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Is Apple turning into Microsoft?
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Tripe like this always accompanies a new OS release
New release bashing is a sport and you have to do it to be cool
Where is the fun in writing about "it just works"
When SL was released there were screams emanating from the pits of hell
Now SL is hailed as the greatest OS and Lion is the spawn of Satan
New release bashing is a sport and you have to do it to be cool
Where is the fun in writing about "it just works"
When SL was released there were screams emanating from the pits of hell
Now SL is hailed as the greatest OS and Lion is the spawn of Satan
Lion broke a few things around here as well...
1 - NAS - easy fix with new LaCie firmware
2 - Crashplan - easy fix with JVM download
3 - VNC - none of my iPad VNC apps work with Lion yet
Lion is not the first Apple OS that has caused me to run out and buy hardware to install it. Leopard was the reason I found out about putty knives to upgrade Mac Mini memory. Lion has led me to upgrade the memory in all our Minis again. I don't see Apple turning into Microsoft because of this. I picked up the phone, called AppleCare and found out I get 90 days "grace period" on all my 4+ year old hardware because I purchased Lion. Try that with Microsoft.
1 - NAS - easy fix with new LaCie firmware
2 - Crashplan - easy fix with JVM download
3 - VNC - none of my iPad VNC apps work with Lion yet
Lion is not the first Apple OS that has caused me to run out and buy hardware to install it. Leopard was the reason I found out about putty knives to upgrade Mac Mini memory. Lion has led me to upgrade the memory in all our Minis again. I don't see Apple turning into Microsoft because of this. I picked up the phone, called AppleCare and found out I get 90 days "grace period" on all my 4+ year old hardware because I purchased Lion. Try that with Microsoft.
Microsoft gives you "90 days of Microsoft Support Services included" with a copy of Windows, too. You don't need to try anything, it's included
Apple could give 90 days of support too if they charged what Microsoft does.
New stuff breaks old stuff on computers. Always has, always will.
The reason we get pissed is because we hate to be surprised when it's our stuff, our important stuff that breaks. And Apple, because they are a big uncaring corporation in it for the $$, rarely acknowledges any problems. They are now much bigger than MS, and they act like it.
Take the OP's example: Apple hasn't acknowledged a problem, but the developer of Ubercaster has, and immediately committed to working on a fix to what appears to be Apple's mistake. Same is true with VNC (although more of a change in procedure than a bug); the small developers have been far more helpful than Apple.
I like Apple's stuff. But the more they control, the worse for us. Sure it makes for a uniform user experience, but they are now the drones on the screen, not the hammer thrower.
Rob
The reason we get pissed is because we hate to be surprised when it's our stuff, our important stuff that breaks. And Apple, because they are a big uncaring corporation in it for the $$, rarely acknowledges any problems. They are now much bigger than MS, and they act like it.
Take the OP's example: Apple hasn't acknowledged a problem, but the developer of Ubercaster has, and immediately committed to working on a fix to what appears to be Apple's mistake. Same is true with VNC (although more of a change in procedure than a bug); the small developers have been far more helpful than Apple.
I like Apple's stuff. But the more they control, the worse for us. Sure it makes for a uniform user experience, but they are now the drones on the screen, not the hammer thrower.
Rob
Aren't corporations supposed to make money? Yeah, by the looks of Apples stock price, they must not be making their customers happy.
Apple could give 90 days of support too if they charged what Microsoft does.
Apple rips people off on the cost of the hardware which includes all the software bundled in. Apple is certainly not cheaper.
Apple could give 90 days of support too if they charged what Microsoft does.
How much is it to buy OSX to use on Asus notebook? Could you just pop in the disk and do a clean install? Or since Lion isn't on disk, can you download it from the app store? How well does it work on non Apple hardware?
Care to elaborate on why you think Microsoft has the wrong philosophies when it comes to how people should be using tech?
From an enterprise point of view, Microsoft wipes the floor with Linux and OSX, I am not saying they are not used in enterprise, but the sheer ease of deploying oh I dont know a service pack or new software to multiple machines is an utter doodle compared to OSX.
Granted apple have got a good mobile space with the iphone, but that is stagnating, its closed, it has had no innovation since the original release, a speed bump and features added that have been around for years on other phones.
I would say neither of their philosophies are wrong, just people use technology in different ways.
Kimbie
I'd say the introduction of Retina Display in 2010 was a big innovation. Who knows what Apple has up it's sleeve for the IP5? Guaranteed it's something none of us could imagine and it will "change everything again".
Because nobody had produced 300dpi on a screen before. Much less found a way to produce millions of them.
To be fair they were not the first to do a hi rey screen and greater dpi screens on phones were out before hand.
But giving the iPhone changed smartphones apple has not really added anything innovating since thing on phones. That has gone to everyone else who has done that. Apple has either been playing copy cat/adding things that should of been there on day 1.
The os and the device has changed very little since the first iPhone in terms of ui
This...
Not to mention its the DEVELOPERS responsibility to update their apps, not Apples. Developers had a long time to make their apps compliant.
Actually no there wasn't anything that matched it on the market. This was already beat to death on another thread and the closest handset was I believe a Sony or an HTC but it still didn't match the resolution of the iPhone 4, which did in fact have the densest screen when it was released.
Because there's a fruit logo on the back.
Seriously when apple release a product or an update, people crow and go on how innovative it is. Just look at how people received iOS 4's multitasking. From the sounds of a number of folks, its like they invented multitasking.
Reason: it works.
This is part of the the reason even the lowly 3GS sells so well.
The "lowly" 3gs is only one generation old, so to be honest, I would hope iOS works on those phones.
This ^
Nothing wrong with well-considered, constructive criticism. The problem is that it is only cool to criticize. Anything supportive makes you a fanboy.
Exactly. Lion was released in beta for developers months ago. If Apple or Microsoft would stop updating technology in order for all old applications to work, we would still be in the dark ages. New operating systems have always broken old stuff. (Unless it was just a 'touch up' upgrade.)
