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Phillyphil0302

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Usually go to bed with few tabs open and when I get up in the morning and open safari, all the pages are reloading...definately don’t recall this happening on iOS 10. iPhone X on 11.2.1
 
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imagineadam

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Usually go to bed with few tabs open and when I get up in the morning and open safari, all the pages are reloading...definately don’t recall this happening on iOS 10. iPhone X on 11.2.1

Does it happen after you have been charging the phone all night??

This has been happening on my iPhone 7 since iOS 10.0.2 from day one all the way up until now iOS 10.3.3.

Go to bed with safari tabs open that have been used recently and then plug and and go to bed. 8 hours or so later I check the phone and yes all the safari tabs reload. So it's not an iOS 11 specific thing. Funny thing is if I leave the phone alone not plugged in all night and check the tabs they are fine.

iOS must go through some sort of memory cleaning process overnight while plugged in is all I can think of. Or some other overnight processes (backup/diagnostic logging) kick in and safari runs out of memory or something.
 

imagineadam

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Do you guys remember iOS 6 on the iPhone 5? Man that things ram management was the best still to this day I've experienced on an iPhone.

Mine would hold like 10-15 apps in memory easily with 8 fully loaded safari tabs. Things have changed and yes apps require more memory but.... those were the days.
 

lemimouth

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It's definitely worse since iOS 11 and in my case it affects my day to day usage.

For example I often take public transportation, and to do so I schedule my trip in an app, put it in background and check it from time to time to see if I'm on time and which transport to take next.

On my 7+ / iOS 10 it works wonderfully and the app NEVER reloaded when switching, even after playing some games or so. On iOS 11 / same device the app CONSTANTLY reloads and never remembers it's state. On my iPhone X it's SLIGHLTY less worse, but still...

I know it's up to the developer to save the state of their app, but that's not the point in this case
 

freakomac

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Do you guys remember iOS 6 on the iPhone 5? Man that things ram management was the best still to this day I've experienced on an iPhone.

Mine would hold like 10-15 apps in memory easily with 8 fully loaded safari tabs. Things have changed and yes apps require more memory but.... those were the days.

True that. Also got excellent battery life out of it as well.
 

Der Keyser

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Of course it is getting worse in IOS11 - it’s just one of the many small “handles” they pull in the longterm obsolescense plan they have for your phone.
What would be your incentive to purchase a new phone after two years if it was just as fast or even faster than when you bought it?

It will get better wih updates - so you feel they are “helping” and working on it - but it will never be as fast or good as on IOS10. That would just be counter sales productive.
 

C DM

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Oct 17, 2011
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Of course it is getting worse in IOS11 - it’s just one of the many small “handles” they pull in the longterm obsolescense plan they have for your phone.
What would be your incentive to purchase a new phone after two years if it was just as fast or even faster than when you bought it?

It will get better wih updates - so you feel they are “helping” and working on it - but it will never be as fast or good as on IOS10. That would just be counter sales productive.
The same reasons that have existed for many products--newer products are better and faster with more features that would appeal for various people to upgrade even if their older device still works well.
 

Armen

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My iPhone 7 on 10.3.3 is more fluid and faster than my iPhone 8 on iOS 11. iOS 11 is a freak show right now but apple is making improvements with every update. By 11.3 it should be a lot better

Like it matters? by the time 11.3 comes out people here will be jumping on the iOS 12 beta and complaining about it and how iOS 11 was better. It's a never ending cycle.
 

Vanilla35

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Of course it is getting worse in IOS11 - it’s just one of the many small “handles” they pull in the longterm obsolescense plan they have for your phone.
What would be your incentive to purchase a new phone after two years if it was just as fast or even faster than when you bought it?

It will get better wih updates - so you feel they are “helping” and working on it - but it will never be as fast or good as on IOS10. That would just be counter sales productive.

More inclined to believe it than not - however there were a lot of other "bloat" tasks added to iOS 11 that I think will create a foundation for additional features in the future.

Either way, performance is trash compared to a couple years ago. It's kind of when iOS started going from lean to bloated. Imo this started with the widget panel, changes to notification shade, spotlight, etc.
 

imagineadam

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Ram management on 11.2.5 feels on par with 10.3.3 now on my iPhone 7. Definitely better than 11.2.2.

And safari stays in memory overnight finally after charging all night. Used to get booted from memory on iOS 10 every iteration every night for me on my 7. So this makes me happy.
 

Shirasaki

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May 16, 2015
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Well, I would say it goes Arguably well. I mean, two games easy switch no reload. Or I think three games sometimes. Those games happen to have to consume so much memory for unknown reasons. 2GB, iOS 11. Same or slightly worse performance in iOS 10, or 9. No need to blame, for now.
 

dannyyankou

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Mar 2, 2012
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RAM management on 11.3 beta is finally as it should have been all along...perfect! Apps on my X do not close automatically any longer. Fantastic...hoping it will stay this way
Tabs have been refreshing like crazy for for me on my 7+. Even closing safari, opening another app, and opening safari again makes the tabs refresh. Going back to 11.2.5 for now.
 
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trumpetmercenary

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Jul 24, 2017
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I don't have much to add to this except that it's been happening to me too, and that I thought it was my phone. I upgraded from iPhone 7 to iPhone X and thought going from 1gb RAM to 3gb would make a difference, but apparently not. The apps I notice refreshing the most are Facebook, App Store, Chrome, and Firefox, all huge memory hogs. Sometimes they'll refresh immediately after only checking on one other app. Not sure how much of it falls between Apple's kernel and the app developers themselves.
iOS 11.2.5
 

imagineadam

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Jan 19, 2011
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I don't have much to add to this except that it's been happening to me too, and that I thought it was my phone. I upgraded from iPhone 7 to iPhone X and thought going from 1gb RAM to 3gb would make a difference, but apparently not. The apps I notice refreshing the most are Facebook, App Store, Chrome, and Firefox, all huge memory hogs. Sometimes they'll refresh immediately after only checking on one other app. Not sure how much of it falls between Apple's kernel and the app developers themselves.
iOS 11.2.5
7 has 2GB of ram.
 
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FatPuppy

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I think it depends on the app too. For example I can leave 9gag in the multitasking tray for days and I would still be able to resume the scrolling while 5 minutes away from instagram and I lose all the progress. Maybe devs are getting a tad lazy.
 

imagineadam

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I think it depends on the app too. For example I can leave 9gag in the multitasking tray for days and I would still be able to resume the scrolling while 5 minutes away from instagram and I lose all the progress. Maybe devs are getting a tad lazy.
Instagram has always been a refresher for me even on iOS 10. The only time I can get it to stay in memory longer is when you leave it open in the search state. Whenever I leave it at the main home page it has to reload very often. I think this is by design with this app.
 

PeLaNo

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I think it depends on the app too. For example I can leave 9gag in the multitasking tray for days and I would still be able to resume the scrolling while 5 minutes away from instagram and I lose all the progress. Maybe devs are getting a tad lazy.
Instagram is designed to pull content every time use come back from other app I think,just like other Facebook’s apps.
[doublepost=1517740874][/doublepost]The real problem has to do more with consistency of refresh.
You can open 4-5 apps and expect every app stay in memory (at least for me on iPhone SE with 10.3)
But with iOS 11 you don’t know when apps will be killed from memory. Sometimes I can open 3-4 apps and it’s stay perfectly fine but other time I just switch from YouTube to Safari and tgen when I came back I have to load YouTube from scratch.
 
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