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Is anybody beginning to personally dislike Jobs?
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Perhaps he prefers to do his charitable work anonymously. Rather than making a public display of "Look at me, see, I do good things!" Just surmising...
I dislike his unwillingness to be honest regarding Apple road maps. I can totally respect confidentiality but lying I cannot. I don't lie to people and I require the same of them.
He should keep his political views private. Perhaps if he, as well as others in business and entertainment, actually had a wealth of political experience I would consider their opinions. When they don't have the experience their political opinions have no more worth to me than the drive through kid at a McDonalds. It is what it is.
He should keep his political views private. Perhaps if he, as well as others in business and entertainment, actually had a wealth of political experience I would consider their opinions. When they don't have the experience their political opinions have no more worth to me than the drive through kid at a McDonalds. It is what it is.
This last "event" may be the last straw. Apple said it was going to be "big" and it was anything but big. Just some minor incremental changes to the iPod line up. They should have simply updated the web site. Now no one will believe it when they say "big". What does a reporter who flew in from the east coast think when he hears "So now the Nano is tall again and some prices have changed." He thinks "I'll never fall for that again."
But Steve dishonest? No I don't think so. Just not so smart to cal a big event to announce trivia.
I might argue that those who do get their name in the news are doing the charitable things for reasons other than charity.
What makes Bill Gates a philanthropist in your opinion? Microsoft has made him more money than he can spend on himself, so he is desperately trying to buy himself a good reputation. And who pays for it? Not Bill Gates, but customers buying Microsoft products.
Now if someone replaces "misleading" with "dishonest", as you just did, is that just misleading or is it dishonest? But let's compare: Apple is told to withdraw one TV advert in the UK. Microsoft is fined a bit more than 600 million Euros for violating a court order for more than three years.
SJ was nice when he was working with The Woz back when Apple was new, but when it started to get big SJ got nasty
I watched the documentary on it, Pirates Of Silicon Valley.
I wouldn't call "Pirates of Silicon Valley" a documentary. And I am sure Apple employs a few thousand people who are nicer than Steve Jobs, and I guess the same is true for Microsoft. But Steve Jobs isn't there to be nice. He is there to drive the company forward, and that is what he is doing.
Did apple really say that the event was going to be big or was it just a rumor that apple said that?
Ummm okay but I have never seen a computer lab donated by Apple in any 3rd world country. I have seen windows boxes.
Point taken. As far as philanthropy is involved, yeah Steve is a mere billionaire. Warren Buffett is also trying to buy a good name too I guess. Whatever the motives are at least they do something.
FWIW I would love to use Macs to teach technology in the 3rd world but it is very difficult, this is not Apple's fault but my God is it hard to do.
Maybe because Steve Jobs is busy giving the locals clean drinking water and sanitation whilst Bill is more concerned with ensuring future customers?
It's a possibility.
when it comes to promoting apple products, i do not believe that jobs is being dishonest.
in my mind, being dishonest implies a malicious undertone. he is not purposefully lying about the products, he is selling what the product should be doing on paper. the iPhone is a very new product and the kinks need to be worked out.
i dont dislike him as a person (haven't met him) or as a public figure.
in my mind, being dishonest implies a malicious undertone. he is not purposefully lying about the products, he is selling what the product should be doing on paper. the iPhone is a very new product and the kinks need to be worked out.
i dont dislike him as a person (haven't met him) or as a public figure.
Yes and the tooth fairy was the one that put money under my pillow.
In fairness they had project red iPods which seem to have been dropped now. That was for some common good.
You mean these very iPods? 8GB (Product) Red Nano 16GB (Product) Red Nano, 1GB (Product) Red Shuffle & the 2GB (Product) Red Shuffle.
Okay so they are still around, my mistake. I didn't see them during the keynote. Every color but red was there. The product red availability wasn't mentioned as far as I know.
My conclusion from this poll is... that around 35% find that they possibly like Apple but not Jobs himself. I will decline further comment and let the poll speak for itself.
I am sure this thread is called "Is anybody beginning to personally dislike Jobs?" and not "Lets talk about the wonderful things Steve Jobs has done for Apple".
Yes, SJ basically saved Apple, but thats not what this thread is about.
and that translates to him being a horrible person.....how?
In reality MANY people do it, simply because (at least in my area) there are somewhere around 20 handicap spots that NEVER get used. I realize that you still shouldnt be doing it, but can parking in a zone ur not supposed to really be a cause for "personally disliking" someone?
I really think alot of people in the world hate steve without warrant, just as many people hate Gates without reason.