But as soon as I actually start updating/using the phone everything goes to hell. I did an update yesterday that nuked my phone to the apple screen of death. I've since restored 4 times as each time at the end of my update or after trying to back up or whatever it has crashed on me again. I'm starting to think maybe it is my phone. I'm going to take it to the Apple Store today. I can't take this crap anymore. Supposedly this is all software. I'm not sure that's the case.... I'd think this thread would be larger/noisier if everyone were dealing with this.
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I don't think it's the hardware, and here's why: my iPod touch, which has worked PERFECTLY since 1.1.1, also has the ALoD problem. It first happened a day or two after upgrading to 2.0 ...
Also, I've gone through two iPhones so far, both of which have had this problem. And I have been able to recover -100%, with no data loss - by temporarily disabling the watchdog process.
So, yeah - it's a sofware problem, not hardware. That said, I would encourage you to return your phone if you have time. Since Apple doesn't seem to mind wasting our time with unnecessary restores caused by their faulty software, I think it's only fitting that we waste THEIR time returning phones that are actually not defective (but appear to be) ... The more, the merrier!
RynoZebz said:
I don't think it's the hardware, and here's why: my iPod touch, which has worked PERFECTLY since 1.1.1, also has the ALoD problem. It first happened a day or two after upgrading to 2.0 ...
Also, I've gone through two iPhones so far, both of which have had this problem. And I have been able to recover -100%, with no data loss - by temporarily disabling the watchdog process.
So, yeah - it's a sofware problem, not hardware. That said, I would encourage you to return your phone if you have time. Since Apple doesn't seem to mind wasting our time with unnecessary restores caused by their faulty software, I think it's only fitting that we waste THEIR time returning phones that are actually not defective (but appear to be) ... The more, the merrier!
Yea, I know it's most likely a software issue but I figured I'd had enough. I need to do something. lol So I went up to the Apple store today and they guy at the genius bar acted like I was telling him of some foreign iPhone disease he had never heard of. Sometimes I think I know more about Apple's products then these fools. He didn't test me phone or anything. He just said that it was probably just something that they needed to work out with the software. But he said just in case something is messed up with the hardware they'd give me a new phone. And that they did. I'm loading all my crap on it as we speak and yea... I'm fairly certain my issues aren't going to be resolved until an appropriate software fix arrives (hopefully Tuesday when the new iPods are announced).
Hopefully if we keep returning them Apple will be forced to do something about it. It just sucks that this thing has been so buggy from the get go. And none of the major blogs seem to be discussing it. Gizmodo posts more on the damn copy and paste feature then they do with the Apple logo screen of death! It's pretty frustrating....
PS: How do you disable the "watchdog process"? EDIT: After some Google-Fu I saw that this is for people with jailbroken iPhones...
EDIT: So halfway through loading all my apps it locked up. Eternal reboot. Back and square one. HORRIBLE. lol
Hopefully if we keep returning them Apple will be forced to do something about it. It just sucks that this thing has been so buggy from the get go. And none of the major blogs seem to be discussing it. Gizmodo posts more on the damn copy and paste feature then they do with the Apple logo screen of death! It's pretty frustrating....
PS: How do you disable the "watchdog process"? EDIT: After some Google-Fu I saw that this is for people with jailbroken iPhones...
EDIT: So halfway through loading all my apps it locked up. Eternal reboot. Back and square one. HORRIBLE. lol
Suck my white ass phone!
I deleted some apps and everything was cool. Went into Settings and nothing but the grey background loaded. I held down home to close it. Open it up again, same ****. I held down power and home button to force it to shut down. Then, the Apple logo of doom never went away. I'm going to have to restore it. The phone will show up in iTunes if it's in restore mode- thanks to the advice in this thread. Problem is that I purchased some apps directly to the phone and never got a chance to transfer them to my Mac.
To those who purchased apps directly to the phone, had to restore the phone and lost the apps...
When iTunes emails you a receipt. There's a link under the item that says, "Report a Problem." This will direct you to iTunes> iTunes store receipt. There you can submit a problem with that purchase. They let me redownload an app a few months ago for the same type of situation. Hopefully, they allow me to do that again with the two apps I purchased yesterday before my phone crashed today.
I deleted some apps and everything was cool. Went into Settings and nothing but the grey background loaded. I held down home to close it. Open it up again, same ****. I held down power and home button to force it to shut down. Then, the Apple logo of doom never went away. I'm going to have to restore it. The phone will show up in iTunes if it's in restore mode- thanks to the advice in this thread. Problem is that I purchased some apps directly to the phone and never got a chance to transfer them to my Mac.
To those who purchased apps directly to the phone, had to restore the phone and lost the apps...
When iTunes emails you a receipt. There's a link under the item that says, "Report a Problem." This will direct you to iTunes> iTunes store receipt. There you can submit a problem with that purchase. They let me redownload an app a few months ago for the same type of situation. Hopefully, they allow me to do that again with the two apps I purchased yesterday before my phone crashed today.
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You know, you can re-download an app at any time - you don't have to report it.
rustedshut said:
You know, you can re-download an app at any time - you don't have to report it.
hey , I know I'm new here but the watchdog thing doesn't work for me...
I ssh'ed with Winscp and did everything but when my ipodtouch was supposed to reboot and show the lockscreen, it didn't...
wtf?
help
I'm quite sure that might do the trick, the only 'little' detail might be the fact, that my pc has crashed several weeks ago and I haven't got the time to fix it...
so no music for me
and in that way, no DFU + restore for me...I'm quite sure that might do the trick, the only 'little' detail might be the fact, that my pc has crashed several weeks ago and I haven't got the time to fix it...
so no music for me
OKay, guys...
I found the solution, so for any other people messing around with the watchdog thingy, and if it still won't work after the process described above,
then SSH in your iPod touch and look for MobileInstallation, install a default file, google it for the right firmware .
ciao
Frankly i have no idea what is going on. I downloaded stuff from cydia and then charged it fully the night before yesterday, yesterday my iphone (4GB version 2.1) worked fine but it ran out of battery the same day. i tried to charge it yesterday night and it got stuck on the apple logo. i unplugged it and went to bed. today i tried to charge it again and the same thing happened. it has been in this state for more than 5 hours.
its driving me crazy.
i want to know the fastest way to save my phone. (not restore then jailbreak etc.)
its driving me crazy.
i want to know the fastest way to save my phone. (not restore then jailbreak etc.)
I jailbroke my 3g using 2.0.1. Now it got stuck at the boot up screen with the pineapple logo I can turn it off and on but its still stuck at that screen. What should I do? restore?
I can turn it off and on but its still stuck at that screen. What should I do? restore?
I followed the instructions to restore. I was able to restore it. However, the phone is back to factory condition eventhough I was able to choose the date to restore it to. Music, photo, are all in itunes but contacts are not. How can I restore the contacts and applications too?
You can VERY easily recover from an ALoD provided you have OpenSSH installed. You do, don't you?
DUDE THANK YOU!!! Last time this happenned I waited like 3 hours and it worked again but this time I had left it over night, which means 15 + hours and it still wasn't working, I did your thing and it works perfectly fine and I haven't lost anything....
I even actually just made myself an account just to thank you...god I'm so happy now, thanks again dude!
Iphone That Shows The Itunes Logo On The Screen
My iphone doesnt allow me to see my home screen
I have already reset it but it only allows emergency calls and it shows the itunes logo and a cable on the screen, insinuating that I have to connect it to itunes, but it doesnt open the page when I use the cable.
Im really worried.I have searched a lot and I havent find the answer.
Please help me -
My iphone doesnt allow me to see my home screen
I have already reset it but it only allows emergency calls and it shows the itunes logo and a cable on the screen, insinuating that I have to connect it to itunes, but it doesnt open the page when I use the cable.
Im really worried.I have searched a lot and I havent find the answer.
Please help me -