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right. exactly

Wrong.

There are none so blind . . .

Good luck with your selective interpretations - they are sure to stand you in good stead in the real world. :rolleyes:

So much for trying to educate on the imporyance of reading an entire warranty - and understanding that the exclusions are just as much a part of the warranty.

Oh, and if car maker had same exclusionary language, yes, the manufacturer would be well within its rights to deem the warranty no longer applicable.

Ahhhh . . . Forgot about the "Ignore" list.
 
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And to the car example with drink driving - that's a very poor example.

that example is meant to point out the way the user manual is being read by some people.. it's a question about words and logic and nothing to do with warranties or products.
 
would be nice except the side opposing me is running a hard-nosed "if you change anything besides ram- the warranty is void.. period!"

so my counters have to be incredibly nit-picky to steer through that (imo) madness.

idk- stick around the thread with the middle-of-the-road stance you came in on and you'll see how well that goes over.

Unfortunately Apple aren't as black-and-white as people here are making out. The terms and conditions are always the worst case scenario - they have to be, for legal reasons. However a company like Apple will often use common sense over anything else.
 
This sums up the whole discussion in my opinion

Brian Y said:
If they do however refuse, there's not much you can do to prove otherwise. Unless you can prove you didn't damage it, they're perfectly within their right to refuse warranty service. And how exactly would you go about proving that you didn't damage it? How could you prove you were properly earthed and didn't cause any ESD damage, or that you didn't mishandle components, or didn't short something out? It's very difficult, if not impossible.


I guess it is, yes. Agreeing and comprehending is 2 totally different things. I don't agree or settle with this, but I can see what it means. I would be very nervous if I'd changed a non-user-upgradable component (that is anything except ram) within a very expensive machine (e.g. nMP). Especially since Apple says they'll consider the warranty as voided.

When the next problem happens, I'd have to convince the official service - somehow - that they should consider the warranty valid. Although I agree as a free-thinking customer with your arguments whether this should void the warranty or not, I think it boils down to that I'd take a big risk to be left without support on such an expensive machine.

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I believe that this sums up everything which could be said in this matter.
Every relevant fact is here clearly exposed. The consequences as well.
Not theory but actual reality if one likes it or not.
If someone wants to take risks, he is free to do it but knowing he is actually taking those risks.
He might be lucky but nobody who thinks and acts in a reasonable way counts on what "might" be when a very expensive piece of equipment is at stake.
 
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