iPhone X Is iMessage the main reason you are sticking with the iPhone?

[FFR]

No I’m not disputing the facts of the case I’m just saying I can understand how someone may have that impression as that’s how it was widely reported by the media at the time. Remember these were celebs so it would have been widely reported in the tabloids because that’s what they write about, celebs.

Doesn’t really matter how old the articles are. The point I was making was that it was incorrectly reported by the media at the time. However I think you know that.

Media was reporting on everything.

"Google threatened with $100m lawsuit over nude celebrity photos "
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/02/google-lawsuit-nude-celebrity-photos

Again both gmail and iCloud accounts were compromised.

"Herrera used their usernames and passwords to illegally access their iCloud and Gmail accounts"

But he not only keeps mentioning the articles that leave gmail out but he tries to make it seem like iCloud is insecure...I think you know that.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Media was reporting on everything.

"Google threatened with $100m lawsuit over nude celebrity photos "
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/02/google-lawsuit-nude-celebrity-photos

Again both gmail and iCloud accounts were compromised.

"Herrera used their usernames and passwords to illegally access their iCloud and Gmail accounts"

But he not only keeps mentioning the articles that leave gmail out but he tries to make it seem like iCloud is insecure...I think you know that.

Media was reporting on everything.

"Google threatened with $100m lawsuit over nude celebrity photos "
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/oct/02/google-lawsuit-nude-celebrity-photos

Again both gmail and iCloud accounts were compromised.

"Herrera used their usernames and passwords to illegally access their iCloud and Gmail accounts"

But he not only keeps mentioning the articles that leave gmail out but he tries to make it seem like iCloud is insecure...I think you know that.

I was just trying to be fair to him because he didn’t just make it up. It was something that happened even if he was leaving out some of the details.

And as I said it was about the poor quality of their answers to security questions which made it easy for these individuals to get to the photos. Because they were relating the things that were widely know in the public domain.

I actually did not pay much attention to it at the time because I knew that it was due to weak measures on the part of ten celebs and not being a celebrity myself o knew nobody was interested in my pics.

 

[FFR]

I was just trying to be fair to him because he didn’t just make it up. It was something that happened even if he was leaving out some of the details.

And as I said it was about the poor quality of their answers to security questions which made it easy for these individuals to get to the photos. Because they were relating the things that were widely know in the public domain.

I actually did not pay much attention to it at the time because I knew that it was due to weak measures on the part of ten celebs and not being a celebrity myself o knew nobody was interested in my pics.

You were trying defend his point.

Again both gmail and iCloud accounts were compromised and he wanted it to make it look like it was only iCloud, and that iCloud itself was insecure. That’s not leaving out some of the details.

it had nothing to do with thier security questions.

It was a phishing attack.
The celebs gave him their usernames and passwords.

 

[Shanghaichica]

You were trying defend his point.

Again both gmail and iCloud accounts were compromised and he wanted it to make it look like it was only iCloud, and that iCloud itself was insecure. That’s not leaving out some of the details.

it had nothing to do with thier security questions.

It was a phishing attack.
The celebs gave him their usernames and passwords.

Well I actually didn’t know anything about gmail being involved but as I said I didn’t pay a lot of attention to it at the time because I knew that it had nothing to do with the security of iCloud.

But gmail being involved isn’t surprising as we know that developers have access to gmail accounts.

 

[FFR]

Well I actually didn’t know anything about gmail being involved but as I said I didn’t pay a lot of attention to it at the time because I knew that it had nothing to do with the security of iCloud.

But gmail being involved isn’t surprising as we know that developers have access to gmail accounts.

If you haven’t paid much attention to it why are you defending this?

Those are in iCloud

And iCloud has a history of leaking huge amount of those out. And history has a tendency to repeat again.

This poster was asked to prove what he stated as fact.

I was just trying to be fair to him because he didn’t just make it up.

You can’t be fair if you don’t know what your talking about.

And yes he does just makes stuff up.
Just look through his post history.

 

[Shanghaichica]

If you haven’t paid much attention to it why are you defending this?



This poster was asked to prove what he stated as fact.

Because what he was referring to was in the public domain not something that he’d just completely made up.

It’s like if someone talks about Samsung phones blowing up. The details of that statement can be disputed but some Samsung phones did blow up.

Anyway we have gone way off topic now.

 

[FFR]

Because what he was referring to was in the public domain not something that he’d just completely made up.

Uh no that’s what you referred to.

This what he said:

Those are in iCloud

And iCloud has a history of leaking huge amount of those out. And history has a tendency to repeat again.

Would you like to post any articles where iCloud was responsible for “leaking” huge amounts of data?

Yeah he “just makes it up”

It’s like if someone talks about Samsung phones blowing up. The details of that statement can be disputed but some Samsung phones did blow up.

Anyway we have gone way off topic now.

Some??
Seriously.
Most of the times Samsung phones blow up people post sources.
Like with the s9, i even posted the video of the phone catching on fire along with the the article.

He doesn’t.

Which is why he was asked to post sources iCloud “leaking” huge amounts of data.

 

[Grimham]

If you haven’t paid much attention to it why are you defending this?



This poster was asked to prove what he stated as fact.



You can’t be fair if you don’t know what your talking about.

And yes he does just makes stuff up.
Just look through his post history.

She never gives up when she is wrong. lol

 

[eoblaed]

Don't get me wrong. I really like my iPhone X, but I don't love it. Mainly because I am getting board with iOS and the lack of customization. However, iMessage is the main thing keeping me on the iPhone (even though I am fully in the Apple ecosystem).

I know people will say you can use other apps to do messaging, but having iMessage as the stock messaging system is key for sending pics and videos to family and friends.

Just a thought on this sunny Friday...

iMessage is one of the many, many things that keep me on iPhone/iOS.

The tight integration between all my devices in all the myriad ways is something I won't give up, either.

Oh, and the fact that Android is a wet sock full of dog poo is another.

 

[mib1800]

Oh, and the fact that Android is a wet sock full of dog poo is another.

So well said.

 

[Martyimac]

I can't say that iMessage is the main thing that keeps me on the iPhone. But it is one of the big ones. I also include contact syncing across all my  gear. After that, my unfamiliarity with Android is right up there.

 

[44267547]

I can't say that iMessage is the main thing that keeps me on the iPhone. But it is one of the big ones. I also includes contact syncing across all my  gear. After that, my unfamiliarity with Android is right up there.

I think that’s a big part of it, unfamiliarity for those who have been using a certain platform for so long. Android is unchartered territory for a lot of heavy iOS users, and even if they were considering it, they’re not sure how they would like it if they were using iOS for so long. I think the same applies for android users who would convert toniOS, it’s just so different in terms of what they would be used to.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I think that’s a big part of it, unfamiliarity for those who have been using a certain platform for so long. Android is unchartered territory for a lot of heavy iOS users, and even if they were considering it, they’re not sure how they would like it if they were using iOS for so long. I think the same applies for android users who would convert toniOS, it’s just so different in terms of what they would be used to.

I agree. Even though I used android for 2.5 years before I came back to iOS. I’ve now been using iOS heavily for 4 years. I’ve bought android phones just to try alongside my iPhone but always end up selling the phone after only a few months of light usage. I can still use android but I feel much more comfortable using iOS now.

 

[mrex]

I agree. Even though I used android for 2.5 years before I came back to iOS. I’ve now been using iOS heavily for 4 years. I’ve bought android phones just to try alongside my iPhone but always end up selling the phone after only a few months of light usage. I can still use android but I feel much more comfortable using iOS now.

and it all depends on what you do with your phone... if i think all the things im usually doing with my phone, the operating system could be almost anything. i have no special needs to have either ios or android on my phone, but those are the options right now. most of the time im just using my phone making calls, taking some photos (when im not carrying my dslr), reading mails, news and writing some messages (sms, whatsapp, skype). that is about all i do with my phone and most of the time the phone is on the desk unused. everything i do is so basic and light usage nowadays that every os can do it and all those things im doing doesnt need me to access and use the os itself. it only needs me just to tap apps and use them. i see no differences when im using either of the phones (iphone or android).. couple years ago it was quite opposite. i didnt like the iphone at all, because it was (and it is) a phone that cant be customized all. i used hours and days just to customize widgets with zooper app for example - and it was a part of the fun. nowadays im customizing hours something else than my phone

so why do i pay more for iphone if i could do all things with a phone for 100e? only because i dont like the way google lets devs to handle privacy. today the app has no needs to access anywhere on my phone, tomorrow it is updated and if i want to update the app i need to give a full access to my messages (for example). some are relevant changes of course because the app wouldnt work as it was meant after the update. but sometimes when you turn some functionalities off, the app may crash because the dev was too lazy to design it to work fine when people turns off functions from privacy settings... then couple years ago i reported several times about many peculiar apps to google in play store and google removed all of them. how an earth those apps were able to pass the approval process especially when apps wanted to have all access from the beginning? shouldnt some one in google to check manually those apps having full priviledges before accepting them and reject them? a wallpaper image (app) with full access inluding sending messages and making phone calls, accessing the calender, contacts and the mail app? really? why google, why? some apps may be harmful, some may be just because it is the first app from the dev and he is just learning.. but still, rejecting them is part of the process to learn coding right.

 

[mib1800]

and it all depends on what you do with your phone... if i think all the things im usually doing with my phone, the operating system could be almost anything. i have no special needs to have either ios or android on my phone, but those are the options right now. most of the time im just using my phone making calls, taking some photos (when im not carrying my dslr), reading mails, news and writing some messages (sms, whatsapp, skype). that is about all i do with my phone and most of the time the phone is on the desk unused. everything i do is so basic and light usage nowadays that every os can do it and all those things im doing doesnt need me to access and use the os itself. it only needs me just to tap apps and use them. i see no differences when im using either of the phones (iphone or android).. couple years ago it was quite opposite. i didnt like the iphone at all, because it was (and it is) a phone that cant be customized all. i used hours and days just to customize widgets with zooper app for example - and it was a part of the fun. nowadays im customizing hours something else than my phone

so why do i pay more for iphone if i could do all things with a phone for 100e? only because i dont like the way google lets devs to handle privacy. today the app has no needs to access anywhere on my phone, tomorrow it is updated and if i want to update the app i need to give a full access to my messages (for example). some are relevant changes of course because the app wouldnt work as it was meant after the update. but sometimes when you turn some functionalities off, the app may crash because the dev was too lazy to design it to work fine when people turns off functions from privacy settings... then couple years ago i reported several times about many peculiar apps to google in play store and google removed all of them. how an earth those apps were able to pass the approval process especially when apps wanted to have all access from the beginning? shouldnt some one in google to check manually those apps having full priviledges before accepting them and reject them? a wallpaper image (app) with full access inluding sending messages and making phone calls, accessing the calender, contacts and the mail app? really? why google, why? some apps may be harmful, some may be just because it is the first app from the dev and he is just learning.. but still, rejecting them is part of the process to learn coding right.

Is it better in iOS? Maybe not. I thought iOS by default gives every app ALL permissions under the sky (unlike Android where app needs to declare which permissions beforehand). When the app accesses certain data like contact you are prompted. Android does the same too.

 

[FFR]

Is it better in iOS? Maybe not. I thought iOS by default gives every app ALL permissions under the sky (unlike Android where app needs to declare which permissions beforehand). When the app accesses certain data like contact you are prompted. Android does the same too.

It is it is quite clear you have never used an iPhone or iPad.

 

[decafjava]

Is it better in iOS? Maybe not. I thought iOS by default gives every app ALL permissions under the sky (unlike Android where app needs to declare which permissions beforehand). When the app accesses certain data like contact you are prompted. Android does the same too.

This is not true at all. Please either accept when people correct you or stop spreading, intentionally or not, FUD.

 

[FFR]

This is not true at all. Please either accept when people correct you or stop spreading, intentionally or not, FUD.

He has been corrected many times but he just doesn’t stop.

it’s intentional.

 

[KUKitch]

I agree. Even though I used android for 2.5 years before I came back to iOS. I’ve now been using iOS heavily for 4 years. I’ve bought android phones just to try alongside my iPhone but always end up selling the phone after only a few months of light usage. I can still use android but I feel much more comfortable using iOS now.

I started on the OG iPhone and switched to Android in 2010 w/the Nexus One because at the time I was also tired of iOS and the 'lack of customization'... although I usually jailbroke and had my different themes and all that... and then came back at the 5S and haven't really considered going back since. I got tired of all the custom ROMing I was doing and the fact that I would have to do that unless I was on Nexus phones (which I did quite like) in order to even get the latest versions. I just got sick of the grind of it all, and the iOS hardware got to be appealing again once TouchID came in and then the Plus and now I don't care anymore.

As for iMessage, it doesn't keep me in iOS by itself - but I can't see going away from it at this point, especially with my iPad and MBP as well. It is well-integrated and I hate the green bubbles! I can always go back and check out Android and appreciate the updates, but it's sorta like with Windows computers for me - if I had unlimited resources I would have them as secondary devices, but I don't AND I like my Apple stuff enough that I'd prefer to stick with it.

 

[purgatori_sakkara]

I'll be moving to the iPhone because I hate Google products---including Android---and because of the integration of the iPhone with other Apple devices. I've never actually used iMessages, as nobody I know actually uses it, so my contact list remains at a stable and steady 0.

 

[FFR]

I'll be moving to the iPhone because I hate Google products---including Android---and because of the integration of the iPhone with other Apple devices. I've never actually used iMessages, as nobody I know actually uses it, so my contact list remains at a stable and steady 0.

What phone are you currently using?

 

[purgatori_sakkara]

What phone are you currently using?

An ancient Samsung something-or-rather.

 

[FFR]

An ancient Samsung something-or-rather.

Ouch.
What model iPhone are you thinking about?

 

[mib1800]

It is it is quite clear you have never used an iPhone or iPad.

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This is not true at all. Please either accept when people correct you or stop spreading, intentionally or not, FUD.

Tell me where am I wrong? When developing ios app, the developer can use any of the permissions available. When installing the app, the user is not told what permissions the app is actually using. Only after install, you can check in settings. Theoretically, an app can make use of ALL the available permissions. The enforcement of the permissions are done when the app is run and access those permissions, then the user will be prompted to authorize.

This is similar to Android except that Android presents permissions at installation. In newer versions of Android critical permissions are not automatically allowed during installation. Just like iOS, user will be prompted to authorize permissions when app is run.

I was just replying to poster who implied Android permissions is like free for all.

 

[setsuka09]

I don't use iMessage a lot, in fact most of my inbox SMS are spams.

The UI, iOS simplicity, camera, durability & aftersale service are the reasons i make apple getting rich..