Let me rephrase the question in the heading:
If your parents pass away, will it stop you from prospering?
If your parents pass away, will it stop you from prospering?
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Is Apple dying without Steve
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I was simply saying that if $35 million is the worth of a product, than Microsoft blows Apple out of the water.
Apple's rarely delivered hardware that I couldn't beat building it on my own. Perhaps their mobile devices change that but anyone who's built their own computers can deliver better hardware.
Apple's strength is software which is used to entice people to buy their hardware which has the profit in it because they don't go crazy with RAM, storage and the fastest GPU.
Are you (anagram of your name) did you not type this on a lovely shiny MBP/AIR?
Apple has always been about wrapping whatever hardware they want inside a pretty package. Who cares about specs when your fanatical following will buy no matter what?
Believe whatever you want to believe. You're incorrect, however.
I think that the metric the OP implies shows just how alive Apple is, and not at all dying.
Others have cited market cap, and there's also a recent survey noting that it's the most valuable brand in the world. Most any company would love to be in Apple's place.
But the fact that a fanboy like the OP still views Apple as something other than a company that exists to make profits for its owners shows how valuable Apple is. It is really hard to keep that cult status when you're as big as Apple. Exxon, at the same size by capitalization, must be envious...don't see any Exxon stickers on cars....
Rob
Others have cited market cap, and there's also a recent survey noting that it's the most valuable brand in the world. Most any company would love to be in Apple's place.
But the fact that a fanboy like the OP still views Apple as something other than a company that exists to make profits for its owners shows how valuable Apple is. It is really hard to keep that cult status when you're as big as Apple. Exxon, at the same size by capitalization, must be envious...don't see any Exxon stickers on cars....
Rob
A computer is more than the sum of its parts though and very few people want to research, spec out, build, troubleshoot, repair and maintain their own computers. They want to pluck something off the self that they think will fit their needs and comes w/a warranty and tech support in case something goes wrong.
IMO Apple's strength is the user experience which is a marriage of first party hardware and first party software which has produced the full Apple ecosystem we have today. Apple's strong first party software was born out of necessity around the turn of the century when they were losing third party support and Macs only had something like 1.5% of the market.
More on point. It's w-a-y too soon to see how well Apple functions w/o Steve. Honestly, I don't think we'll truly start getting an idea for at least 5yrs.
Lethal
There is zero indications that Apple is falling after Jobs.
Jobs set up the Apple product pipeline for the next 5 years.
Ask this question in 7-8 years.
Jobs set up the Apple product pipeline for the next 5 years.
Ask this question in 7-8 years.
Is Apple dying? Really? Seriously? Oh man, i've seen it all now. Apple is probably going to be the first trillion dollar company, but they're "dying" because Jobs is no longer there. Oh man.
Trillion dollar company? How the hell do you see that happening?
Apple is neither. Apple is a systems vendor. They sell you a hardware/software combo. They make their money on selling systems which are vertically integrated.
Question is
If you could buy just OS X and run it on other hardware would you do this or buy a prefabbed Mac?
If you could buy just OS X and run it on other hardware would you do this or buy a prefabbed Mac?
What does that question have to do with Apple's status as a systems vendor and not as a software vendor as you initially claimed ?
Apple is not a software company. Their field of operations is vertically integrated systems. You were wrong like miles told you, just admit it and move on.
I would buy a non pre fabbed Mac.
Apple = Under powdered hardware, for crazy money. In a pretty case. Its that simple. As it stands right now, OSX has NO advantages over Windows 7
Personally, I run a couple PCs, and a couple Power PC macs, and a, brand new iMac. Money isn't an object for me on this level. But for many people it is.
I would NEVER recommend a Mac to someone on a budget.
I'm the opposite. Broke people don't have money to waste and therefore it makes more sense for them to buy Mac which cost less money over its lifetime.
I'm curious... how does it cost less over it's lifetime? what exactly do you do with a regular laptop that causes it to cost more later?
Software upgrades. Now that OS X has been reduced in cost the ROI on Macs should improve versus a Windows based PC which still comes with some hefty upgrade. Not needing Anti-Virus helps as well.
First of all, why are you paying for an antivirus?
Secondly, It's important to take into account that even though new versions of Windows are more costly, they are less frequent, and you are not forced to upgrade. Also, you've already paid a premium for the Apple hardware, so paying for the new versions of Windows is really more of a catch up in terms of costs.
It's waaay too early to tell. SJ's leagacy will influence Apple for quite a while yet. Give it two, maybe three years, and then we'll really see what Apple becomes without its founder - again. 
That's not necessarily true. When it comes to people on a tight budget, I suggest they do their research. That's the important thing. Don't just walk into best buy and let some random sales person tell you what you need. I used that reference because I've gone there at times when I needed something random that day. Whenever I overhear product advice from one of them, it's consistently terrible. Being on a budget just means it's important to understand your total needs in terms of necessary software and hardware. This includes everything. It includes backup devices, additional ram if necessary, software, etc. I'm aware that most people don't bother to figure that out, but if they're on a budget, they really should consider it.
By the way, the software upgrade comment is just stupid. Windows 7 will be supported for many years. You can pretty much run that over the life of the device and not bother. Who really bothers with this?
How do you figure that? The hardware on a PC tends to be cheaper....cheaper to expand....Microsoft supports is software for 10 years....everything is cheaper.
Nope
Software is cheaper on Macs. I just bought 10+ quality apps for about a $1.50 each. Lion is $30 ...there is no Windows 7 upgrade that cheap.
Mac cost less in maintenance as well. No anti-virus needed, no crapware installed that ask for money.
Macs are definitely cheaper and more reliable over the long run which is why Apple has taken back share and dominates the high ASP market.
Those with limited budgets would do better to invest in a more stable platform even if it cost more up front.