iPhone X iPhone X Flakegate? iPhone X Space Grey Finish Flaking

[fischersd]

I really wouldn't have posted that....at all. The author of that article is doing the same thing - using pictures off of the internet.

The first picture appears to be from inside the Apple store - notice the tether on the back of the phone and the grain of the table behind? Demo units get beaten all to hell.

Second picture - it could be the PVD coating is pealing (could also be photoshop). But, given the millions of these that are being produced, I'm not surprised that there's defects. Going to happen.

The third picture is a silver phone showing the scratches on a regular stainless steel edge. We've seen this with the Apple Watch. Nothing new here folks. Buff out the scratches and carry on.

Non-story.

 

[booksbooks]

You are starting a thread and making allegations you can’t substantiate.

You are making claims no one else has.

What is your agenda?

What allegations have I made that I can't substantiate.

Also, what is your agenda.

FYI, I have read other articles on this that refer to the paint flaking. I cannot state how true these reports are. But at this time, there's no evidence that they're not.

Recently, there are some photos on the internet shown that iPhone X paint flaking off from the middle frame,

Why space gray iPhone X paint flake?

The middle frame of iPhone X has two different production processes, the silver version is made of stainless steel with polishing technology, and space gray version is made of stainless steel with PVD technology. The color of the silver version middle frame is the metallic color so the paint flake only happens in the space gray iPhone X.

https://webcache.googleusercontent....-off/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=safari

 

[fischersd]

What allegations have I made that I can't substantiate.

Also, what is your agenda.

FYI, I have read other articles on this that refer to the paint flaking. I cannot state how true these reports are. But at this time, there's no evidence that they're not.

Recently, there are some photos on the internet shown that iPhone X paint flaking off from the middle frame,

Why space gray iPhone X paint flake?

The middle frame of iPhone X has two different production processes, the silver version is made of stainless steel with polishing technology, and space gray version is made of stainless steel with PVD technology. The color of the silver version middle frame is the metallic color so the paint flake only happens in the space gray iPhone X.

https://webcache.googleusercontent....-off/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=safari

Please stop calling it paint. It isn't.

Thanks for posting that link. We now see that whomever it is has managed to remove the coating on both sides of their SG iPhone X.

That look like the work of a bench grinder to anyone else?

 

[MinEderPlayz]

The first picture appears to be from inside the Apple store - notice the tether on the back of the phone and the grain of the table behind? Demo units get beaten all to hell.

I was going to say this. I've seen this picture a few days ago on reddit and it was indeed a demo unit. A lot of people seem to be unable to put the phone back on their docks without banging it against the connector a couple of times and scratching it up in the process. This might be an issue for a regular dock user after a year but definitely not after a week.

I'm going the Qi route though so that's not a concern for me either way

 

[tromboneaholic]

What allegations have I made that I can't substantiate.

Also, what is your agenda.

FYI, I have read other articles on this that refer to the paint flaking. I cannot state how true these reports are. But at this time, there's no evidence that they're not.

Recently, there are some photos on the internet shown that iPhone X paint flaking off from the middle frame,

Why space gray iPhone X paint flake?

The middle frame of iPhone X has two different production processes, the silver version is made of stainless steel with polishing technology, and space gray version is made of stainless steel with PVD technology. The color of the silver version middle frame is the metallic color so the paint flake only happens in the space gray iPhone X.

https://webcache.googleusercontent....-off/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=safari

The first article never mentioned flaking.
The second post you linked to is poorly translated, but says not to keep the iPhone with sharp objects that can scratch it.

No one but you is claiming it just easily flakes off.

 

[booksbooks]

The first article never mentioned flaking.
The second post you linked to is poorly translated, but says not to keep the iPhone with sharp objects that can scratch it.

No one but you is claiming it just easily flakes off.

Ah, got you. I was just waiting for you to put up a strawman, which is what you just did.

YOU SAID: No one but you is claiming it just easily flakes off.

I NEVER SAID THAT. PERIOD.

 

[tromboneaholic]

Ah, got you. I was just waiting for you to put up a strawman, which is what you just did.

YOU SAID: No one but you is claiming it just easily flakes off.

I NEVER SAID THAT. PERIOD.

That was the premise of this thread, and you explicitly used that phrase in your first post.

 

[MinEderPlayz]

If it's true, and if the surface is easily flaked, it reminds me of the early Titanium PowerBooks that flaked bad.

Now, does anyone want to partner on an iPhone X refinishing business?

Ah, got you. I was just waiting for you to put up a strawman, which is what you just did.

YOU SAID: No one but you is claiming it just easily flakes off.

I NEVER SAID THAT. PERIOD.

Ahem.

 

[tromboneaholic]

I really wouldn't have posted that....at all. The author of that article is doing the same thing - using pictures off of the internet.

The first picture appears to be from inside the Apple store - notice the tether on the back of the phone and the grain of the table behind? Demo units get beaten all to hell.

Second picture - it could be the PVD coating is pealing (could also be photoshop). But, given the millions of these that are being produced, I'm not surprised that there's defects. Going to happen.

The third picture is a silver phone showing the scratches on a regular stainless steel edge. We've seen this with the Apple Watch. Nothing new here folks. Buff out the scratches and carry on.

Non-story.

Good catch. “Abusegate” was my initial reaction.

 

[booksbooks]

That was the premise of this thread, and you explicitly used that phrase in your first post.

No, you will not get away with putting up a strawman. I was very specific and clear in my language in my first post. And to remind you, and to shutdown your strawman (you clearly like to hijack threads and argue on the Internet), this is what I said in my first post:

I guess time will tell with more data and information whether this is a real problem or not, but this person's Space Grey iPhone X's surface is terribly flaked. If it's true, and if the surface is easily flaked, it reminds me of the early Titanium PowerBooks that flaked bad.

So what I said was not that it IS easily flaked. I said that if it's true what was posted, and given more data and information to support this, and if the surface of the iPhone X is found to be easily flaked, then, and only then, could one draw an inference that this could be a problem.

 

[Pez555]

One of the reasons why I went silver, knew there would be issues with visible nicks or bumps on the space grey frame.

Any bumps or scratches can be buffed out of the silver model with metal polish. Plus it looks better anyway.

 

[tromboneaholic]

No, you will not get away with putting up a strawman. I was very specific and clear in my language in my first post. And to remind you, and to shutdown your strawman (you clearly like to hijack threads and argue on the Internet), this is what I said in my first post:

I guess time will tell with more data and information whether this is a real problem or not, but this person's Space Grey iPhone X's surface is terribly flaked. If it's true, and if the surface is easily flaked, it reminds me of the early Titanium PowerBooks that flaked bad.

So what I said was not that it IS easily flaked. I said that if it's true what was posted, and given more data and information to support this, and if the surface of the iPhone X is found to be easily flaked, then, and only then, could one draw an inference that this could be a problem.

Your thread title claims it’s flaking.

It’s clearly not flaking, but being scratched off — actually intentionally abused as a demo unit.

End of story.

 

[maflynn]

Your thread title claims it’s flaking.

It’s clearly not flaking, but being scratched off — actually intentionally abused as a demo unit.

End of story.

No, I don't think you can make that conclusion. You know what it looks like? The issue that plagued the MBPs, that is the reflective coating that was flaking off on some MBPs. People accused the owners of mishandling and abusing their MBPs but in the end, apple accepted responsibility. That coating coming off the iPhone looks just like that, so its quite possible its an issue.

Since we've only had this one report, I'm inclined to think it was a manufacturing problem with that one phone. Time will tell if its design issue or not

 

[ZipZap]

Your thread title claims it’s flaking.

It’s clearly not flaking, but being scratched off — actually intentionally abused as a demo unit.

End of story.

You're just playing with words. It likely bubbled and cracked. Then, yes once the bubble cracked it was scraped away to avoid becoming splinters.

Whats the difference between flaking and scraping...nothing. It is a bad plating and defective unit.

I do agree with other posts that iPhones are not durable.

 

[tromboneaholic]

No, I don't think you can make that conclusion. You know what it looks like? The issue that plagued the MBPs, that is the reflective coating that was flaking off on some MBPs. People accused the owners of mishandling and abusing their MBPs but in the end, apple accepted responsibility. That coating coming off the iPhone looks just like that, so its quite possible its an issue.

Since we've only had this one report, I'm inclined to think it was a manufacturing problem with that one phone. Time will tell if its design issue or not

Did you read the thread or just reply to the last post?

 

[mattopotamus]

It is clearly a defective coating. Just replace the phone, problem solved.

 

[fischersd]

You're just playing with words. It likely bubbled and cracked. Then, yes once the bubble cracked it was scraped away to avoid becoming splinters.

Whats the difference between flaking and scraping...nothing. It is a bad plating and defective unit.

I do agree with other posts that iPhones are not durable.

Well, we've seen the PVD DLC coated Apple Watch is incredibly durable. True, by all accounts this is a different coating than what's on the watch, but we also didn't see any reports of bubbling or flaking with the watches.

I'm not ruling out this being a manufacturing defect, but the way that these gaps in the coating are in the centre of each band...carefully avoiding getting all of the way to the edge - really makes it look like they used the brush wheel on their bench grinder to achieve this result.

Edit: Is the frame one piece or four pieces? If it's 4 pieces, then having 2 pieces defective on the same iPhone (when we haven't seen other reports) is pretty indicative of tampering by the end user.

 

[Newtons Apple]

Until I hear of more flaking, I will not think this a thing.

We will all know for sure soon. It will unfold here.

 

[maflynn]

Did you read the thread or just reply to the last post?

I read it

Edit:

True to form, though people seem to attack the person saying they did it when it comes to apple products and that's my point the flaking looks much like that of the MPB issue I referenced. The knee jerk reaction for many people is to its not apple's fault but the person.

 

[tromboneaholic]

I read it

So what do you think about the photos from the original article that show it’s a demo unit?

Have you ever been to an Apple Store and seen some of the vandalism that people do?

With 6.5 million iPhone X activated from Nov 3 - Nov 5, I’m sure the reports would be rampant if this was a real issue.
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I read it

Edit:

True to form, though people seem to attack the person saying they did it when it comes to apple products and that's my point the flaking looks much like that of the MPB issue I referenced. The knee jerk reaction for many people is to its not apple's fault but the person.

No one is saying it’s a person’s iPhone and blaming them.

It seems you haven’t read the thread, and are having your own knee jerk reaction, in my opinion.

 

[maflynn]

So what do you think about the photos from the original article that show it’s a demo unit?

Have you ever been to an Apple Store and seen some of the vandalism that people do?

With 6.5 million iPhone X activated from Nov 3 - Nov 5, I’m sure the reports would be rampant if this was a real issue.

I didn't say it was a real issue, all I said was it looks like an issue with the MBP, and mentioned how quickly people make excuses for apple and say it was the person not apple's fault.

It may very well be the person, and I also said since we've not heard of any other case, it could be just a defect in this one phone.

 

[Gryzor]

True to form, though people seem to attack the person saying they did it when it comes to apple products and that's my point the flaking looks much like that of the MPB issue I referenced. The knee jerk reaction for many people is to its not apple's fault but the person.

Sometimes being too diplomatic and not opinionated can be a real turn off.

Did you read the article then, because that doesn't mention anything about flaking being an issue? The bottom line is, that phone has been abused on purpose to show what it's like under the coating, and no surprise, it's silver. Whoda' thunk it? Quite clearly it's not Apple's fault, and even if one out of a million did flake either after dropping or scratching or otherwise, I'd hardly call that an "issue" that's worthy of Apple's blame. If I scrape my car past a wall and get a scratch in the paint, who's fault is that? Car manufacturer? Wall builder? No, it's mine.

 

[tromboneaholic]

I didn't say it was a real issue, all I said was it looks like an issue with the MBP, and mentioned how quickly people make excuses for apple and say it was the person not apple's fault.

It may very well be the person, and I also said since we've not heard of any other case, it could be just a defect in this one phone.

Which phone? The silver one or the space gray? No one but OP claimed it was flaking.

I am blaming OP for trying to create controversies where none exist. Your knee jerk reaction was to take his side.

 

[maflynn]

Did you read the article then

Yes

ecause that doesn't mention anything about flaking being an issue?

All I said it resembled the flaking issue that's all. My personal observation.

 

[The Game 161]

unless it happens with others then just put it down to a defective unit