iPhone X iPhone X users - do you miss Touch ID?

[j800r]

I just wanna say it’s completely pitch black in my room atm and FaceID sees me no problem. Considering this is brand new technology I’m really excited for it moving forward.

 

[44267547]

I just wanna say it’s completely pitch black in my room atm and FaceID sees me no problem. Considering this is brand new technology I’m really excited for it moving forward.

I actually think Face ID seems to work fairly well in the dark. Part of the reason why is because there is no other surrounding light to interfere with the sensors when it's solely focusing on your face.

 

[bushman4]

While TouchID was great and I felt comfortable with it , Face ID seems to be a step forward and works very well

 

[aevan]

But there is no alternative to breathing. I don't even think humans can force themselves not to breath even if they tried. Even when you sleep, you're breathing and you're not even aware of it. Unless you drowned, suffocated because you were trapped in a plastic bag or were at such a high altitude that there was literally no oxygen to breath in, then you woukd stop breathing. So there really is no option and no trade off to breathing. But there is an alternative to Face ID.

My point is, most of the answers in this thread only tell half the story. Sure Face ID may be more convenient than Touch ID, but the cost of that convenience is that you lose convenience on the flip side when you need to access control centre several times a day.

If you asked two business owners how much they grossed in a year and buiness owner A showed his books which disclosed sales of $100,000 per year and business owner B's books disclosed sales of $150,000 per year, you would conclude there and then that business B was the more successful business. But you'd be foolish to buy that business based on sales alone because you don't know what each incurs in expenses to generate those sales. If you then wised up and asked both owners to disclose their costs, and A's costs were $20,000 and B's costs were $72,000, only then can you draw a conclusion on which business was more profitable.

Asking X users if they think Face ID is more convenient without factoring in the trade-off is, in my opinion, misleading to the non X user. Let's face it, Touch ID was not that bad, we all loved it, it was fast, accurate and just worked. Is Face ID so much faster and that much more convenient that it is worth the extra hassle of swiping down from the top every time you want to check your battery? I'm not sure about that. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. It will come down to preference. But certainly to not even acknowledge the inconvenience on the flip side is only telling half the story. I know one thing, swiping down often enough if you're desperate to know your battery percentage will flatten it quicker.
Where's the convenience in that?

Again, the answers in this thread only tell half the story.

If, strictly, we're only interested in Face ID over Touch ID, then sure, Face ID may be more convenient for some, or even most. But anyone who doesn't look at the complete picture is only being foolish.

That’s very nicely put and I agree - for people curious in Face ID, perhaps thinking of bying the X - all sides of the product should be presented.

However, listing faults may paint a wrong picture to an inquiring person. It’s like adding “but” after an apology: sure, most apologies aren’t 100% unconditional but saying “but” after “I’m sorry” makes the whole thing sound insincere.

The real topic here is not (in my opinion) tied to a comprehensive analysis of Face ID technology; instead it is the answer to a simple question: “At the end of the day, will I miss Touch ID if I get an iPhone X?” and I think the answer is: no, not at all. Does that mean Face ID is perfect? No, but nothing is.

Thank you for the nice reply, I do agree with most of what you said, and you said it in a very nice way.

 

[Harmonious Zen]

I don’t miss it one bit. Face ID works so well that I haven’t given Touch ID a bit of thought.

Sorry; take the back. The only time I do miss it is when my phone is on a table and I just want to check something at an angle without picking up the phone. But that happens so rarely that it’s hardly a problem.

 

[xsimplyjosh]

I dont mind the missing touch id. I adapted pretty quickly. Heck i even tried my moms iPhone 8 and i was still pretty familiar with it. Touchid was quintenssential, control centre i know is from the bottom up straight away...

 

[newellj]

My point is, most of the answers in this thread only tell half the story. Sure Face ID may be more convenient than Touch ID, but the cost of that convenience is that you lose convenience on the flip side when you need to access control centre several times a day.

I seem to be one of relatively few people who do that a lot. I want to point out that Apple could -easily- have dealt with this by using a corner swipe up from either the lower LH or lower RH corner, instead of a swipe down from the upper RH corner. 99% of users are physically adept enough to be able to manage a bottom swipe up from a corner swipe up.

The real topic here is not (in my opinion) tied to a comprehensive analysis of Face ID technology; instead it is the answer to a simple question: “At the end of the day, will I miss Touch ID if I get an iPhone X?” and I think the answer is: no, not at all. Does that mean Face ID is perfect? No, but nothing is.

I think you're probably exactly right. I am still mostly unsold on FaceID as a TouchID replacement (though I've learned a lot reading complaints about TouchID in this thread. At the end of the day, as you say, I suspect most users will not miss TouchID, and the question is whether Apple will keep TouchID tech in future phones, either due to cost or because a die-hard core of users strongly prefer TouchID.
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I just wanna say it’s completely pitch black in my room atm and FaceID sees me no problem. Considering this is brand new technology I’m really excited for it moving forward.

I actually think Face ID seems to work fairly well in the dark. Part of the reason why is because there is no other surrounding light to interfere with the sensors when it's solely focusing on your face.

Yes, FaceID illuminates your face with IR light, so darkness is not an issue.

 

[bruinsrme]

Revisited this thread again this morning. I’ve been thinking that I now pick up the phone and swipe.
Not even thinking about it.

 

[super chimp]

I am honestly confused with comments like this - and I don’t want to argue or anything, just expressing my confusion.

For me, Touch ID is completely unreliable. Maybe it’s my fingers or something, but every time the weather changes, every time my hands are damp, and several times a week without any good reason - Touch ID would fail. At best, it works around 80% of the time, at worst it’s around 40-50. And I had it on my iPhone, and still have it on iPad Pro and MBP - all 2nd gen Touch ID.

And not just me, that has been the experience of several of my friends. We even nicknamed Touch ID as Repeat ID, because you always have to try several times to get it to work.

Face ID, on the other hand, failed only when I got out of the bed this morning and that’s it. It’s consistenly reliable.

So, I believe you feel the way you do and maybe your experience is different (biometrics are different with different people), it’s just really strange to me.
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Sure it does, but so do bigger screens or even faster chips. We live in a physical world and heck, even.... breathing has some tradeoffs, when you think about inhaling every dust particle, potential airborne virus or bacteria around you. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t breathe Or that Face ID isn’t vastly superior to Touch ID because (in my opinion, feel free to disagree) it most definitely is.

Well for me it was incredibly reliable, I would say 97-98% reliable, whereas Face ID for me I would say has only been reliable about 75-80% of the time, and I can only speak from personal experience on this.

 

[aevan]

Well for me it was incredibly reliable, I would say 97-98% reliable, whereas Face ID for me I would say has only been reliable about 75-80% of the time, and I can only speak from personal experience on this.

Interesting. I guess it shows how the effectiveness of biometrics is different for different people.

For example, Touch ID is more reliable for me when I use my index finger then when I use my thumbs. I guess the skin changes (wrinkles) faster on my thumbs? No idea.

 

[Kleverguy]

Yes, I do miss it. Coming from the 6S. Had it since launch. I've adjusted how to use it. Remembering to hold it a certain distance. I have been impressed with the speed and that it works in pitch black. But I often have to either rescan or enter the passcode when I'm laying down or sitting (with phone resting on the table). That's added time to unlock. So when people say it's faster, sure, when it works. But in aggregate, for me, no. I've spent more time putting in passcodes in the last two weeks with the iPhone X than I did during the 2 years I owned the 6S. I'm happy with the device otherwise. I'm not returning the phone. I'm just going to adjust.

Yes, my experience as well. I keep my phone flat on my desk or on a table at work all the time, so people around aren’t distracted when my screen lights up, but it means I’m often having to *try* to unlock my phone, wait for Face ID to fail, then punch in my code. Like you, I’ve had to put in my code to unlock my phone FAR FAR FAR more often with the X than with the 7 Plus or 6s Plus, etc., which preceded it. I miss being able to unlock my phone at weird angles with a finger tip. I also find the new gestures to be acceptable but slower than tapping a button. When it works, like other say, it’s seamless and you don’t even notice it’s working. But, for me, there are just too many times when Face ID isn’t yet suited for the variety of ways in which I use my phone. I wouldn’t want to lose Face ID, because it has some genuinely wonderful benefits, but I have been frustrated by it far more than I’d expect from an Apple device. The best solution, many may agree, is to have both. Alas, I think Apple is going to push forward and make people like me adjust my behavior and live with the daily inconvenience of punching in a 6 digit code about half the time. My hope is that they somehow improve Face ID so it works in a much broader variety of circumstances. *CROSSES FINGERS*
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Face ID works when it’s on a table or a desk. Just train it. Mine works on the kitchen table. But of course it has to see your face or even your chin to work.

This assumes some very specific conditions that, in my experience, don’t occur regularly. It’s cool that it works for you, though. I’ve done all the supposed tricks to get the phone to recognize me whilst on a table, desk, etc, and unless I’m hovering practically parallel to the camera, it simply doesn’t see enough of my face. Some third party will probably come up with some attachment with an angled lens or something equally unholy but more functional than what I’ve got now. Haha
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Developers don’t need to update their apps in order to use the Face ID feature if the Touch ID interface was already being used. It’s automatic. The interface might look similar to Touch ID, but when you set it up, it will ask you permission to use Face ID. It has happened to me on several apps and banking apps I use that haven’t updated for the iPhone X specifically. My credit union app pictured with the Touch ID interface, but using Face ID on iPhone X. They have yet to update the app since the launch of the iPhone X.

Yes, but as soon as I log out, Face ID kicks in and immediately logs me back in, before I can even blink. I have to point the phone away from my face or cover the camera BEFORE logging out, then wait for Face ID to fail.
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Don’t do this. Use the passcode so it adds the data to the Face ID data has or...swipe up again. You are basically denying it the chance to learn new angles, etc by just locking the screen when it fails.

For some reason I can’t seem to get that “swipe up again” or “bump” gesture to trigger a re-scan. So I put in my code. Often. Maybe my swiping is too vigorous. Haha

 

[newellj]

Interesting. I guess it shows how the effectiveness of biometrics is different for different people.

For example, Touch ID is more reliable for me when I use my index finger then when I use my thumbs. I guess the skin changes (wrinkles) faster on my thumbs? No idea.

I'm in the ~100% camp (but I 'get it' that other people have very different experiences). The only finger that sometimes poses a challenge is the thumb that has a full length, huge, ugly scar running the length of the thumb pad from an accidental encounter with a table saw. In the winter when my skin gets drier the scar slows down TouchID for that finger, but even so my recollection is that it always lets me in.
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For some reason I can’t seem to get that “swipe up again” or “bump” gesture to trigger a re-scan. So I put in my code. Often. Maybe my swiping is too vigorous. Haha

I have to hit 'cancel' in the lower RH portion of the input screen and then trigger a rescan with a screen tap. (I have RtW disabled.)

 

[Booch21]

I've had my X for a couple of days and I really like how the phone operates with the Face ID and some of the gestures. It feels a little more natural, again on some of the gestures. App switching feels much faster than before on my 7+. If I really miss the touch ID, I'll just use my iPad Pro.

 

[caelius]

Not sure yet. I really like how seamless FaceID works (no extra step required), but I still miss the home button a little bit.
Long story short: I'd prefer having both but it seems okay to me.

 

[BoricuaHec01]

I like it but my only issue (which not really a big deal) is when I wake up in the morning still half a sleep and need to open my eyes (painfully) wide open for FaceID to work lol.

 

[Stetch]

Not one bit

 

[MacDawg]

Negative Ghost Rider

 

[jetlagged]

Face ID is still in beta so it will only get better going forward. But I’m surprised how much I like it. I thought it would be slow, but it’s just as fast as the first gen Touch ID that comes with my iPhone SE

 

[newellj]

I like it but my only issue (which not really a big deal) is when I wake up in the morning still half a sleep and need to open my eyes (painfully) wide open for FaceID to work lol.

Try turning attention awareness off. I believe that will allow unlocking without seeing your eyes.

 

[iHateMacs]

Do you miss Touch ID?

No.

I disliked touch ID. It always felt fiddly and I'd end up in Siri half the time.

Whenever I had a shower and wanted to read the news on my phone in the morning while getting dry, it could never read my thumbprint.

So far Face ID has been a great improvement.

I especially like how it works with APPs. I don't have to actively touch the phone for Touch ID. It just reads my face when it wants to. My face is already there, so it's easy.

It has never failed yet. With or without glasses, different glasses, all is good.

 

[xxray]

This data would've been so much easier to see as a poll.

 

[geekiemac]

Hi everyone - just as the question says, (particularly iPhone 6s and 7 users since there was faster Touch ID)

Do you miss Touch ID? This is the main thing holding me back from upgrading my 7.

I use Touch ID all the time for things like coffees and apps for banking and also using the London Underground.

I’m travelling to Canada this Christmas so the phone will be a BIT cheaper than the UK, just wondering if I’ll miss my 7?

Thoughts?

Is Face ID cumbersome compared to Touch ID?

Nope, not one bit. I don't miss TouchID at all... with time, the iPhone learns your face so well that a mere sideways glancing is often enough to unlock it. Granted, you have to slightly lift it off the table, but that's it.

 

[DNAppleGold]

Nope, not one bit. I don't miss TouchID at all... with time, the iPhone learns your face so well that a mere sideways glancing is often enough to unlock it. Granted, you have to slightly lift it off the table, but that's it.

Overall - I don't miss it. Face ID makes unlocking, apply pay, logging into websites not just easy but practically invisible in most situation including the dark, weird side angles when the phone is mounted on a car dashboard (with a little training - very little) and when your hands are wet. Plus, the extra screen space. Yes, I miss control center from the bottom and it has a harder time recognizing me without glasses that I would have thought. Overall, it's not close.

 

[cyclingplatypus]

I don't miss it. I thought apple pay would be awkward - I imagined having to bend over the reader while it authenticated but it is easier, like has been said already - double tap, face scan, pay...might even be a little faster for me.

 

[Sanooya]

I don’t miss it at all - I’m still using a 7 as my work phone, I keep looking at ut waiting it to unlock, then I remember the touch ID.