Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple has made the decision how long an iPad battery will last, how long an Apple Watch battery will last, and how long an Apple Watch Ultra battery will last... and now how long a Macbook Pro/Air battery will last.. and how long an iPhone battery will last.

It's not going to change any more than +/- a few percent. Your option is not to buy. It's that simple.
 
If you notice the usb-c connection barely fits that thinness now. Sure hope a micro usb-c is in the works cause this thing can’t get that much thinner now
 
I have a 2022 11” iPad Pro (I believe that’s a 3rd gen ?) and I feel that it was a royal waste of money.

I don’t care about differences in screen quality or speakers vs the base iPad, certainly not enough to pay almost double. And iPadOS is there to ensure that all those great specs are there for nothing and can’t really be useful.

My next tablet will be either the base iPad or an Android.

Depending on what you need out of your tablet, look at a Surface Pro.
 
Depending on what you need out of your tablet, look at a Surface Pro.

I had one for a while. But it always seemed like it was confused as to whether it was supposed to be a tablet or a laptop. Mainly because of how Windows works/worked on it. For me, it ended up being neither properly.

I do like the Surface Pen and its different pen tips, though. That's something I wish Apple would copy.
 
Does that include the camera wart, and the (inevitably) thicker and heavier case because it's not practical to use a magnetic hinged tri-fold screen cover with the inferior design of the newer iPads?
 
Maybe I’m in the minority but after years of owning an iPad Pro 12.9 I think a thinner device is exactly what’s called for. The current version is heavy and unwieldy. I’m excited to upgrade to a thinner, lighter device.
 
I had one for a while. But it always seemed like it was confused as to whether it was supposed to be a tablet or a laptop. Mainly because of how Windows works/worked on it. For me, it ended up being neither properly.

I do like the Surface Pen and its different pen tips, though. That's something I wish Apple would copy.

Part of that is solved now that Microsoft has had more time (over a decade now) to refine Windows, app developers have caught up, etc.

Still, Windows is not and probably never will be a finger touchable OS like iPadOS or Android. It will pretty much always require the use of a trackpad, keyboard, and pen. But it has gotten better.

The benefit of Surface to me is I can run full-fat Photoshop with touch and ink, while still reading my eBooks using the Kindle app. That's simply not possible on iPadOS.
 
  • Like
Reactions: gusmula
Depending on what you need out of your tablet, look at a Surface Pro.

Sorry to say it but I have a Surface Pro 8 and it's almost the worst laptop I ever had.

First, it's had an abhorrent battery life from day one. With moderate load (email, PDFs, Office, Teams meetings) I am lucky if I can get over 3 hrs on battery. Often it's barely 2. I had it looked at by our IT, our MS account rep, a 3rd party support vendor, looked at many forums, until I just learned to live with it. There are countless complaints about this with no resolution.

It's also a poor tablet. It's heavy. It is often confused about screen orientation - either suddenly rotating the display without me rotating the tablet, or failing to adjust to the physical rotation. Both are pretty annoying and happen often enough. And, there's a lack of good apps.

One of my main use cases for a tablet is to take field notes for engineering projects. This means reviewing and marking up drawings and documents in PDF (with the ability to zoom in on fine details and place notes and sketches in a highly zoomed view), taking photos and marking them up, drawing sketches, making notes, and all of it in one document as I don't have the time to switch between several apps on the fly while walking around active heavy machinery.

On the iPad, it's really easy - Goodnotes or Notability have all of that functionality and work really well (and there's a handful of other apps). And marking up a photo after taking it is easy and quick, without interrupting the workflow. Windows, on the other hand, is not optimized for this. Photo markup takes several extra steps, from what I remember. As far as apps, I tried Inkodo (runs out of memory and starts refreshing in the middle of taking a note, hates large pdfs), MS Journal (lags), Scrble Ink (crashes), Xjournal++ (not bad for PDF markup, but clunky and outdated). And with all of them, after I have enough markup Surface starts getting hot and drains battery. There's simply no reliability, speed and fluidity that I came to expect from the iPad. Onenote is a good app but it's not really well suited for this kind of work. Goodnotes for Windows is still in its infancy, largely.

I got to the point where instead of taking my corporate Surface, which will be replaced by the company if anything happens to it, I resorted to bringing my own expensive iPad to the dirty, noisy, highly hazardous industrial environments, just so I don't have to deal with all that crap. Even though if I drop it, I'm out of my own $$$.

About the only thing I think MS made better is the pen. I really like Surface pen.
 
  • Like
Reactions: nickf
Wasn't the 5th generation nano thinner? I remember the colors were really good with that generation and didn't have the white face like the one in the photo above but all uniform with a black bezel around the video. I remember those being extremely thin and possibly slimmer than the iPod nano in the photo.
The 5th gen was 6.1mm thick.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.