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Is anybody beginning to personally dislike Jobs?
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Well, he did have his own charity going at one point.Uhuh.
And I am sure Jobs does plenty of those
Hes an incredibly private man.
Jobs has been at the wheel managing and introducing two of my favourite possessions - my Mac and my iPod. I make a living on one, and the other can while away countless hours with good music and movies.
I respect Steve as a very smart, albeit some say hard to work for at times, executive. I also admire him for his tenacity fighting cancer and his digging in his heels and bucking up even at hard times in his life - many people could take a lesson from that.
Stating that, I've never met him, don't follow his personal life and don't intend on starting to revere him unduly. And I don't blame him for being a very private individual.
I respect Steve as a very smart, albeit some say hard to work for at times, executive. I also admire him for his tenacity fighting cancer and his digging in his heels and bucking up even at hard times in his life - many people could take a lesson from that.
Stating that, I've never met him, don't follow his personal life and don't intend on starting to revere him unduly. And I don't blame him for being a very private individual.
my few cents....
alright first off , (as a side comment) to all the ppl who are making a fuss about "how can i personally hate a guy if i never met the him..." and "hate is such a strong word....." and "blah blah blah" - stop being the righteous Ned Flanders of the internet and a bunch of semantic babies. Its obviously an exaggerated expression and a "loaded" poll if you must call it that. Your common sense will tell you, if you let it out of the time out corner to play with all your other brain cells, that the "exaggerated" expression is just a way of communicating an idea, so be reasonable, take the gist of the question and respond instead of spaming the thread with your good samaritan ego trip .
Anyway, back to the original post.
Although i can say that i feel that Mr. JObs is this and that and that unfortunately iam not inclined to think that he is a straight up honest man etc. a lot of that can be written off as part of the territory. Business men do not exactly prosper by honesty. Its part of the trade and he cant be blamed for that. In fact a little cleverness in business is commendable, right? But the point is, cleverness is one thing and greed is another. Apple is wealthy enough to provide high quality computers with out all their disgraceful money extorting tactics. I hate that ****.
People pay enough (the cheapest apple computer is at least double the price of 95% of every other computer on the market) for apple to fill its own shoes and give people half of what they are paying for and that also with out the blood sucking money tactics that come along with it.
Why the #$%& should ppl have to pay 300 dollars for something called "Apple care" to be generously offered the opportunity ask for some help over the phone from a company whos own product is defective? Why dont they reimburse the costumer for having to take time out of their day to waste time trying to get their 1000+ $ machine to do what it is supposed to do in the first place?
How about email support? Can you even write an apple techy a question? Nope. Try to find one other company which does not allow you to call them or write them to ask a question about thier products. Or even further charges you 300 $ for 3 years of hesitant "support".
How can you say that the CEO of a company with such a policy is not a sociopathic narcissist?
Any way for the cost of their computers apple could offer more cutting edge equipment (and dont get me wrong, Iam not an ingrate - they have and do bring cutting edge material to the market) but i mean fully. Why not offer blue ray disk drives in mack books . One of the main things that justifies ppl spending so much on their computer and upgrading their hdds and ram etc is media production (video in particular , and what to speak of thousands spent on software). What is illogical about ppl spending respectable amounts of money on HD cameras and such and having a blue ray drive to go along with it? Its common courtesy, simple and plain.
And why did apple initially make the "new and improved" unibody macbooks w/o firewire instead of upgrading it to fw 800? Only to come out with a new 13 in macbook pro a few months later to pinch all the first generation unibody owners into considering upgrading again. Its one thing to release a new computer w/ new and improved technology but to try to 'specialize' it by re-including the technology you already released is just a low class skam. Am I the only one that sees this?
Its petty disrespectful heartless money grubbing **** like this that makes apple look like they have the ethics of a bunch of crack addicted whores. I know it sounds like i have a bad mouth but they are the ones that act like that, i just call it what it is.
I mean the list goes on, from small to big.
Why cant Jobs just take pride in his job? "Iam going to make the best possible cutting edge computers i can, with the quality as the target and revenue as a byproduct, and offer them at the price commensurate to the cost of their production and marketing." Wtf is the problem?
I mean is he that strapped for cash that when he went to the atm and looked at his balance he thought "Oh ****! I better stop providing those little white remotes with the 1000 dollar laptops or iam gonna go bankrupt! 20$s from here on in." (prick....)
Its the principle of it. If customers are showing their loyalty by paying more for their product then any other consumer on the market why not have the decency of not trying to bleed them with every perverted wallet molesting scheme that your stupid executives can think of.
(.....but apples are atill better then pcs even though they act like a bunch of @$$wh*le$)
alright first off , (as a side comment) to all the ppl who are making a fuss about "how can i personally hate a guy if i never met the him..." and "hate is such a strong word....." and "blah blah blah" - stop being the righteous Ned Flanders of the internet and a bunch of semantic babies. Its obviously an exaggerated expression and a "loaded" poll if you must call it that. Your common sense will tell you, if you let it out of the time out corner to play with all your other brain cells, that the "exaggerated" expression is just a way of communicating an idea, so be reasonable, take the gist of the question and respond instead of spaming the thread with your good samaritan ego trip .
Anyway, back to the original post.
Although i can say that i feel that Mr. JObs is this and that and that unfortunately iam not inclined to think that he is a straight up honest man etc. a lot of that can be written off as part of the territory. Business men do not exactly prosper by honesty. Its part of the trade and he cant be blamed for that. In fact a little cleverness in business is commendable, right? But the point is, cleverness is one thing and greed is another. Apple is wealthy enough to provide high quality computers with out all their disgraceful money extorting tactics. I hate that ****.
People pay enough (the cheapest apple computer is at least double the price of 95% of every other computer on the market) for apple to fill its own shoes and give people half of what they are paying for and that also with out the blood sucking money tactics that come along with it.
Why the #$%& should ppl have to pay 300 dollars for something called "Apple care" to be generously offered the opportunity ask for some help over the phone from a company whos own product is defective? Why dont they reimburse the costumer for having to take time out of their day to waste time trying to get their 1000+ $ machine to do what it is supposed to do in the first place?
How about email support? Can you even write an apple techy a question? Nope. Try to find one other company which does not allow you to call them or write them to ask a question about thier products. Or even further charges you 300 $ for 3 years of hesitant "support".
How can you say that the CEO of a company with such a policy is not a sociopathic narcissist?
Any way for the cost of their computers apple could offer more cutting edge equipment (and dont get me wrong, Iam not an ingrate - they have and do bring cutting edge material to the market) but i mean fully. Why not offer blue ray disk drives in mack books . One of the main things that justifies ppl spending so much on their computer and upgrading their hdds and ram etc is media production (video in particular , and what to speak of thousands spent on software). What is illogical about ppl spending respectable amounts of money on HD cameras and such and having a blue ray drive to go along with it? Its common courtesy, simple and plain.
And why did apple initially make the "new and improved" unibody macbooks w/o firewire instead of upgrading it to fw 800? Only to come out with a new 13 in macbook pro a few months later to pinch all the first generation unibody owners into considering upgrading again. Its one thing to release a new computer w/ new and improved technology but to try to 'specialize' it by re-including the technology you already released is just a low class skam. Am I the only one that sees this?
Its petty disrespectful heartless money grubbing **** like this that makes apple look like they have the ethics of a bunch of crack addicted whores. I know it sounds like i have a bad mouth but they are the ones that act like that, i just call it what it is.
I mean the list goes on, from small to big.
Why cant Jobs just take pride in his job? "Iam going to make the best possible cutting edge computers i can, with the quality as the target and revenue as a byproduct, and offer them at the price commensurate to the cost of their production and marketing." Wtf is the problem?
I mean is he that strapped for cash that when he went to the atm and looked at his balance he thought "Oh ****! I better stop providing those little white remotes with the 1000 dollar laptops or iam gonna go bankrupt! 20$s from here on in." (prick....
)Its the principle of it. If customers are showing their loyalty by paying more for their product then any other consumer on the market why not have the decency of not trying to bleed them with every perverted wallet molesting scheme that your stupid executives can think of.
(.....but apples are atill better then pcs even though they act like a bunch of @$$wh*le$)
You're asking people on a Mac forum if they hate Jobs? A lot of these guys masturbate to this dude, seriously. Don't expect shocking results in the poll.
Where's the "I've always disliked him a bit" option? Personally, the dude just rubs me the wrong way. He's arrogant and seems like he'd be a deuchebag. But, it could just also be the way he dresses (and if you dress like him you're also a deuchebag). Seriously, though, rolled up sleeve business sweater, jeans and 1978 sneakers with "i'm smarter than you glasses and a grin". They even make the guy in the Mac commercials dress like him for crying out loud. Just makes me want to punch him for some reason.
But, no, do I hate the guy? No, he just comes off as a bit too in to himself, which I think is why you have a lot of non-Apple fans that don't particularly like him. Jobs is like the leader of a cult though. To some people, they'd kill you if you talk bad about their leader so be careful.
Where's the "I've always disliked him a bit" option? Personally, the dude just rubs me the wrong way. He's arrogant and seems like he'd be a deuchebag. But, it could just also be the way he dresses (and if you dress like him you're also a deuchebag). Seriously, though, rolled up sleeve business sweater, jeans and 1978 sneakers with "i'm smarter than you glasses and a grin". They even make the guy in the Mac commercials dress like him for crying out loud. Just makes me want to punch him for some reason.
But, no, do I hate the guy? No, he just comes off as a bit too in to himself, which I think is why you have a lot of non-Apple fans that don't particularly like him. Jobs is like the leader of a cult though. To some people, they'd kill you if you talk bad about their leader so be careful.
met him
Many of you haven't met him but I have several times. I mostly saw him when I was younger. I hope he is doing well.
Many of you haven't met him but I have several times. I mostly saw him when I was younger. I hope he is doing well.