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Has anyone found Fairmount to be an acceptable alternative to MTR?

I wouldn't mind using MTR, but the licensing scheme is beyond what I am willing to put up with. The most I'll tolerate is a serial number, but that convoluted scheme makes me just rely on Linux to rip a DVD if forced.
 
Has anyone found Fairmount to be an acceptable alternative to MTR?

I wouldn't mind using MTR, but the licensing scheme is beyond what I am willing to put up with. The most I'll tolerate is a serial number, but that convoluted scheme makes me just rely on Linux to rip a DVD if forced.

The creator of MTR has to do what he does with the licensing scheme because of rampant abuse of the licensing system.

Typical abuse scenario:

- User sends in a $10 gift and gets a copy of MTR
- User gets his license via the automated process
- User then sends the copy of MTR with the .lic file to 40 of his friends or puts it on PirateBay.
- MTR creator see all of this abuse but people still expect him to work on MTR.

I'm not trying to make excuses for the guy... but I have to admit I'd do the same thing if I were under the same legal constraints he is to create this type of software.
 
Did it [Handbrake] work for 3:10 To Yuma?
Handbrake worked on my 3:10 to Yuma disk, just as it did on the other 50 odd disks I have ripped and converted to MP4. Because of the scare stories about Handbrake, I downloaded MtR but have had no cause to use it.
 
I'm still going to suggest DVDFab HD Decrypter and HandBrake on Windows if you have a fast machine laying around.

Considering you can get a quad core for a 1/4 of what Apple wants for one...

chobimaru handles my encoding work when I'm at home.
 
The creator of MTR has to do what he does with the licensing scheme because of rampant abuse of the licensing system.

Typical abuse scenario:

- User sends in a $10 gift and gets a copy of MTR
- User gets his license via the automated process
- User then sends the copy of MTR with the .lic file to 40 of his friends or puts it on PirateBay.
- MTR creator see all of this abuse but people still expect him to work on MTR.

I'm not trying to make excuses for the guy... but I have to admit I'd do the same thing if I were under the same legal constraints he is to create this type of software.

We're going to have Yet Another Copy Protection Discussion(tm).

Let us get the following out of the way:

1) Has any form of copy protection ever been successful at keeping media from being copied?

No.

AACS and BD+ are some of the most advanced forms of copy protection ever devised and the media they protect is still available via pirated channels.

There are some examples where those with the appropriate skills to crack the protection have not bothered to crack various pieces of software, but these should not be taken as examples where protection is successful. These are often small software vendors that escape the notice of pirates by simply not having large enough market share.

2) Has the elaborate licensing scheme prevented Mac the Ripper from being copied?

No.

It is still available via pirated channels.

3) Does the licensing scheme annoy users enough to keep them from purchasing the software?

I cannot speak for everyone else, but yes in my case. I just use alternatives in Linux when necessary due to the convoluted licensing scheme used by the software.

I can appreciate your argument, but the reality is that copy protection often annoys legitimate users more than pirates.
 
copy DVDs with MTR with Toast or DVD95 Copy Pro (windows)

I appear to have the most recent issue of MTR 3 (MacTheRipper) downloaded from Pirate Bay which I use to rip the whole DVD or the movie only. Then I use Toast 8 to copy the VTR video file to a blank DVD. MTR has not worked on some of the more recent DVDs like "The Golden Compass" or "The Darjeeling Limited" since there seems to be a lag in updating MTR.
Thus, I tried DVD95 Copy Pro (Windows program at $40 direct download), and it ripped the DVDs that MTR could not rip. It also copies the ripped file to a blank DVD. They seem to be keeping up with the subtle variations in encryption that the DVD industry keeps coming up with on the more popular titles. Also contrary to MTR, DVD95 Copy Pro is easy to order with a credit card, and the responders answer questions precisely and in a nice way. A lot of people seem to be vary unhappy with the way MTR operates and how difficult it is to download from the web site.
Cheers....
 
I'm not sure I want to go the hassle of paying and licensing MTR. I've heard a lot people have had issues with having to repay, re-up, phoning home, etc.

Is is worth it to go through all the crap to obtain MTR3 or is there a better alternative?

Also does MTR 2.6.6 work okay under leopard on an intel mac? Is there a big speed difference between 2.6.6 and 3.x?

I used to use MTR a couple years ago, but then started to just use HB. I'd like to start ripping multiple DVD's and queue encodes in HB.

Any thoughts?

I use ANY DVD and 1 Click DVD Pro, on my PC, both are flawless;)
No Mac version, sorry:rolleyes:
 
can't get MTR to recognize dvd

I just downloaded mtr and I can't get it to recognize my dvd. Anyone else had this problem?
 
oops-DVD95 Copy Pro apparently has shut down

I appear to have the most recent issue of MTR 3 (MacTheRipper) downloaded from Pirate Bay which I use to rip the whole DVD or the movie only. Then I use Toast 8 to copy the VTR video file to a blank DVD. MTR has not worked on some of the more recent DVDs like "The Golden Compass" or "The Darjeeling Limited" since there seems to be a lag in updating MTR.
Thus, I tried DVD95 Copy Pro (Windows program at $40 direct download), and it ripped the DVDs that MTR could not rip. It also copies the ripped file to a blank DVD. They seem to be keeping up with the subtle variations in encryption that the DVD industry keeps coming up with on the more popular titles. Also contrary to MTR, DVD95 Copy Pro is easy to order with a credit card, and the responders answer questions precisely and in a nice way. A lot of people seem to be vary unhappy with the way MTR operates and how difficult it is to download from the web site.
Cheers....

The DVD95 Copy Pro web site has apparently shut down so any purchased software does not activate. I switched to DVDFab HD Decrypter 5.0.7.6 (http://www.dvdfab.com/free.htm) since it is a free Windows download that copies even the latest movies, but it does not record the movies to DVDs. Then I copy them to a DVD using Toast (macintosh). This site also has other software versions that both record and copy movies to DVDs at a minimum cost of $40. By the way, a person at DVDFab said that the DVD95 Copy Pro software was stolen from them!
 
another

Another option:

I bought DVD2oneX as soon as they offered it. A bunch of PC developers that went out of their way to buy a Mac and develop a Mac version of the DVD9 to DVD5 shrinking app. I support these guys because their app is great and they did Mac DVD shrinking before anyone else, including Toast and Popcorn.

Here is a thread on the Handbrake forums on how to rip VIDEO_TS folders with DVD2oneX (paid), Fairmount (free), and VLC (free).

http://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2937
 
Sorry to be so late to this thread, but I'm not a frequent forum-goer. Anyhow, people who defend MacTheRipper's developer are funny.

Here is an application devoted to negating user-hostile anti-copying measures and onerous DRM.........which requires jumping through Kafkaesque user-hostile hoops as bad or worse as those that the application itself was made to work around. And then he complains when users break them and copy his software.

"Delusional" doesn't even begin to cover it.
 
I challenge anyone here who thinks they can do better to go and attempt to do so. That's the beauty of capitalism.

I don't defend the guy... just state his perspectives on it and I understand and respect them. No one puts a gun to your head and makes you buy it.
 
I challenge anyone here who thinks they can do better to go and attempt to do so. That's the beauty of capitalism.

I don't defend the guy... just state his perspectives on it and I understand and respect them. No one puts a gun to your head and makes you buy it.

But if he is, in fact, breaking the open-source licensing agreement (I've heard he is), then shame on him.
 
Sorry to be so late to this thread, but I'm not a frequent forum-goer. Anyhow, people who defend MacTheRipper's developer are funny.

Here is an application devoted to negating user-hostile anti-copying measures and onerous DRM.........which requires jumping through Kafkaesque user-hostile hoops as bad or worse as those that the application itself was made to work around. And then he complains when users break them and copy his software.

"Delusional" doesn't even begin to cover it.

It is ironic that he makes a program to copy DVDs and yet has problems with too many people copying his software. :)

It would have fit right into a Sopranos episode.

Great programs though.
 
Did it work for 3:10 To Yuma? Like you said, 99% of the time. What if more new releases get the scheme 3:10 has?

I got HB to work for 3:10 to Yuma - it took an additional 5 minutes of research and they've posted a way around the issue, which worked just fine for me. See here: http://forum.handbrake.fr/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5569

I've been successful getting anything ripped with HB, so I see no reason to use MtR.
 
I've been successful getting anything ripped with HB, so I see no reason to use MtR.

HB and MtR do two completely different tasks. You didn't get HB to rip anything. You got it to encode your DVDs into a different format (like mp4). MtR rips the disc to the full-quality Video_TS folder and removes the copy protection. Apples and Oranges. For some, HB does what they need, for others, they need MtR (or Fairmount).
 
Has anyone found Fairmount to be an acceptable alternative to MTR?

I like fairmount a lot. It is about the same speed as MTR (about 45 minutes a disk on my iMac), but will decode any dvd you can play with VideoLan (almost everything).

But, the best thing is that it works with HandBrake or other apps without putting the video_ts folder on your drive first.
 
I've 'converted' about 530 DVDs to MP4, and have been able to do almost all of them directly using Handbrake. For four (yes only four) I had use MTR (2.6.6) first, because of deliberate bad sector copy protection. I haven't bothered to get MTR 3.0.
 
If Mac the Ripper, or any software on a Mac, get the ability to rip Blu-Ray, I'll pay for it.
 
Handbrake to DVD

I too have been having issues with MTR....is there an easy way to go from Handbrake to DVD? There are just so many options in HB that my head spins just looking at them and it's a bit confusing for just a rip to DVD-R...any help?
 
I too have been having issues with MTR....is there an easy way to go from Handbrake to DVD? There are just so many options in HB that my head spins just looking at them and it's a bit confusing for just a rip to DVD-R...any help?

Nope. Handbrake converts to different formats. It won't go to DVD format. If MTR isn't working for you, try Fairmount (requires VLC, as well...both free).
 
Disney Pixar are the worst for putting bad sectors on their DVD's to defeat ripping.

I use Handbrake with Disney/Pixar and haven't had one DVD not rip, hmmmm Take some time, but hey it was free.

I had an earlier version of MTR and couldn't be bothered to jump through the hoops for the updated version.

Pj
 
I agree, That mtr licensing protection scheme is way to complicated.
You are required to make a gift or donation, I think the magic number is $50.
You then get a license that will only work on one install. If you have multiple HD or you ever need to do a reinstall your out of luck.

I used to like mtr, back when the developer worked on it as a hobby and did it for the mac community. Now he has turned it into a money maker, you can only have if pay club.
 
I agree, That mtr licensing protection scheme is way to complicated.
You are required to make a gift or donation, I think the magic number is $50.
You then get a license that will only work on one install. If you have multiple HD or you ever need to do a reinstall your out of luck.

I used to like mtr, back when the developer worked on it as a hobby and did it for the mac community. Now he has turned it into a money maker, you can only have if pay club.

Yeah, that's why so many people just download v3.x off torrents now. I find the irony of it wonderful.
 
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