Not sure about your wife and son, but it's technically impossible to work with a mask, which is why Apple added a feature where FaceID recognizes a mask to go to the passcode option faster......So, I have a hard time believing that when FaceID wouldn't be able to take a 3D scan of their face with a mask on.
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For the occaisonal mobile gamer, 120hz would be fantastic if they can do it will improving battery life. And I think they can if they combine with variable refresh which is inherently more power efficient.Coming from the XS Max it is an "okay-Update" for me if there is no 120 Hz screen builtin. If there will be the new screen it is a must have. I still hope Apple will announce the 12 Pro Max with 120 Hz.
Our son said there was an update for that. Just tested with our son with a mask on no problems.
Interesting, so yall have a special version of iOS, I'm guessing because it doesn't even do that on iOS 14. And the phone must have something that can scan through the mask, which current iPhones don't have. If you are testing products for Apple, you might not want to post about it.
Not really. FaceID sometimes works for my dad even with his mask on. Pretty hit or miss, though.
Apparently you can retrain Face ID using half of your face covered for the first scan and then the other half covered for the 2nd scan. I did just that, and then set up an alternate appearance using no mask. It actually works about 75% of the time with a mask on but I have to make sure my face is slightly tilted to my left for some reason. Progress!
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12 is the best upgrade since iPhone 4/5/se as finally people can get a smaller phone with squared edges making it stylish and not slippery; off course this also goes for 6.1 and 6.7 versions but those are brick size which is fine for those that want that off course...12 will be a success like no other
regarding these so called leaks they are not leaks really but Apple intentionally leaks to bloggers and sites they own or pay for these things to so-called leak (everyone knows this and other companies do the same)
How are people able to say if the 12 is enough of an update when they haven't seen the official release. People were saying the same thing about the 11 Pros until they knew the battery life has been vastly improved, that alone was worthy for most of them to upgrade over, but it wasn't rumored.
I don’t of any sites that Apple owns or pays for leaks. Can you provide some more context and proof for those payments please?
Because real life doesn’t matter at MR. It’s all about assuming and guesswork and then declaring that my guess is better than yours.
.. Notch - I agree
.. Flat edges .. If you keep a case on your iPhone, the style of edge probably won't be noticeable, bezel too.
.. 120 Hz at full Rez .. I agree. I suspect they found too much battery drain with 120 Hz.
.. Battery size / A14 .. The A13 has 7nm technology, A14 has 5nm thus higher speed and less battery drain. Probably Okay.
.. 10 bit color display & 6.7" display .. If you buy the latter, you'll get the former.
.. There's also 5G and Lidar to consider.
I also have the 6.5" iPhone 11 Pro Max. Factoring in all the above, I think I'll wait before upgrading.
For the same reason these same people ;In this site) that Overly scrutinize Apple for every little thing that they didn’t do customizing to their liking. But the average consumer, all they see is camera upgrades and battery improvements. Literally, that’s the only two things that really matter to consumer that they understand, aside from choosing a color/storage.
For the average consumer, I expect the new body style is a bigger draw since it looks obviously newer. I expect even more stick to using their older phones until something goes wrong with it and it needs replacement.
Personally, I'm upgrading from the iPhone 7. Well, technically I'm on SE2 but that's a tricked out 7 anyway. I'm looking forward to the rumored 5.4" iPhone 12. I found Apple's 2018 and 2019 lineup to be either too big or too expensive (and all of them too heavy on clothes pockets).
They could, you know, not shrink the freaking battery and then claim not enough battery life. Just because the processor is more efficient doesn't mean you HAVE to have the same runtime like Apple is obsessed with. The 12 Pro Max from supply chain is rumored ot be 3,687 mah down from 3,969mah. I mean you shrink the battery nearly 10% and then cant figure out wh 120hz uses too much battery 🤷♂️
So a .2" bigger display and 5G (known battery sicker but a near 10% small battery, makes perfect sense Apple... 👍
Ive never held an iPhone and wished it was thinner....
The Pro Max is H 158 mm, W 77.8 mm, D 8.1 mm.
The S20+ is: H 161.9 mm, W 73.7 mm, D 7.8 mm.
So its 4mm taller, 4mm narrower, and .3mm thinner, roughly the same volume, but Samsung can get a 4500mah battery in there. I mean, cmon man. $2 trillion valuation and cant do it?
These newer displays like on the Note 20 are LTPO with variable refresh rate (like the Apple watch) They arent 120hz all the time. My guess is this is Apple being Apple and the cost was too high despite this being a $1000+ phone. And if rumors are to be believed $50 more expensive this year too ($1050/1150) Why incur more costs when they will sell tens of millions with a small spec bump? Classic Apple, that is why they have the majority of the smartphone profits while not shipping the most devices.
Ship it defaulted to 60hz. They can trust people in iOS 14 to set default mail and browser and understand all of that, but not a simple toggle for 60hz or 120hz (whatever plaint English wording they used for it with a warning may reduce battery life, same as everyone else does)?
5g and especially LIDAR are the 2 biggest gimmicks right now for a phone. I see no functional use for LIDAR from anyone with an iPad more than tinkering. And 5g wont be everywhere for years; a few percent of the US at least can use 5g now.
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That is true when you compare iPhones to the entire Android market, but individually iPhones sell very well indeed. When was the last time the Galaxy Note or S series outsold the equivalent iPhone despite having a better spec sheet? Could this be down to the point made numerous times to you that it’s the whole package including the OS that matters more to many consumers rather than hardware?
I don’t give a toss whether my phone has 120Hz, Lidar, 5G etc as long as it’s got iOS and is at a competitive price.
I actually do want 5G (in congested Los Angeles). That's really the only reason for me to get the iPhone 12. If not for that, the iPhone SE2 does everything I need.
I'm not even looking at competitive pricing vs Android just as long as it's not outrageously expensive (e.g. no $1K phones for me).
You have the small notch or the big ole bars on the top and the bottom like with the new iPhone see 2020. So honestly what is the big deal?????? Give me the notch since I don't have to the bezels. However, my husband wanted the look and feel of the bezels. It is what you're comfortable with I guess.
Sales mean zip notta zilch to the end customer. I (and 99.99999% os the consumer public) couldnt care if they sold 1,000 or 100,000,000. That means nothing to the purchasing customer; its a meaningless statistic. To the Apple board and shareholders, sure. The point there was solely that Apple has the highest profits wihout the highest shipments because they are cheap- that iss my guess why no 120hz this year. Didn't want to pay Samsung for the displays; the tried and true run of the mill ones are cheaper, hence = more profits.
Competitive price? So if they make this year's Pros $1050/1150 that is "competitive" to what else is on the market at that cost or less? Hardware at a lower price point is competitive these days; minus the processor. But what does a geekbench higher than a laptop actually MEAN to the end user? Little. Most real-world metrics show similar overall performance with the newest Qualcomm staff; within fractions of seconds and margin of error at least. And you can get a device that does 99% of what an $1100 iPhone does- big OLED (some high refresh, big battery, pretty good cameras- for half to 2/3 the iphone cost these days. Good phones are getting cheap and cheap phones are getting good.
You can't just say competitive iOS device; then your choices are pay the Apple price or not. Only 1 company makes them and is a nonsensical argument. If you MUST have iOS you pay the piper whatever they ask, for better or for worse.
Samsung just committed to 3 years of major OS updates, even for midrange devices. While not 4-5, but getting better. And arguably overall package superior hardware already. The reasons to choose Apple other than locked in the ecosystem are dwindling in recent years. iPhones arent "bad" but they are stagnant. And calling them "Pro" without any pro specs a true shame.
Sales mean nothing to the topic at hand. If innovation was sales based we'd still be on a 3GS device. Why improve when you can sell suckers hundreds of millions of the same old at a very low production cost? McDonald's sells hundreds of millions of crap burgers, that doesnt make them good or improving the good of cuisine. Consistent is about all you can say about it; which is Apple. Consistently mediocre lately. The last decent phone innovation was 2017 iPhone X and that was already years late to the OLED party as is; so not exactly fully commendable there
Sometimes technology as a whole needs to be pushed forward regardless of sales. Arguing AGAINST features/people asking for more for their high dollar being spent, when you dont HAVE to use them if you dont want to, is frankly nonsensical. No one is going to not buy an iPhone if it had a smaller notch or 120hz (which the plan was to let it be shut off per early iOS14 betas; and battery life mitigated by LTPO displays Samsung is already using. But we can go back to my argument that if Apple didnt shrink the dang battery there would be life to spare too)
High sales can get you in trouble too- complacency. Why change/push things forward if you can keep shoveling the same manure for big profits? R&D etc for new tech cost big $$$ and eats profits. To me Apple corporate culture is give them enough to keep our high profits; they have lost that Job's edge to push tech and into Cook's bean counter culture.
But I get it, there are plenty of people out there who will buy whatever Apple ships, or dont care about x/y/z feature as long as its iOS. Maybe that is part of the problem here too.....
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When I said competitive pricing I didn’t mean vs Android. I don’t compare them against each other as I have no interest in buying an Android phone. The competitive part is what price point I think the phone is worth. I don’t buy £1k+ phones as I don’t think they are worth the asking price for what I use them for.