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Actually, Quicktime is a system api for encoding/decoding video files. QuickTime.app is a application that uses this api to let users play and re-encode videos. Apps like iMovie use the API for exporting to a variety of formats.
Um, yeah technically your right. I am very familiar with the api. The point is there is no such thing as a "QuickTime Codec" per se. At any rate, HandBrake does not encode to the .mov format which many people refer to as the quicktime format albeit incorrectly. As I said before .mp4 is most commonly used even by iTunes and all associated devices like the atv, and iPods in which case h.264 would be the common and preferred video codec and aac would be the common and preferred audio codec (barring the AC3 pass through for the atv).

In summary, no .mov out of HB.

But, I was wrong too. I just looked at HB, and didnt see the option to use the quicktime api for encoding. Maybe I was thinking of VisualHub, which let you pick the encoder you wanted to use?
It is very possible that VH would leverage the QT api to encode as its an applescript front end to ffmpeg and likely QT.
 
MTR3 is a definite improvement on previous versions. I'm ripping a lot of my DVDs for Apple TV at the moment so am using this all the time at the moment. I have to say that while its better, its still not a patch on something like DVD Shrink under Windows. I've now actually got my work laptop running in tandem with my iMac and its ripping all the discs that MTR failed on. And that's a surprising amount of discs that MTR has failed to copy or extract the main feature from.
 
We're going to have Yet Another Copy Protection Discussion(tm).

Let us get the following out of the way:

1) Has any form of copy protection ever been successful at keeping media from being copied?

No.

AACS and BD+ are some of the most advanced forms of copy protection ever devised and the media they protect is still available via pirated channels.

There are some examples where those with the appropriate skills to crack the protection have not bothered to crack various pieces of software, but these should not be taken as examples where protection is successful. These are often small software vendors that escape the notice of pirates by simply not having large enough market share.

2) Has the elaborate licensing scheme prevented Mac the Ripper from being copied?

No.

It is still available via pirated channels.

3) Does the licensing scheme annoy users enough to keep them from purchasing the software?

I cannot speak for everyone else, but yes in my case. I just use alternatives in Linux when necessary due to the convoluted licensing scheme used by the software.

I can appreciate your argument, but the reality is that copy protection often annoys legitimate users more than pirates.

That pretty much sums up copyright protection. Even low-tech people figure out how to copy "protected" stuff. Hackers and piraters just see it as a fun challenge. I just want to be able to watch my DVDs and BDs on my darn computer and iPhone. I'm not the tool who signs up for NetFlix and then just starts copying stuff as if it's not the same as walking out of Best Buy with a disc in your jacket pocket.

All that the protection stuff does is frustrate me. I wonder how much money is spent developing these high-tech schemes versus how much would be lost to pirates.
 
The creator of MTR has to do what he does with the licensing scheme because of rampant abuse of the licensing system.

Typical abuse scenario:

- User sends in a $10 gift and gets a copy of MTR
- User gets his license via the automated process
- User then sends the copy of MTR with the .lic file to 40 of his friends or puts it on PirateBay.
- MTR creator see all of this abuse but people still expect him to work on MTR.

I'm not trying to make excuses for the guy... but I have to admit I'd do the same thing if I were under the same legal constraints he is to create this type of software.

You have to admit there is an irony expecting everyone to consistently pay and properly license software that is primarily used to make illegal copies of copywritten material :rolleyes:

Yes, it has legal uses, and yes I use MTR 2.6.6 to put all my DVD's on my Mac Mini / Drobo (and yes, it fails with some of my newer discs) but come on...of COURSE the pirates are going to pirate your software for pirating software.
 
of COURSE the pirates are going to pirate your software for pirating software.
LOL :D

Kind of puts the shoe on the other foot as they say :p

They have a unprofessional attitude so they can keep their so-so software.
 
LOL :D

Kind of puts the shoe on the other foot as they say :p

They have a unprofessional attitude so they can keep their so-so software.

unprofessional attitude?? come on now. just because somebody gets the software illegally doesnt mean that they are purely going to use it for other illegal uses..
 
just because somebody gets the software illegally doesnt mean that they are purely going to use it for other illegal uses..

I was talking about their website ;)

They have this holier than thou rudeness about their responses. I think that's what turned a lot of people off.
 
Can you please give me a step-by-step on how to transfer a movie file to TiVo? I've never found out how to do this.


Step 1: Rip DVD into one file and then change the file ext from .vob to .mpg
Step 2: Download the latest TiVo desktop software for the Mac and install
Step 3: follow this link and do what dennis wilkerson tells you to do.
Step 4: Create your movie folder and add the mpg file you created.
Step 5: Restart your tivo server from the pref pane and then away you go.
 
From wikipedia

The closed-source policy of MacTheRipper's authors may violate the GPL license of the libdvdread and Libdvdcss software libraries, which MacTheRipper is built on.[2][3]

I refuse to pay for software that is being stolen by the developer already. He is using a tenuous "closed beta" excuse which does not hold water.
 
I wonder how much money is spent developing these high-tech schemes versus how much would be lost to pirates.
You bring up a good point.

If I purchase a DVD for say $12, it is worth it for me to make a backup copy and then use the copy instead of the original. This way the copy gets scratched/damaged and the original stays in pristine condition.

However, if I can purchase a DVD for say $7-8, I wouldn't even bother making backup copies because it would be cheaper to replace a damaged DVD with an new one when you consider the time, effort and the cost of a blank DVD to make a backup DVD.

How much would the cost of a DVD be reduced if they eliminated the copy protection schemes? Would it be $1 per DVD? $2? $5?

On a side note, I rent a lot of DVDs. I find many of them don't play well in my computer. So I find it easier to rip, watch and then delete, rather than watching the actual DVD.

With the way rentals are going these days and the Internet bandwidth improving, in just a few years I would venture to say that many of us will be renting on demand movies instead of owning like we do now.
 
This whole thread got me thinking, there has *GOT* to be another tool that could be used.

Right now I'm testing a simple build of vobcopy. It's command line only, but so far it's working like a charm. When I get home tonight I will try Wall-E since I know it tends to throw off some rippers.

If it works out well I have no problems sharing it here with everyone as well as the commands necessary to DIY if you don't trust my binary.
 
I could never get MTR 3 to work very well. 2.6 worked much much better and crashes far less.

Usually though I will use AnyDVD as that is the best software period for ripping.
 
Has anybody here used RipIt? I use that and it seems to work well. They are constantly coming out with updates to fix rips of newer releases.
 
I broke down and purchased Ripit http://ripitapp.com I used to use MTR version 1, 2 and 3 and never had any steady luck. Ripit works like a charm. I agree Pixar Movies are the worst but what you do is after you rip it, play it in your DVD player and see which title plays when the start of the main movie plays. Put it then in Handbrake and convert that Title, works every time.
 
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