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chabig

macrumors G4
Sep 6, 2002
11,445
9,317
First lesson of being a mac user is wait 3 weeks before installing anything and read about it here. i haven't installed it yet and now I know I shouldn't.

This whole thread just flew over your head, didn't it? Coaching Guy is running software that specifically causes the problems he's complaining about.
 

jeremiah239

macrumors 6502a
Nov 1, 2007
575
15
239 Area, FL
Yep. Really. But its cool. I don't boycott an OS just over looks, they're the least important thing to me. But Yosemite so far as been the most ugly and weirdly presented UI I've ever used.

And I didn't think anybody could do worse Windows XPs teletubbies theme or the classic Ubuntu brown theme.

Hey, different strokes for different folks!
 

dumastudetto

macrumors 603
Aug 28, 2013
5,529
8,310
Los Angeles, USA
So you are unhappy with the performance of your Mac running Yosemite? i have a 2009 and 2011MBP both with SSD - running excellent with Yosemite, also have a 2013 iMac and MBP with HDD both of those run a bit slower with Yosemite.

I have to concede I too am not delighted with performance. I have a late 2013 15" rMBP with 16GB RAM and 2.3 i7 with dedicated graphics and I see a lot of UI and application lag. It's far more noticeable when using the Scaled / More Space setting that I prefer for my work. The best for display setting just doesn't have enough screen resolution for me, but the experience is a heck of a lot smoother with significantly better performance. So it appears everything is tuned up quite nicely for the settings Apple wants us to use, and what the vast majority of people will use.

Overall I love the look and feel of the update. I just wish performance with the display settings I use for work was better. As of today, it feels like I'm using a 3+ year old MBP with inferior graphics and RAM.
 

xmichaelp

macrumors 68000
Jul 10, 2012
1,815
626
4. I like to have my apps maximized so that they take up the entire screen (minus the menu bar at the top) but not "full screen". Looks like I can't do that automatically with Mail anymore. Green button puts it into "full screen" mode when all I want it to do is maximize the app's window.

You can still have that function if you press option and click the green button.
 

steve333

macrumors 65816
Dec 12, 2008
1,371
942
Get rid of Ive? :rolleyes:

Please, go buy a cheap dell machine or something. You clearly don't appreciate design.

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So, if I don't like anything Ive craps out then I don't appreciate design?
I appreciate good design. Yosemite is not good design, it's an ego project for a hardware designer that should never have been allowed near software.
As for hardware, I actually like the look of the HP All in One we just installed at our office better than the iMac. Doesn't mean I don't appreciate design,I just prefer the look of an all black monitor.
 

Vapor matt

macrumors regular
Aug 8, 2010
190
0
UK
The look is awful, its like a leap back in time to tiger. in fact tiger looked better. Iam dual booting yosemite with mavericks and when ever i go back to mavericks it always looks so much better than yosetripe

leave IOS on the tablets apple, or is the whole design geared towards retina screens i wonder.
 

markie606

macrumors newbie
Jul 15, 2012
5
0
Toronto
sending and receiving mail from Mail is faster

First thing I've noticed since installing Yosemite yesterday is that sending and receiving mail from Mail is faster than with Mavericks. Despite my troubleshooting, previously it would take about 30 seconds before a sent mail left my outbox. Incoming mail would start arriving about 20 seconds after clicking on Send/Receive.

Since installing Yosemite yesterday, the time is down to a few seconds. Very pleased that *something* was fixed.

My 2013 imac seems a little snappier overall.

I like the cleaner looking text, but I miss the richer, more dimensional look of the older OSs.
 

infantrytrophy

macrumors regular
Oct 27, 2013
230
61
First thing I've noticed since installing Yosemite yesterday is that sending and receiving mail from Mail is faster than with Mavericks. Despite my troubleshooting, previously it would take about 30 seconds before a sent mail left my outbox. Incoming mail would start arriving about 20 seconds after clicking on Send/Receive.

Since installing Yosemite yesterday, the time is down to a few seconds. Very pleased that *something* was fixed.

My 2013 imac seems a little snappier overall.

Yes. I had extensive problems with Mail under both Mavericks and Moutain Lion. Same problems as yours - slow to retrieve, slow to send. Tried many fixes that did not help. Problems are now gone with Yosemite!

Another problem that was fixed was failure of Mail to work after waking from sleep mode. Works fine now and my 2009 iMac is "snappy" also.
 

kappaknight

macrumors 68000
Mar 5, 2009
1,595
91
Atlanta, GA
Hi all,
since I moved from MSWindows to OSX I started to make screenshots of all
Preferences of System and any application.
It was a lot of work but it paid off:

after the upgrade to Yosemite I could easily verify which settings were
modified by the upgrade, which settings were new and which were ... gone.
I think that several complaints above result from the strange habit of
software manufacturers to reset settings or even to set them to THEIR idea.
Good Luck!
;JOOP!

You could've also done that by following the blog posts that covered the various beta launches and what changed in the UI.

Yosemite has been working great for me. There are a couple of issues with Messages windows not staying where they are, but overall, this has been a very solid launch, with very minimal issues. I love the Handoff and relay integrations. Productivity and ability to text faster has gone up. :)
 

katewes

macrumors 6502
Jun 7, 2007
466
146
First lesson of being a mac user is wait 3 weeks before installing anything and read about it here. i haven't installed it yet and now I know I shouldn't.

Me too. I agree, however, you don't understand these people. It is the thrill, the risk of damaging their whole software setup on their computer, that gives them a rush of adrenaline. These complaints that you hear are actually people expressing their happiness at experiencing the exhilaration of living on the bleeding edge of software that has not been fully beta-tested but released to meet an artificial annual release schedule. Please don't rob them of one small thing that gives them happiness in life. :apple:
 

jfischer

macrumors regular
Aug 18, 2014
176
83
The look is awful, its like a leap back in time to tiger. in fact tiger looked better. Iam dual booting yosemite with mavericks and when ever i go back to mavericks it always looks so much better than yosetripe

Interesting. When I was beta testing with Yosemite on 2nd partition, whenever I went back to Mavericks I couldn't believe how much more I liked the new look of Yosemite :)

Different strokes and all that...
 

snorkelman

Cancelled
Oct 25, 2010
666
155
Treat it like a new extended beta test program; it comes out 12 months early, they work on it on a regular basis and, when its finally knocked into shape and is as stable as its ever likely to get, they call it 10.10.5 mark it as done and move onto 10.11.0

That's when you upgrade from 10.9.5 :)

You run that 10.10.5 for a year (free from need for regular boring downloads of point updates and any of the hassles other folks are getting) and then repeat the process with 10.11.5

You still get a new OSX on your machine every year; the only difference is you get a stable one with all the bugs shaken out, and that all your software has finally got round to fully supporting

Easy :D
 

Sciuriware

macrumors 6502a
Jan 4, 2014
758
165
Gelderland
... then again, if everybody here did not try it, who would find the remaining bugs?

May be downloading, installing, testing and complaining as an early bird
is no more than behaving socially.

;JOOP!
 

snorkelman

Cancelled
Oct 25, 2010
666
155
... then again, if everybody here did not try it, who would find the remaining bugs?

May be downloading, installing, testing and complaining as an early bird
is no more than behaving socially.

Indeed, then they can have my thanks and best wishes for taking one for the team. Rather them than me :p
 

Galvao

macrumors member
Nov 14, 2013
42
2
Lisboa, Portugal
The time I am spending trying to deal with the drawbacks of Yosemite doesn't allow me to enjoy the possible advantages...:(

Never mind the looks, I would like my Mac mini to awake after going to sleep without a cold reboot, and I would like to be able to select more that one contact at a time, when sending the same email to several people in my list, from Mail app.:mad:

So far Yosemite is certainly a disappointment, as were the downgrades of Pages and Numbers before that. It seems the idea of closing the gap between OS X and IOS leads to one direction only, the weaker...:(
 

baryon

macrumors 68040
Oct 3, 2009
3,903
2,972
While it's not as terrible as Lion was, I'm not entirely happy with it either: the interface seems laggy and slow, the whole thing seems slower than Mavericks. Switching spaces isn't very responsive and animations are choppy everywhere. Running on a Late 2013 rMBP with 16 GB of RAM, everything should really run as fast as hell.

I do like the interface though, however, the font is a bit strange and looks a little bit cluttered instead of being nicely spaced out.

Oh, one thing I hate: the "waiting" progress bar (which used to look like a stripy blue/white candy bar flowing backwards) now looks almost exactly like a normal blue progress bar at 100%. So before every file transfer, for a few seconds, it looks like the file transfer is complete even though it's just waiting to start. This is very lame.
 

Mangolife

macrumors newbie
Oct 23, 2014
6
0
Working great so far

I installed Mavericks on the first or second day it came out and regretted it. I vowed I would wait till the first major upgrade after public release but I gave in and updated today. Most of the complaints I read about seemed either to be knit pics or affecting software that I don't use.

The install was amazingly fast on my mac mini 2011 and everything is running smoothly.

Will take a few days to really assess how everything work but for now no problems and Spotlight is AWESOME.

Will come back to this I find anything to pull my hair out over.
 

steve333

macrumors 65816
Dec 12, 2008
1,371
942
8Gb RAM didn't help my Mini, still hangs at times before performing the action.

Also, when I check the activity monitor the green memory pressure bar is all the way across, not sure what this means but my Mini is using 3Gb out of the 8Gb available so I would think memory pressure would be low?
 

AllergyDoc

macrumors 68020
Mar 17, 2013
2,025
9,661
Utah, USA
My only complaint is I think text looks a little worse on a non-retina screen. Other than that, I'm loving the changes.

I like being able to answer or place calls on my computer. It means I don't have to worry about hauling my phone around the house. People I talk to say they can hear me fine.

I like the changes in the Notification Center. Some widgets are not real responsive yet, but I'm guessing that will improve with time.

Handoff and Continuity are great.

I don't notice any changes in performance on my late-2013 13" rMBP. Granted, I don't do a lot of CPU-intensive things on this computer. I do notice a change in the way memory usage is handled. But with 16GB of RAM, I still never go below 6 or 7. I haven't had any WiFi problems.

I like the transparency and have gotten used to seeing so much Helvetica. It's been written you read best what you read most. I think it's true. I like the color scheme. I'm not real thrilled with the flat dock, but I don't sit and stare at it so no big deal.

I'm sure I would feel different if I were having the problems others seem to be having.
 

ijha

macrumors regular
Aug 20, 2009
109
0
I am a long time apple user (12 years). I've been always happy with their new OSXs. No problems at all. For the first time as an apple user, I am saying that I'm NOT happy with this version of OS X. Just one year old rMBA shouldn't behave in this way in my opinion.
 
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