Other Is anyone really that excited for the iPhone 15 (Ultra)

[MacCheetah3]

If the color s rumored are true, then I think they are lame. I have the 14 pro max & the 15 pro max will have the same 48mp 1x camera, probably with a slightly larger sensor, but if the other two cameras remain at 12mp, then it doesn’t help me to want to upgrade. The cameras on the iPhone are what does it for me. Not the frame, charging port, apps, etc, most of those remain the same. Titanium scratches very easily so there will most certainly be scratches and marks on the frame sooner than later. Of course stainless steel scratches easily also, but the coating on my 14 pro max (Gold) is still nearly scratch free since launch.

If the other two cameras (telephoto & ultra wide) improve sensor wise, then I’ll probably upgrade. The Samsung S23 ultra periscope camera only has a 10mp sensor! Not near enough for me. Pretty lame actually. The reveal online at the Apple event will curve my decision.

You're stating that the camera is a priority for you. Than why the focus on the pixel count? Until very recently, even full-frame DSRLs had 12MP sensors. While it makes some sense to go for 48MP, especially for digital zoom anything above that for current sensor sizes is more or less useless. The Samsung phones with 200MP but 0,6 µm pixel size stand out in that respect.

Furthermore while anyone is exited about the size increase of the 16 Ultra and 16 pro to 6,9" and 6,3" in reality these phones will not get any wider, just even longer with the Ultra beeing 165 mm long. That's actually a disadvantage for me. I read a lot on my phomne and most of the time I hold my phone straight up. An even longer phone won't make that of any use. The ever increasing aspect ratios of modern phones are in my opinion a marketing act which suggest that the displays get bigger while in reality they are nearly constant. One could have a phone with a nearly infinite "size" on paper and at the same time the display would be nearly infinite small, e. g. an aspect ratio of 1.000.000 to 1 and a phone width of 0.01 mm (0.0004") and a length of 10 m (abou 30 feet).

Y-e-a-h… I think, Apple is kidding themselves if they believe keeping a slenderer aspect ratio matters anymore. Overall screen size has reached a point in which you can’t reasonably make it skinny enough for comfortable one-handed use. When’s the last time you’ve done or seen someone go one-handed beyond scrolling?

 

[jimmy_uk]

It won’t be different, same kind of oled tech. Eventually going to micro led will bring a solution to pwm.

Samsung and Apple have been tweaking the displays and PWM frequencies have been getting higher. Apple also has a team looking at health so I’m forever hopeful further changes can be made. I could use the standard 13 and 14 for almost a week in the past 😳, whereas before it was only a matter of minutes, so change is happening.

 

[Vol Braakzakje]

I still use my 2018 iPhone XS Max. This will be my first iPhone upgrade in 5 years. So I am really looking forward to it. It will be such a massive change. And I'm sure this new iPhone will be able to serve me well for 5 years as well.

 

[BanjoDudeAhoy]

Yeah I’m even excited about new phones I’ll never buy, like some of the Chinese phones debuting recently or the Fairfield phone that isn’t sold or supported in the US. I like tech or I wouldn’t be here, usually every morning, with my coffee reading all the rumors. I don’t have to own or buy everything to get excited about it.

I’ve been dreaming of all this stuff since I was a little kid watching the original Star Trek, which debuted near my birthday. I watched home computing be invented and evolve to what we have now. It will never not be exciting to me.

Where a lot of people see stagnation, I see refinement and fine tuning. Eventually we probably will move away from the slab form factor to foldables or something else. But for now, I’m watching an evolution take place. Each stage, no matter how incremental, is of interest to me.

And it’s exciting because I’m watching something evolve that once existed only in the fiction of my childhood: a powerful computer that can connect a person with the whole world yet can fit in my hands. Hell yeah! I’m excited!

This was strangely heartwarming to read.
The Star Trek reference in particular because I remember making myself communicators and tricorders out of Lego when I was a kid. I was super fascinated with TNG’s tablet computers too, and to have that sort of thing now is wild.

So, thanks for brightening my Monday morning 🙂

 

[w_aldo]

Excited? Hell I can’t wait for the preorder, I’m in my line right now. 8 days away and counting.

You have to be trolling?

 

[Jackbequickly]

I have done too many new phone introductions to get as excited as I used too.

But I understand how others might, so let them have their excitement.

 

[JustAnExpat]

What are your thoughts? I'm curious to see what they announce but im not yet sold on a day one purchase if at all yet! I hope they change my mind!

Here are my thoughts:

> i feel way more bored based on what we are rumored to get.

Right now, cell phones are at the "replacement stage" in the product lifecycle. A phone is exciting when you buy a new one because your existing phone breaks. This isn't the iPhone 3G/ 3GS/ 4 era where each upgrade was mouth dropping. You'll be amazed when you buy a replacement iPhone when the iPhone 11 Pro Max is no longer being updated, and not before.

>The idea of a tablet and a phone in all one device sounds amazing

Not to me. I'm curious what Apple may be planning though, and how thick the phone is going to be.

>(and i am still somewhat confused as to why we are getting a 2nd gen one so soon

It's a rumor, Apple hasn't released anything.

>will it be able to do the moon test though like the Samsung phones can apparently do

Samsung's phones are able to take pictures of the moon because it pulls up a picture of the moon and adds fake information to the picture. See https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...e-detail-to-moon-photos-via-reference-photos/

 

[JustAnExpat]

I'm more excited than I've been in a long time. But I'm upgrading from the 8+, so there is a lot to look forward to.

Honestly one reason I kept the 8+ so long was because I missed the days of getting excited for all the new features. The phones are more mature now so I figure you have to let the anticipation "build a little", if you will.

To save money, I recommend going from an 8+ to an iPhone 14 (or iPhone 14 Pro). You'll save some money, and the feature jump would be very high. I went from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 12 mini, and I was just amazed by the changes.

 

[fatTribble]

What I’m excited about…

If the new camera really does 6x optical zoom, I might leave my DSLR at home which would make less to carry at Star Trek conventions. 🤓 🖖

A 2 TB iPhone would allow me to keep all photos and videos on the iPhone so no more network lag when I want to browse

Hoping the 3nm processor will improve battery life

Planning to assign the new action to signal Scotty to beam me up 🤭🙄

 

[cateye]

I’m not interested in any product until Apple actually announces it. There’s always plenty of time to get excited after we know what the features are.

This is what I never understood about MacRumors and its ilk. Like, at all. Why get excited about something that doesn't exist? What exactly are people excited... about? ooo there's going to be a new electronics bauble that might maybe perhaps according to a random post on X include some minor incremental change ooo ooo. Seriously.

which would make less to carry at Star Trek conventions. 🤓 🖖

 

[poorcody]

To save money, I recommend going from an 8+ to an iPhone 14 (or iPhone 14 Pro). You'll save some money, and the feature jump would be very high. I went from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone 12 mini, and I was just amazed by the changes.

Yeah that's good advice economically. I'm actually not all that price sensitive though, and one reason I've held off upgrading for the last two years was because I was waiting for the periscope lens. I do a lot of nature kayaking and I have to carry a small camera with a long zoom to catch wildlife pics. I would love to leave that at home and just have the phone, so I am looking forward to that.

 

[ToddH]

You're stating that the camera is a priority for you. Than why the focus on the pixel count? Until very recently, even full-frame DSRLs had 12MP sensors. While it makes some sense to go for 48MP, especially for digital zoom anything above that for current sensor sizes is more or less useless. The Samsung phones with 200MP but 0,6 µm pixel size stand out in that respect.

Overall, the iPhone has grown most sensor slightly in the last years, e.g. the new ultrawide on the 14 pro using the old main of the 12 pro max and so on. Let's see if anything more than the persicope sensor gets's and upgrade. I'm going up anyway, because I'm on an Xr and really use my phone a lot.

Furthermore while anyone is exited about the size increase of the 16 Ultra and 16 pro to 6,9" and 6,3" in reality these phones will not get any wider, just even longer with the Ultra beeing 165 mm long. That's actually a disadvantage for me. I read a lot on my phone and most of the time I hold my phone straight up. An even longer phone won't make that of any use. The ever increasing aspect ratios of modern phones are in my opinion a marketing act which suggest that the displays get bigger while in reality they are nearly constant. One could have a phone with a nearly infinite "size" on paper and at the same time the display would be nearly infinite small, e. g. an aspect ratio of 1.000.000 to 1 and a phone width of 0.01 mm (0.0004") and a length of 10 m (abou 30 feet).

Yes the camera is a priority for me. I like high resolution photos. The 1x (24mm equivalent) is too wide for close up portraits to use without distortion. The 3x is nice, but the resolution just isn’t there yet and its low light performance is poor. I have the BeastGrip beastcage and the 1.7x telephoto for the 1x camera. It helps, but I’d prefer not to use an external lens. If the 77mm 3x camera was at least 24mp with a larger sensor, I’d use that focal length more often. I have a Sony A7RV which is a 61mp camera, it’s great. But I don’t carry it with me everywhere. The iPhone is the perfect carry camera for the type of photography that I shoot. I even have external LED light panels for portraits. It works well. Here is an example portrait taken with my iPhone and the Beastgrip 1.7x lens and a LED 8x10 light panel for the main light.

I found an app that removes all of the excess sharpening from the iPhone photos both Raw and jpeg called NOMO RAW. It’s quite fantastic and the clarity of my photos (ProRAW) have never been better.

 

[toobravetosave]

Caring about the performance and camera is fake anyway with how powerful tech is today

I just want usb c

 

[Bananasaurus]

Caring about the performance and camera is fake anyway with how powerful tech is today

That makes zero sense.

 

[RRC]

Caring about the performance and camera is fake anyway with how powerful tech is today

I just want usb c

It’s not fake, just doesn’t matter to you personally. To many, especially the camera it’s probably the most important aspect.

 

[toobravetosave]

That makes zero sense.

Then I shall clarify. Someone caring about the performance and camera quality of the iPhone is putting on a performance.

It’s almost 2024 and the phone processors and cameras are so incredibly powerful that if you’re actually still talking about performance and image quality gains then you are uncritically perpetuating the mad dash for infinite growth nobody needs

 

[toobravetosave]

It’s not fake, just doesn’t matter to you personally. To many, especially the camera it’s probably the most important aspect.

Sure bud, keep telling yourself the iphone 15 camera is sooooo much better than the iphone 14 camera

In fact its the most important aspect 😂

 

[Bananasaurus]

Then I shall clarify. Someone caring about the performance and camera quality of the iPhone is putting on a performance.

It’s almost 2024 and the phone processors and cameras are so incredibly powerful that if you’re actually still talking about performance and image quality gains then you are uncritically perpetuating the mad dash for infinite growth nobody needs

You clarifying doesn't help your point. Just because you don't need it doesn't mean other people don't. And no, phones are not powerful enough yet for certain tasks. There is a noticeable delay when taking RAW photos that makes it impossible to use for anything other than still photography. You have no idea what you're talking about. Yes, there are limitations with the size of the cameras that can't defy physics, but there are still improvements that need to be made. Current phones are overkill for most tasks, but when it comes to processing raw data in real time, there is still much that can be done.

 

[zachz]

Not going to lie, the closer we get to the keynote the less excited I am. I am currently on the 13 Pro Max and over the past few weeks Ive been looking at it and it really is perfect. Battery holds well, performance is adequate. I really dont need to upgrade.

However, I know that once I watch that keynote on Sept 12th ill be hooked again lmaoo. Plus it makes it much easier when my carrier is probably going to give $1000 off with trade in of my 13 PM.

I guess we'll see

Exactly the same with me, except I'm using an iPhone 13 mini. Everything works as expected, and for my needs I can't think of anything that could make my phone more useful. Actually, an iPhone smaller than the mini would be great but that is never going to happen...

Not excited at the moment, but the hype on the day of their Keynote will make me excited and want to upgrade even though I don't need or want a bigger/newer phone lol

 

[xxray]

I don't think I'd be as excited as I am if it weren't for the fact that I've been pretty unhappy with the 14 Pro series. There's really no one standout feature on the 15 Pro series I'm super excited for, but I'm just hoping the collective small upgrades make a noticeable improvement from the 14 Pro.

 

[Crow_Servo]

I’m on last year’s phone, so of course I’m not excited. But phones don’t excite me much anyways. I think there’s plenty of changes and improvements coming to the 15 to get people excited if they’re in the market for a new iPhone. The rumors suggest this will be another solid year.

Also, of course Apple will upgrade the Apple Watch Ultra. Why wouldn’t they? They want to at least update the processor each year, and this year we might get a new color option.

You can’t expect the world from each new release. Expect a few changes, and be surprised when there’s more than that. Honestly, there’s usually a decent number of changes every year, so even those who get a new one every year can be happy.

My favorite product line from Apple is the iPad lineup. I love the iPad Mini, so I’m curious what they’ll change on that one when the eventual 7th gen is released.

The iPad Pro is also on my radar, for me to upgrade from my previous gen Air. I anticipate next year’s iPad Pros, since those are expected to get a redesign. It’s nice that the Mini and Pro don’t get upgraded every 12 months typically, so those are even more interesting to follow.

 

[mikehalloran]

Since there's not going to be an iPhone 15 Ultra, why was this thread started?

There's a wild rumor that an iPhone Ultra with the 3D imagingcamera slated for the VR headset might exist, maybe… someday… but no one is expecting it to be announced next week.

Oh, not planning to own a VR headset ever, I would have no use for such a phone.

 

[mikehalloran]

I’m on last year’s phone, so of course I’m not excited. But phones don’t excite me much anyways. I think there’s plenty of changes and improvements coming to the 15 to get people excited if they’re in the market for a new iPhone. The rumors suggest this will be another solid year.

Also, of course Apple will upgrade the Apple Watch Ultra. Why wouldn’t they? They want to at least update the processor each year, and this year we might get a new color option.

You can’t expect the world from each new release. Expect a few changes, and be surprised when there’s more than that. Honestly, there’s usually a decent number of changes every year, so even those who get a new one every year can be happy.

My favorite product line from Apple is the iPad lineup. I love the iPad Mini, so I’m curious what they’ll change on that one when the eventual 7th gen is released.

The iPad Pro is also on my radar, for me to upgrade from my previous gen Air. I anticipate next year’s iPad Pros, since those are expected to get a redesign. It’s nice that the Mini and Pro don’t get upgraded every 12 months typically, so those are even more interesting to follow.

Yea... If the 15 Pro camera has a significant upgrade such as lower light and a 10x zoom lens before digital enhancement, I'm in. Otherwise, my 13 Pro is a very nice phone and I'll wait out another year.

Apple Watch needs a blood glucose monitor before I'm interested. Apple has the tech (bought it years ago) but the US Government and EU are requiring that Apple certify the Watch as a medical device first and Apple refuses to take on that kind of liability. Till then, my analog watch tells time which is all I really need a watch to do.

As for the iPad, when there's an app that I want that I can't use on my 2nd gen, iPad Pro, then I'll consider an update. Talked my phone company insurance out of a new battery a couple months ago so I'm in no particular hurry.

 

[Ralfi]

i just got a iPhone 14 Pro Max 256

but im not yet sold on a day one purchase if at all yet!

That’s because YOU GOT AN IPHONE 14 PRO MAX 8 MONTHS AGO.

I’m not sure if you’re aware, but buying a new flagship phone every year is a waste of three things;

• Money
• Expectations
• Usage of your current excellent device

FCOL, you’re thinking of ditching the 14PM after only 8 months? Have some self control. You don’t need the 15PM/Ultra.

 

[mikehalloran]

The only change that will make iPhone exciting to me and switch to it from Android is if they open it up like virtually any other operating system. I want to be able to install apps outside of a single store. Not an Apple hater btw, I love mac and wouldn't swap it for any PC.

Problem is that there's a huge list of iOS apps used by pros in many fields that have no Android version. The reason is that Android is a development and support nightmare by comparison.

Count me among the throng of those who most definitely do not want iOS to 'open…up'. Then it becomes 'like virtually any other operating system'. No thanks.

Not an Android hater but many of the apps I use are only found on iOS and iPadOS.

I am not talking about small time developers. Large companies, too. Here in the Silicon Valley, I hear this a lot. As the head of development for Yamaha/Steinberg put it:

Qt does support Android, and indeed Steinberg produces its Cubasis DAW for Android as well as for iOS. We have certainly considered building Dorico for Android, but the experience we have so far with Cubasis for Android suggests that, despite the installed base of Android devices being larger than iOS devices in the world, the return on investment would be many times lower than it would be on iOS, and that makes it hard to justify given our small development team that is already spread pretty thinly over the three platforms we support (even with all of the invaluable help that being able to build on Qt provides).

We certainly don’t rule it out, but it’s not something we are likely to be working on in the immediate future.