I'm sorry but this is likely the last year we will see touch ID in any iphone. The x and x plus will be what the iphone will look like going forward.
the budget iphone will be the rumoured LCD 6.1 inch iphone.
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the budget iphone will be the rumoured LCD 6.1 inch iphone.
I'm sorry but I believe you are incorrect.
In order for Apple to command the absurdly high retail price for the iPhone X it has to be commensurately superior to the 8. That's basic marketing and salesmanship.
Tim Cook said it himself- iPhone X is years ahead of other iPhone's and he meant it. Considering the most advanced feature of the X is Face ID, there's no way it will work its way down to the pedestrian models this quickly.
Those who spend premium X dollars will get the best features like Face ID, those who don't get the iPhone 8S and Touch ID and the rest of the 2010 feature set.
I'm sorry but touch ID is going and it's why the up and coming ipad is expected to ditch touch ID for face ID this year.
The only rumours from a good source who comes out with apple news says a 6.1 LCD and the OLED devices is expected for fall this year which suggests no upgrade to the 8 and 8 plus models. I fully expect them to still sell them but i can't see any upgrade to those devices this year.
It's face ID and the LCD model. Wouldn't shock me if if the LCD model is only face ID.
I hope they don’t EOL the X, but considering who has made the report it could have some truth to it.
But it is very clear Apple is over estimating it’s sales, and the article was posted on the well know Apple fan site Apple Insider, and I do believe the analyst in question is the very same analyst Mac Rumors and a LOT of its members here swear blind by when they predict new Apple devices.
So when they advise on potential new products they are wonderful, when they advise on something negative about Apple they are flat out wrong and talking click bait? Typical attitudes round here....
http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti...s-it-to-be-end-of-life-when-replacements-ship
Yeap, Cook has overall massively increased pricing across the entire range over the last few years. And reduced costs. But plenty in here are quick to defend that pricing and cost cutting.
Just wait till we see the iPhone X Plus starting from ‘1200 or 1300,!
But it is very clear Apple is over estimating it’s sales, and the article was posted on the well know Apple fan site Apple Insider, and I do believe the analyst in question is the very same analyst Mac Rumors and a LOT of its members here swear blind by when they predict new Apple devices.
So when they advise on potential new products they are wonderful, when they advise on something negative about Apple they are flat out wrong and talking click bait? Typical attitudes round here....
http://iphone.appleinsider.com/arti...s-it-to-be-end-of-life-when-replacements-ship
Yeap, Cook has overall massively increased pricing across the entire range over the last few years. And reduced costs. But plenty in here are quick to defend that pricing and cost cutting.
Just wait till we see the iPhone X Plus starting from ‘1200 or 1300,!
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First, the only numbers that matter are the numbers listed in two weeks. At which point, we can determine how off these analysts really are.
However, The focus is on this specific link posted by the OP. These analysts are mud slingers ( of all analysts) . They can predict what they want and how they want without validation. They feed off generated numbers and usually it's numbers that are not indicative the success of the iPhone in general, which how many times they are wrong Over right.
It is the same analyst. Folks here eat up what he says when it's positive for Apple but do a 180º turnaround on him when he says something negative about Apple.
Couldn't agree more.
When Kuo's predictions about Touch ID and production ramp turn out accurate, people suggest he works for Tim Cook and is Apple's mouthpiece. When he suggests demand isn't as strong for the new iPhone and EOL is a possibility, it's suddenly fake news.
For those reading carefully, keep in mind that Kuo is not predicting Q4'17 numbers. He already forecasted those back in November as being strong. This article is about 1H'18 shipments being weak.
Don’t you think they run the risk of alienating the lions share of their user base by not bringing out a standard size iPhone this year? A 6.1” iPhone is an acquired taste and large phones don’t appeal to a lot of people. I couldn’t carry a phone that big around I know that. The 4.8” form factor has been so popular I just can’t imagine them dropping it?
I guess Ming-Chi Kuo is only popular on here if he is 100% positive in his predictions? It’s funny how the reception of his articles changes depending on if it supports what people want to read.
I would not be at all surprised by what is said in that article. The fact I haven’t seen an iPhone X in 2 months shows it’s not as popular as previous models. I work often in a capital city too. I hope Apples plan to crap all over their loyal consumers with higher priced stagnant innovation comes to an end this year.
I would not be at all surprised by what is said in that article. The fact I haven’t seen an iPhone X in 2 months shows it’s not as popular as previous models. I work often in a capital city too. I hope Apples plan to crap all over their loyal consumers with higher priced stagnant innovation comes to an end this year.
In the U.S., the sales mix for iPhone 8 and 8 Plus was nearly 50/50. In China, there is a much stronger affinity towards Plus models.
The 6.1" makes perfect sense as a mainstream replacement for the old 4.7" and 5.5" models. The form factor is a little larger than the 4.7" and slightly smaller than the 5.5" Plus model.
It’s certainly not 50/50 in my country and I don’t think it’s a market that can be ignored. Larger phones are an acquired taste and for those with iPads there is an even lesser need. If phones go huge then they cease being mobile to me. What’s the point owning a phone I won’t carry around? It seems short sighted to me.
Consumers who absolutely want the small 4.7" form factor can purchase the updated 5.8" model as the two are virtually identical in footprint.
Will the 6.1" model be a compromise for those wanting a small phone? Probably. But at the same time, Apple will be offering Face ID in the 6.1" for under $800.
The larger 6.1" form factor helps Apple reduce cost because they're able to use a rectangular battery and conventional logic board. Compare this with the L-shaped battery and stacked logic board found in the iPhone X.
Well Cook is certainly entitled to his opinion on this but if consumers disagree and don’t buy it in the numbers they were expecting, something has to give. The market reacts at the end of the day and there is no question the price increases on iPhones have made sales of iPhone 6S’s and 7’s boom over the past few months. Average iPhone users are starting to realise you don’t need to spend a grand on an iPhone these days to get a good phone. It’s down to if the consumer fancies it, rather than needs it as all iPhones offer the iOS experience and the difference between devices is no longer huge.
I think Cook is maintaining this viewpoint as long as the X is the current best iPhone in order to try and boost appeal. Come September he’ll be stood on the stage telling us the cheaper variant is delivering what we need. It’s all marketing strategy.
I thought the 6.1” was rumoured to be the cheaper device though? The cheapest model will be the most appealing for obvious reasons. Currently 4.7” owners have chosen it for size and price and if the closest to that is a £1k iPhone, I think that’ll put people off like the X has.
The difference now between a standard iPhone and the Plus is only £100 so the defining factor here is size not price because they are too close. Forcing people to pay more because they want a smaller phone will just continue to drive people to buy older models like the X has done so far.
The expected price for the 6.1" model is $649-$749.
Current 4.7" owners can choose between the cheaper 6.1" or the updated 5.8" for $999. I strongly suspect Apple has taken form factor into consideration before choosing 6.1". Yes, the model will be larger than 4.7" but not significantly so.
If you look at Apple's nearest competitors: Samsung and Huawei, their premium lineup includes 5.8", 5.9", 6.2" and 6.3" models. Apple's 6.1" falls right in the middle.
I could probably live with it being a few mm bigger but a lot of the appeal of the 4.7” is the one handed use aspect. I do that a lot when holding my children and with my job. I suppose times are changing.
I’m not interested in paying £999 for a phone so i’ll either see just how big the footprint of the 6.1” is or upgrade to an 8 in September. It’s weird how I used to automatically upgrade to the latest and greatest but in 2018 there are so many trade offs it’s now a difficult decision.
They won’t do away with the X or at least it’s features. Apple might bring back Touch ID if they can get it under the screen but won’t go back to an all design when the rest of the industry are doing bezeless designs.
The iPhone X is a tenth anniversary issue... I doubt that it’s going to morph into anything else
The only way X will be EOL-ed this year is if there is an upgrade with an identical design, but improved internals. Like, when 5S replaced the 5, and 4S was still selling. Or how iPad Pro 2nd gen replaced the 1st gen. Apple either replaces one model with a more advanced one of the same design, or keeps both.
Most likely, they will not sell X and X II (whatever it's called) side by side, because that would mean they have to drop the X tech in price. I don't think the key technologies like Face ID or OLED screens are going to be advanced so quickly, so that "last-year tech" can drop in price. Most likely, Apple will improve certain things and replace the X with a new X that has a faster CPU, better cameras and that's it. My guess is, the Face ID tech will stay the same this year, and Apple will sell minor upgrades of X and 8 (the "S" versions) this year. X "Sequel" will probably replace the X while 8S will sell alongside 8 and 7 (7 replacing the 6S). We might get an SE 2 that will replace the SE.
If that is EOL, then ok, but that has nothing to do with "poor sales". It has everything to do with the fact that Apple is probably not going to offer "last year's X" for $100 less. Sure, I could be wrong, perhaps they sell both X and X Sequel, but I doubt it. Either way, it's not EOL because of "low demand" - there is absolutely 0% truth about that. Zero.
My guess: this year: 7, 8, 8S and "X II" or, perhaps, 7, 8S and "X II" (8S replaces the 8). Next year: 8S, "X II" and an evolved design for "X III" with, possibly, improved Face ID tech. Year after that: no more Home button/Touch ID iPhones. Transition complete.
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They won't.
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I don’t think the suggestion EOL meant abandoning all the tooling investment Apple have made with the X. More likely focusing on the next generation rather than building up stock of phones that have a limited market. The next generation will probably look identical to the X anyway but the internals will mean it can be marketed as the new device.
‘If’ sales have been poorer than expected then it makes little sense to continue churning out iPhone X’s that are only going to be destined to reduced contracts post September 2018. Apple would be smart to cut production to meet actual demand and focus manufacturing chains to the 2018 iPhone.
Has Apple taught you nothing after 40 years? “Cheaper” isn’t a word in Apple’s dictionary.
There seems to be some confusion in Apple’s smartphone segment so let me clarify for you:
The days of subsidized iPhones are over and it wasn’t Apple giving them away for $0 it was the carriers. Apple has been selling $800 iPhones since 2008. The free ride was paid for by mobile providers in an arms race to build a subscriber base. A decade later, that war is over and we all pay real money for our phones now.
Next, handset growth is slowing because innovation has plateaued and people are keeping their phones for longer periods. When that happens in the consumer electronics world the manufacturers batten down the hatches, stop focusing on volume, and turn all attention to maximizing profitability. Unit sales fall like a stone but unit profit soars and that’s how they thrive in a matured market.
This drama about Apple “forgetting its core customer” and being “terribly overpriced” isn’t some mistake. It’s Apple’s entire business model since 1980. They don’t make cheap notebooks, they don’t make cheap watches, they aren’t making cheap iPhones. They never did.
I’ve said this probably more than 10 times since December but we’ve always paid for iPhones in full. The subsidies in the past have been on the tariff but that has got cheaper in recent years. We never had free or £99 iPhones here so that point doesn’t apply to everybody commenting here. Apple have made cheaper products to suit demand previously so I have learned something from them quite clearly. If the 6.1” iPhone materialises then your stance looks silly.
Time to see the bigger picture and accept Apple hasn’t got as big as it has only selling to a small number of people. It’s a bigger brand than ever appealing to many demographics. Apple are not going to sacrifice their popularity for the short term.
I’ve not seen one either outside a shop! I know of a few who have bought the 8, but no one with an X.
I talk on other forums and in those sites iPhone threads people, and these are Jo Bloggs users, are genuinely upset with Apple and it’s battery scandle, I think that will prevent a few sales, because the X is expensive how ever you buy it, and people are going to be more inclined to not think it’s worth the money if Apple will slow it down after a year.
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Apple have now been using the same design with different internals for 4 years! So your first paragraph will most likely come true going by Apples current business plan.
As said I hope they don’t EOL it and cut its price by 200 instead, but I also won’t be surprised if they do EOL it or only cut its price by 100.
When the 8 and 8 Plus came out, Apple reduced the 7 and 7 Plus by pathetic small amounts. This is also their business plan.