Is it possible to get bored by Android as people get bored by iOS?

[Sdahe]

No... it doesn't happen with Android

 

[Calidude]

Many Android options are free with contract. Also many people only do web browsing and email on their phones which is platform independent. On top of that, if I don't want to think when I go to buy the phone, I say to the rep "I need to browse the web, email and text - give me the best phone you have." and the rep offers whatever he likes, whatever the store is pushing the rep to sell, or some other random decision process happens in the rep's mind.

You could have at least said that Android phones have made it to every carrier while iPhone still hasn't made it to every possible venue.

Those are good points, but I think people look at the iPhone and say: "that's too small and simple for me, I want something more".

If people really wanted to think as little as possible, they'd avoid Android like the plague as soon as they play with it.

 

[cynics]

Choosing simplicity when it comes along with functionality is the sign of intelligence. There's nothing particularly intelligent about bringing in too much complexity into ones life.

In fact it's rumored that some of our more gifted inhabitants of this Earth even eschewed romantic relationships in pursuit of their goals (Tesla, Sir Isaac Netwon, etc)

But more to the point the "more choice is better" meme is patently false. Everyone has a limit in how many choices they can juggle for a given subject.

A 10 year old just happens to have a smaller one than an adult.

Not having enough options and choices is just as bad.

I don't own a Mac because I don't like the mobile parts in the imac's, mini has nothing i need with tons of accessories and the Mac pro is too expensive for me to justify. If I had a bit more choice I'd certainly own one.

With android you have the choice to not do anything. Just leave it alone and use it exactly like an iPhone. Do nothing basically, which is the easiest thing in the world to do.

I do agree with you at the same time. Being swapped with choices/decisions is very annoying and can lead to no choice being made at all. I don't find that to be the case with android though.

 

[Mac.World]

Choosing simplicity when it comes along with functionality is the sign of intelligence. There's nothing particularly intelligent about bringing in too much complexity into ones life.

In fact it's rumored that some of our more gifted inhabitants of this Earth even eschewed romantic relationships in pursuit of their goals (Tesla, Sir Isaac Netwon, etc)

But more to the point the "more choice is better" meme is patently false. Everyone has a limit in how many choices they can juggle for a given subject.

A 10 year old just happens to have a smaller one than an adult.

You would make a good communist, comrade.

 

[nuckinfutz]

You would make a good communist, comrade.

Prefer German history versus Russia.

Not saying choice is bad but it does have its functional limit.

 

[Mac.World]

No this is patently¬false.

There is not a single model of Android that sells more than the iPhone. Android is carrier driven which is why their tablet initiative is all but still born. The majority of consumers will choose simplicity over complexity.

If Samsung only sold 3 phones, like Apple, do you think this would still be the case? Samsung, by itself sold more smartphones than Apple last quarter by a 2 to 1 margin. Apple profits more per phone and tablet, but that means nothing to the average consumer. No one buys a phone because of what a companies profit margin is for that phone.

As for the Android tablet initiative... You are confused about the difference between wifi and non-wifi tablets. One requires a carrier to receive data and the other does not. By the way, the iPad with 4G is "carrier driven". Sometimes, you make points that make no sense???

Lastly, the majority of users, you know the hundreds of millions that didn't buy an iPad or iphone last year, in favor of Android, would disagree with your simplicity over choice theory...... Comrade.

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Prefer German history versus Russia.

Not saying choice is bad but it does have its functional limit.

Prussia? Or do you prefer going back to pre-Roman Germania? Historically speaking.

 

[Carouser]

No one buys a phone because of what a companies profit margin is for that phone.

And how many are buying because of the OS (Android vs. iOS) rather than on price, or appearance, or what their friend said, or a specific app, or loyalty, or anything else?

I'm still waiting for a decent post that shows through evidence, not speculation, that a statistically significant number of people are buying their Android phone both (a) because it has Android and (b) because they feel Android offers them more choices.

Lastly, the majority of users, you know the hundreds of millions that didn't buy an iPad or iphone last year, in favor of Android, would disagree with your simplicity over choice theory...... Comrade

Like this above. It assumes that 'the majority of users' bought their Android phone (1) because it had Android and not some other reason, (2) that they actually had a meaningful choice to make between an iPhone and an Android phone (that both were available and reasonable options, and not just free with contract or bought by parents, or whatever - or you might as well say they bought an Android instead of an aircraft carrier or a loaf of bread), and that (3) they did so on the criterion of 'choice vs. simplicity'.

Look at that! Just endless assumptions in favour of a silly ego-stroke (Android users virtuously recognize how great choice is and iOS users have no choice at all, and this is why the respective phones sell) without anything substantive to back it up. But what can I expect from someone who thinks the paradox of choice has anything to do with Soviet Russia?

 

[cynics]

And how many are buying because of the OS (Android vs. iOS) rather than on price, or appearance, or what their friend said, or a specific app, or loyalty, or anything else?

I'm still waiting for a decent post that shows through evidence, not speculation, that a statistically significant number of people are buying their Android phone both (a) because it has Android and (b) because they feel Android offers them more choices.



Like this above. It assumes that 'the majority of users' bought their Android phone (1) because it had Android and not some other reason, (2) that they actually had a meaningful choice to make between an iPhone and an Android phone (that both were available and reasonable options, and not just free with contract or bought by parents, or whatever - or you might as well say they bought an Android instead of an aircraft carrier or a loaf of bread), and that (3) they did so on the criterion of 'choice vs. simplicity'.

Look at that! Just endless assumptions in favour of a silly ego-stroke (Android users virtuously recognize how great choice is and iOS users have no choice at all, and this is why the respective phones sell) without anything substantive to back it up. But what can I expect from someone who thinks the paradox of choice has anything to do with Soviet Russia?

Isn't the current most accurate example being the people in this conversation?

You prefer less choice and the simplicity of iOS. While he prefers Android for more choices and freedom from restrictions.

So he's currently very actuate with his assumption is he not? Sure it's not showing anywhere near the vast majority of users but the fact you fit into his statistic perfectly is saying something.

 

[Mac.World]

And how many are buying because of the OS (Android vs. iOS) rather than on price, or appearance, or what their friend said, or a specific app, or loyalty, or anything else?

I'm still waiting for a decent post that shows through evidence, not speculation, that a statistically significant number of people are buying their Android phone both (a) because it has Android and (b) because they feel Android offers them more choices.

Sorry, no one has the ability to read everyone's mind that buys into the Android OS. Statistical numbers of worldwide sales can be suggestive of preference to an OS, however. That said, I can do the same thing as you: I'm still waiting for a decent post that shows through evidence, not speculation, that a statistically significant number of people are NOT buying their Android phone both (a) because it has Android and (b) because they feel Android offers them more choices. Now prove me wrong! We can hypothesize all day long.

Like this above. It assumes that 'the majority of users' bought their Android phone (1) because it had Android and not some other reason, (2) that they actually had a meaningful choice to make between an iPhone and an Android phone (that both were available and reasonable options, and not just free with contract or bought by parents, or whatever - or you might as well say they bought an Android instead of an aircraft carrier or a loaf of bread), and that (3) they did so on the criterion of 'choice vs. simplicity'.

Look at that! Just endless assumptions in favour of a silly ego-stroke (Android users virtuously recognize how great choice is and iOS users have no choice at all, and this is why the respective phones sell) without anything substantive to back it up. But what can I expect from someone who thinks the paradox of choice has anything to do with Soviet Russia?

You presume to assume. Interesting though how you discount, or lack to acknowledge, this very thread as an example.
But what can I expect from someone that lacks the knowledge of the principles that were the foundation for the rise of communism. And "paradox of choice"? One word for you; Oxymoronisized. Makes about as much sense.

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Isn't the current most accurate example being the people in this conversation?

You prefer less choice and the simplicity of iOS. While he prefers Android for more choices and freedom from restrictions.

So he's currently very actuate with his assumption is he not? Sure it's not showing anywhere near the vast majority of users but the fact you fit into his statistic perfectly is saying something.

Data is ignored if it muddies the waters of ones opinion or supposition.

 

[Carouser]

Isn't the current most accurate example being the people in this conversation?

You prefer less choice and the simplicity of iOS. While he prefers Android for more choices and freedom from restrictions.

Where did I say I preferred iOS and where did I say it was because of "less choice"?

Sorry, no one has the ability to read everyone's mind that buys into the Android OS.

I accept the apology.

Statistical numbers of worldwide sales can be suggestive of preference to an OS, however. That said, I can do the same thing as you: I'm still waiting for a decent post that shows through evidence, not speculation, that a statistically significant number of people are NOT buying their Android phone both (a) because it has Android and (b) because they feel Android offers them more choices. Now prove me wrong! We can hypothesize all day long.

You made the positive claim "X is why people are doing Y". I'd like some evidence in order to judge the worth of your claim. There's no onus on me to prove the counterfactual when you give zero evidence to defend your claim, I can just write it off right away. To be clear about it, the things you are writing could just as well be random strings of letters, because you haven't shown then to be tethered to reality in any way whatsoever. Your argument is "Lots of people bought Android phones. They bought them because Android offers choice. How do I know this? Because lots of people bought Android phones!".

You presume to assume. Interesting though how you discount, or lack to acknowledge, this very thread as an example.
But what can I expect from someone that lacks the knowledge of the principles that were the foundation for the rise of communism. And "paradox of choice"? One word for you; Oxymoronisized. Makes about as much sense.

This thread is an example of you shoring up your intuitions, that's all.

 

[cynics]

Where did I say I preferred iOS and where did I say it was because of "less choice"?

Sorry, I got you confused with the other poster. So his example is only highly accurate, not 100% anymore.

 

[Mac.World]

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I am not the OP to this thread, nor do I have any onus to prove anything to you. You, however, prefer to argue that because you haven't seen any data, your assumptions must be correct. I think that reality Distortion Field is effecting you.

But here is a survey conducted by Apple for you. This is US based only though. http://m.bgr.com/2012/08/13/apple-survey-android-iphone-carrier-loyalty/

And this is from a little over a year ago:

By the way, I have very little stake in this. I don't give a crap why people choose the phone they do, or why. Nor was I the one demanding proof. I got an idea, why don't you show the world proof god exists. Because I say he doesn't and now you have the onus to prove me wrong. Enjoy.

 

[Calidude]

You would make a good communist, comrade.

I consider Communists to be among the lowest forms of human life, but there's nothing incorrect about saying that wanting simplicity in your life is a sign of intelligence.

However, simplicity in your daily life isn't the same as not wanting a phone that has functionality more similar to your desktop, which is what Android has.

 

[Sensamic]

Prefer German history versus Russia.

Not saying choice is bad but it does have its functional limit.

So I guess you're an average user, right?

You never answered my previous post. I guess it's because you knew you were wrong and couldn't argue my points.

Do you have a 1MB internet connection? Probably you don't need more speed, right?

You probably also have a 5Mpx camera, because there's really no need for better picture quality too.

And I bet you have a 30 inch tv in your home. Why would an average user need a bigger tv?

There's also no need for 4G. I bet the average consumer would be very pleased and happy with GPRS.

 

[Carouser]

I am not the OP to this thread, nor do I have any onus to prove anything to you. You, however, prefer to argue that because you haven't seen any data, your assumptions must be correct. I think that reality Distortion Field is effecting you.

By the way, I have very little stake in this. I don't give a crap why people choose the phone they do, or why. Nor was I the one demanding proof. I got an idea, why don't you show the world proof god exists. Because I say he doesn't and now you have the onus to prove me wrong. Enjoy.

I was just curious whether what people were typing was worthless or not. You don't have to do anything you don't want to (and I never said you did), but the burden of proof lies on the person making the positive assertion. This also shows your 'god' example to be silly, because if you're not making a positive assertion thus there is no burden of proof on your part (nor is there any obligation on the part of people who hear your nattering to prove the opposite of whatever you say). And your sources certainly don't support the major point of contention expressed in this thread, which is that people are selecting phones on the grounds of OS and the OS' amount of choice.

Thus, the claim that because I haven't seen any data, my assumptions must be correct, is a non sequitur. I haven't made any assumptions at all! I haven't said why people buy phones, or whether they prefer choice, or which OS offers more choice, or anything else. I'm just asking the people who gin up stories to back them up if they can, otherwise there's no reason to listen to them.

Do you have a 1MB internet connection? Probably you don't need more speed, right? [ETC]

What do quantitative technological changes have to do with anything he typed? This thread, hoo boy

 

[Mac.World]

I was just curious whether what people were typing was worthless or not. You don't have to do anything you don't want to (and I never said you did), but the burden of proof lies on the person making the positive assertion. This also shows your 'god' example to be silly, because if you're not making a positive assertion thus there is no burden of proof on your part (nor is there any obligation on the part of people who hear your nattering to prove the opposite of whatever you say). And your sources certainly don't support the major point of contention expressed in this thread, which is that people are selecting phones on the grounds of OS and the OS' amount of choice.

Thus, the claim that because I haven't seen any data, my assumptions must be correct, is a non sequitur. I haven't made any assumptions at all! I haven't said why people buy phones, or whether they prefer choice, or which OS offers more choice, or anything else. I'm just asking the people who gin up stories to back them up if they can, otherwise there's no reason to listen to them.

 

[Tech198]

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lol.

 

[NbinHD]

Certainly Android is getting better every day that passes, soon it will be the new Apple. Just give it time and fragmentation and stability will improve. At least I hope so, I love being able to customize my phone, and make it mine.

 

[golf1410]

I get bored on my iOS as well. No WOW so far since iPhone 4. I don't know why. Is it because of me or just Apple has come to the end of WOWing ppl? I don't Wow on iPhones anymore.

 

[protie]

So I guess you're an average user, right?

You never answered my previous post. I guess it's because you knew you were wrong and couldn't argue my points.

Do you have a 1MB internet connection? Probably you don't need more speed, right?

You probably also have a 5Mpx camera, because there's really no need for better picture quality too.

And I bet you have a 30 inch tv in your home. Why would an average user need a bigger tv?

There's also no need for 4G. I bet the average consumer would be very pleased and happy with GPRS.

VERY well said!

 

[Xiroteus]

People (most of us) seem to get bored with things easily. It works, does what it needs to do yet it is boring because it looks the same. As long as there are updates how important is the look? Not that I would mind seeing an update, we like things to look fresh and new.

 

[Calidude]

People (most of us) seem to get bored with things easily. It works, does what it needs to do yet it is boring because it looks the same. As long as there are updates how important is the look? Not that I would mind seeing an update, we like things to look fresh and new.

The commonly-stated boredom with iOS stems from the inability to do more with iOS than what Apple dictates, not the look of iOS itself.

Android is less boring than iOS because there simply is no restriction as to what you can do with Android.

 

[Xiroteus]

The commonly-stated boredom with iOS stems from the inability to do more with iOS than what Apple dictates, not the look of iOS itself.

Android is less boring than iOS because there simply is no restriction as to what you can do with Android.

That is one of the issues I have with Apple, basically stop telling me what I am suppose to want and allow me to do what I want to do. I cannot even delete the stock apps that are pre-installed.

I have only used an iPhone so I am not sure how much more these newer phones can do. (I am still on the 3gs) I can see how they need to catch up in a few areas.

 

[Calidude]

That is one of the issues I have with Apple, basically stop telling me what I am suppose to want and allow me to do what I want to do. I cannot even delete the stock apps that are pre-installed.

There's a lot of people on this forum who seem to think that users want to be told what to do, but I think they just want to do whatever they please and those that seem like they want to be told what to do are just people who don't care about their phone enough to try and make it do more.

Android's huge gains in market share speak to this. Only 18.8% of smartphone users around the world put up with the iPhone.

 

[Scrub175]

I really enjoy the few former iPhone users that professed to
have "seen the light" of Android and choose to hide behind the other OS subforum to continue to bash and post numbers about their beloved.

So to stay on topic, yes one can get bored of android. I started with android after the release of the first droid. I rooted and flashed dozens of roms. I even donated to the rom Dev's teams for their effort. I then moved to the droid x. Fantastic device despite the locked bootloader, which is now bypassed in some roms.

After the X was the big push to the thunderbolt which I saw the dev community salivating over. My problem was I had no upgrades so I went unsubsidized and experienced one of the best phones on Verizon. It was the best for me for two reasons it was very rom and kernel supported and solved the 3G surf/talk issue of Verizon's network. It was a god send and kept me from other devices that lacked this feature.

Next up was the razr, awesome device had the maxx came out first I would still be using it. Again it was limited by the bootloader but I hear a big workaround was discovered.

Tried the 4s for a weekend on release and returned it.

Can't forget the gnex. Fun device and amazing camera capture speed.

While swapping phones through that time I was plugged into the dev community as a writer for a couple of android forums as well.

So after the almost three years or so my iPad purchase changed my preferences and tastes. I was using the gnex and really missed the razr so I was about to purchase a maxx off contract and realized why do that again with android when my needs are evolving to iOS? So I again purchased the 4S but with a better understanding of the iPhone and not trying to use it as an android.

So today I'm still on the 4S. I did JB for a few days but feel all the functionality I need is there right out of the box. I haven't even changed the alarms or ringtones. I just enjoy the device.

Bottom line is not everyone that choose to use and stay with an iPhone is a non tech sheep. I got tired of bricks and roms that had broken features or bad battery life. I realized I can enjoy my phone without having to flash roms and the like all the time.

So for you few enlightened please visit the numerous other android sites rather than preach on the mound to the uneducated masses that you have the true path to enlightenment with your pseudo posts of other OS that have means to bash the forums focus that you choose to enlighten. Heck I know some mods and admins of android sites where you could even become a mod there too...

Peace be with you.