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Is m1 MacBook Pro 14 already “outdated” to be bought now?
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I've only just got one (MBP14) so no, not outdated.
Ask me again for an update in 5 years or so.
Ask me again for an update in 5 years or so.
Is that even a question @OP? Miss the first day release of MacBook Pro 14 = outdated.
What is wrong with you?
What is wrong with you?
I have the M1 Max 24 core and I totally understand your feeling of worrying about it being outdated once M2 drops. The way I negate that feeling is by remembering that the M1 Max is literally the fastest mac I have ever touched in my life. It is insane. So like yeah M2 might have a bit better thermals, but I can't imagine it'll be that crazy of a step up that M1 Max/Pro users will feel left out. Additionally, the resale value of the MacBook pros is going to be very good. So even if I suspect the M2 is a necessary upgrade, I can always cover like half the price by trading in.
Huh, what and why?
M1 is based the same cores as A14 which shipped 1 month before. So yeah it is 1.5 years old and not nothing dramatic has changed with A15 or will with A16 regardless of which of those 2 will share it‘s IP with M2.
there will be no new MacBook Pros until 2023 most likely. M2 will be little difference most likely. pro will always be better than air for most models
that said better chips are always around the corner
This. The subsequent updates will be incremental. These first m1/pro/max machines are the transformational leap that only happens a couple times in a lifetime.
I’m the one asking “what is wrong with you”.
I’m ok with Apple prices but also careful with new releases.
According to that price, if that's a store model, then you're looking at the M1 Pro 14" 10cpu/16gpu/16 GB RAM/1TB SSD
Well, if Apple follows the same timeline with M2 and M2 Pro releases as with M1, once the M2 kicks in, even if it happens at WWDC, there will be a gap close to a year before releasing M2 Pro, that puts the horizon in 2023. Of course, I could be wrong and they could present both chips at the same time, but as stated in a previous post, I highly doubt it. Maybe they short the timeline between M2 and M2 Pro, that it's more likely to happen IMHO, but not as close as 2 months.
There are rumours pointing out the possible new specs of the M2, these include higher single core speeds and a possible bump to the GPU cores. But that's all, it's meant to be a complete different beast from the M1 Pro. We don't know anything about mem bandwidth/max number of screens, etc.
So, summarizing, in the best case scenario, MB Air and MBP 13" are released within this year with M2. Even in that case, possibly M1 Pro will be still be better than M2 depending on your needs (GPU/memory speeds/etc.), then again, I don't think they're gonna replace the current 14"/16" models within this year, not just because they're still a top seller, but they're having serious difficulties since its launch, and specially these last weeks, to deliver them on time.
If this "supply" (please bear at me, trying to include all elemens in the chain in one word) situation continues, I think they'll delay some launches cause they need to afford to deliver a prospected number of sales, and before new 14/16, they'd still have to release:
- New Mac Pro
- New Macbook Air
- New Mac Mini ??
- New Macbook Pro 13" ??
With all these data and all the intel other members gave you, and if you need what that machine offers you, I think it's very safe to you to pull the trigger on that M1 Pro and get it soon.
edit: just saw the MacRumors front-page, check this news regarding shortage/delays.
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Missing HDMI 2.1. There are rumors of architecture limitations on the Thunderbolt controller which is why we are seeing slower than usual speeds.
This is exactly the reason why I won't buy another MBP, not until they make a better battery. I had the same problem with my last one. The battery began to swell into the third year of usage and there was a problem with the logic board. That all would have cost me $600 to repair. Now I am disillusioned with the MBP and have decided to buy the MBA. I realize that it, too, has a battery but I hope it doesn't have the same swelling problem as the MBP. Also, another friend had the same problem with his MBP with the battery swelling into the third year. It's not like these laptops are being abused or in any kind of poor environment. I find this unacceptable, considering the cost of it in the first place, and of course the Apple name.
Depends. Apple is not foreign to release products off cycle. Remember the original Intel core duo MacBook pro? It was released in January 2006. Then Apple updated the CPU with the core 2 duo in October of the same year, less than a year.
I think the 14 and 16" M1 pro/max took a while due to logistics and pandemic, and a complete redesign. But that was October 2021. I won't be surprised if Apple refreshed the line with M2 Pro/max this october, a year later. Won't be unusual. And since the new design is already done, Apple only need to replace the internal hardware, which would take less time to production.
The only wild card is COVID in China, as that is currently the bottleneck.
I think most on the forum are just tired of seeing posts like this. Your question comes up almost every week...
If you can wait then wait, if you need a computer then buy one. I really don't know what to say... if waiting half a year for the incremental upgrades the M2 might bring seem worth it to you then wait for the M2.
My MacBook Air M1 works great after buying 1 and a half year. As for me, M1 is not an outdated choice. Also, can you fully use all M2 new features? Or you just want to use the newest computer.
I’m sorry but there’s no reason to be tired as “boring” thread could be easily skipped. I read the newer posts and nobody asked about that.
I thought that I might not be the only one wondering about internal updates considering the product price.
And yes: even though M1 pro is fast and M2 pro would be a slight improvement I would be still newer. I personally prefer not to buy a piece of technology to see a newer release some months later.
You can't treat your MBP like it's rugged just because it's expensive. With any battery you buy, there's at least a random chance it's going to malfunction and if it keeps happening, chances are you have something to do with it.
Batteries in general are not amenable to challenging conditions. They don't like heat, humidity, or extreme cold. They don't like being kept fully charged all the time nor do they like being run so hard that they drain quickly. It has little to do with Apple.
I'm a battery killer. It's due to my heavy usage pattern and also because summers are hot here and I don't have good A/C. One of the reasons why I was so eager to upgrade to the M1 Pro MBP is because it doesn't generate the kind of heat seen in the Intel MBPs and doesn't suck down the battery as fast. This should finally allow me to have a computer that's not likely to suffer battery death prematurely.
If you're concerned about the battery being the weak link, you really should upgrade to an M1. The batteries in them are no better than the ones in your machine now, but the M1's won't put as much stress on the battery as your Intel Mac.
What is "rugged" battery treatment exactly?
My MBP has been sat on my desk for 90% of the time and carefully transported elsewhere for the occasional vacation for the other. Not quite sure how that qualifies as "rugged".
Well look at that 3rd qtr restraints going to get tighter and this is on the front page here.
If waiting for M2 don’t hold your breath as it’s going to be a longer wait with less available based on that read.
I got my 16' MBP on April fools day. I'm planning on keeping this thing for 5 years at the very least. From my perspective, having purchased it now or on the day it was announced really isn't a factor in it being "outdated" - I also opted for a very loaded model so that I could keep it longer.
Last 5+ years I've been getting base model or mid-line MBPs. They last a good 3+ years but after that I start feeling the limitations (ram usually). So I figured I'd get something a bit more hefty and try to keep it for 5+. We'll see how long 64GB of ram and a 4TB SSD lasts.
Outdated? Bit extreme imo. These are tools. Or if you will flatter me for a second - these are Starships of the line (Star Trek) - just because you didn't get them the day they left dry dock doesn't mean you can't use them for great things. Even Kirk used the old mostly damaged USS Enterprise to do great things with a skeleton crew! Trying to keep up with the latest and greatest of technology is a battle that only benefits one bank account - Apples.
Last 5+ years I've been getting base model or mid-line MBPs. They last a good 3+ years but after that I start feeling the limitations (ram usually). So I figured I'd get something a bit more hefty and try to keep it for 5+. We'll see how long 64GB of ram and a 4TB SSD lasts.
Outdated? Bit extreme imo. These are tools. Or if you will flatter me for a second - these are Starships of the line (Star Trek) - just because you didn't get them the day they left dry dock doesn't mean you can't use them for great things. Even Kirk used the old mostly damaged USS Enterprise to do great things with a skeleton crew! Trying to keep up with the latest and greatest of technology is a battle that only benefits one bank account - Apples.
Gotta be honest, I never understood this computer.
I would have stuck with the intel chips until the M1 Pro and Max were available and I'd have dropped the M1 by then.
Not so sure about the M2 Base Pro.
It probably won't be an amazing value considering an air would have the same chip, and if you don't need excessive performance (and want a mini-LED display), It'll probable make more sense to buy an M2 Pro, macbook pro.
I would have stuck with the intel chips until the M1 Pro and Max were available and I'd have dropped the M1 by then.
Not so sure about the M2 Base Pro.
It probably won't be an amazing value considering an air would have the same chip, and if you don't need excessive performance (and want a mini-LED display), It'll probable make more sense to buy an M2 Pro, macbook pro.
Short answer...no.
Long answer, it depends on the timing.
I'll explain.
With the way technology is progressing these days, if you want to enjoy your purchase for the longest, you have got to buy what you like soon after it's released.
I purchased my M1 Ultra Mac Studio the moment it was announced, and there are already many rumours of an M2 Ultra chip released this october.
I didn't even have a month to enjoy the idea of having the best chip apple makes.
Anyway, I'm saying this because it depends on your urgency.
If you can wait 6 months, I'd strongly recommend the updated M2 Pro/Max models, rumoured to be made available this autumn.
That said, if uou want to get an M1 Pro/Max now, you can rest assured it'll be supported for quite a while given the fact it's apple silicon.
I'd be more worried about people who purchased intel macs in 2020, as despite all the promises I don't see apple supporting the intel chips for longer, especially given how some Big Sur/Monterey features were apple silicon exclusive.
A little time ago there were some rumours of 2 mac pro models for 2022 (one apple silicon an one last intel model), however I feel apple will go full in apple silicon.
Long answer, it depends on the timing.
I'll explain.
With the way technology is progressing these days, if you want to enjoy your purchase for the longest, you have got to buy what you like soon after it's released.
I purchased my M1 Ultra Mac Studio the moment it was announced, and there are already many rumours of an M2 Ultra chip released this october.
I didn't even have a month to enjoy the idea of having the best chip apple makes.
Anyway, I'm saying this because it depends on your urgency.
If you can wait 6 months, I'd strongly recommend the updated M2 Pro/Max models, rumoured to be made available this autumn.
That said, if uou want to get an M1 Pro/Max now, you can rest assured it'll be supported for quite a while given the fact it's apple silicon.
I'd be more worried about people who purchased intel macs in 2020, as despite all the promises I don't see apple supporting the intel chips for longer, especially given how some Big Sur/Monterey features were apple silicon exclusive.
A little time ago there were some rumours of 2 mac pro models for 2022 (one apple silicon an one last intel model), however I feel apple will go full in apple silicon.
I was pretty worried about this unstable situation too.
I'm so glad I updated my whole setup (iPhone 13, Mac Studio M1 Ultra and Gaming PC) between November 2021 and now, as I don't want to live in the uncertanty of finding what I need; perhaps I could have saved a little by waiting, but better safe than sorry.
Before you think I'm a millionaire, it's useful to know the last time I did something like this was 2014.
All Li-ion batteries have the potential of swelling, it's not an Apple or MBP specific thing (remember the Samsung phone a few years ago?). Apple will fix that for free so I don't know why you said it would cost you $600.
That said, I have an Air and it's great. The default for anyone thinking "what Apple Macbook should I buy?" should be the Air and then they should look at what they do/plan to do in the next few years and ask if any of that means they should move up to a higher specced Pro. For the VAST majority of us, some version of the Air will be more than enough.