What’s ironic is that you can keep 15 chrome tabs open on a $99 chromebook with 2GB ram with no refreshing. Some might argue it’s because it’s using virtual ram swap to disk (I’m not certain if chromeos does that) but either way if it’s not noticeable then it just works!
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Is RAM management getting worse in iOS 11
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Not me. Have Apple TV developer profile installed on all my Apple devices (iPads, I fomdo use iPhone). Will not install iOS 12.
My iPad Mini 4 and iPad 4 will forever with iOS 9
That would’ve been fire but I can’t complain too much because when they manage the 4gb well it’s yet to feel constrained on iOS. Rn it feels sloppy though and Apple knows it.
I'm not an expert here but, yeah, I'd distinguish between a "hard" reload and a "soft" reload. Hard being when the app restarts entirely when you go back to it, while a soft reload would be that the app is still open, but when you go back to it automatically refreshes its feed..you get the idea. Hard is probably related to system memory while soft is system design.
There are too many variables to blankly declare memory management in iOS 11 “worse” (albeit it could be on a fundamental level).
Devs have options of how their app handles itself when it’s moved into the background.
For a very rough example, a generic news app may want it stay in memory so it’s content (which is updated frequently) is purged but the app itself resides in memory. You’d notice the content refresh but the app itself doesn’t seem to “reboot”.
Other apps can exhibit different behavior. Regardless this is different than how a PC/Mac functions.
Point is you could make an app that intentional refreshes. This could give the impression iOS is doing a poor job. Not saying devs are doing that just that they have more control of how their apps function in memory.
Devs have options of how their app handles itself when it’s moved into the background.
For a very rough example, a generic news app may want it stay in memory so it’s content (which is updated frequently) is purged but the app itself resides in memory. You’d notice the content refresh but the app itself doesn’t seem to “reboot”.
Other apps can exhibit different behavior. Regardless this is different than how a PC/Mac functions.
Point is you could make an app that intentional refreshes. This could give the impression iOS is doing a poor job. Not saying devs are doing that just that they have more control of how their apps function in memory.
Even with iOS 9, the iPad 4 runs like crap. IOS devices would stay with its original iOS, so it does not lag.
I refuse update my iOS after seening how poor iOS 10 and iOS 11 running on my testing iPod Touch (I have a iPod Touch 6th gen to test how new iOS work).
I'm sorry but ram management on iOS 11.x has been absolutely horrendous.
Here's an example, I'm on YouTube watching a few videos and decide to pause and check my email. I check my email and then decide to edit some pictures on VSCO Cam and Lightroom. Once I'm done I decide to go back on YouTube and what do you know, the app has to reload and I'm back on the initial screen having to go back to my history to pull up the video I had just paused minutes ago.
I was thinking this would get better once iOS 11.x was optimized some more but holy crap it's just getting worse.
I have an iPhone X running iOS 11.4 B2.
What's everyone's thought on this problematic issue?
Here's an example, I'm on YouTube watching a few videos and decide to pause and check my email. I check my email and then decide to edit some pictures on VSCO Cam and Lightroom. Once I'm done I decide to go back on YouTube and what do you know, the app has to reload and I'm back on the initial screen having to go back to my history to pull up the video I had just paused minutes ago.
I was thinking this would get better once iOS 11.x was optimized some more but holy crap it's just getting worse.
I have an iPhone X running iOS 11.4 B2.
What's everyone's thought on this problematic issue?
iOS 11 is a lost cause. Brace yourself for iOS 12 betas in 2 months.
..... is complete garbage. /end thread
Edit: I didn’t even read your post either, but I agree with all of it and have had the same experience.
Edit: I didn’t even read your post either, but I agree with all of it and have had the same experience.
Sounds like your Youtube app closed for some reason rather than any particular RAM management issue.
Nope, it just had to reload because it couldn’t keep it in ram. iOS 11 is **** at this point. Can’t keep more than 3-4 apps open.
iOS 11 is a lost cause and cannot be fixed. iOS 12 will hopefully fix everything iOS 11 needed in the first place.
iOS 11 needs 4GB of RAM to work properly as it's unoptimised. Various videos have shown Apple losing to even Samsung on ram management in iOS 11. The iPhone X has been hamstrung with lesser ram just like the iPhone 6 Plus was. The current year X will have 4GB ram and function optimally. Gotta keep the upgrades rolling in.
I can be cut/paste between two apps, bouncing back and forth between two tabs in Safari, or Safari and another app, or just going back to the or another previous recent app .. and I get the whole reload. Whether it was my iPhone 7+ or IPP 12.9 G2, it happens and far too frequently.
What is worse, when it does happen and I look in my Status app in Memory and I'll have from 15% to 30% free/inactive on the 7+. RAM management is either broke or ...
One of the reasons I moved to the Razer.
Side Note: I am testing an iPhone X and an iPhone 8+ for work and both are exhibiting the same RAM management issues.
What is worse, when it does happen and I look in my Status app in Memory and I'll have from 15% to 30% free/inactive on the 7+. RAM management is either broke or ...
One of the reasons I moved to the Razer.
Side Note: I am testing an iPhone X and an iPhone 8+ for work and both are exhibiting the same RAM management issues.
When Safari tabs frequently reload and there are no other apps open (or even installed), the only one left to blame is Apple.
But but but you don’t need to close apps according to Apple!!!!
Seriously though....has anyone with this issue tried turning off background app refresh for their apps? I ask because I am not seeing ram issues and I have background app refresh off because I was tired of using data unnecessarily (I’m looking at you Facebook). The only issue I have had since 11 (I think) is that I get a ******** more webpage reloads than before.
Seriously though....has anyone with this issue tried turning off background app refresh for their apps? I ask because I am not seeing ram issues and I have background app refresh off because I was tired of using data unnecessarily (I’m looking at you Facebook). The only issue I have had since 11 (I think) is that I get a ******** more webpage reloads than before.
You gotta understand memory intensive app such as some photo editing or games will need more RAMs that the system will need to reallocate memory to priority on screen app.
For example, if you run a Geekbench CPU test, most of the apps in background when bringing them to foreground most of those apps will need a refresh.
And taken into consideration, apps do get frequent updates with more added features that may require additional memory to run. iOS can be improved for better RAM management but it may also be hardware limitation 2-3GB RAM on certain devices that’s a reason why Samsung S9 has 6GB RAM.
For example, if you run a Geekbench CPU test, most of the apps in background when bringing them to foreground most of those apps will need a refresh.
And taken into consideration, apps do get frequent updates with more added features that may require additional memory to run. iOS can be improved for better RAM management but it may also be hardware limitation 2-3GB RAM on certain devices that’s a reason why Samsung S9 has 6GB RAM.
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I remember you once mentioned that your 7 plus on 10.3.3 had great RAM management, which was crippled with the iOS 11 update. Back then, I didn't believe you, but after using my old iPhone 5C on iOS 10.3.3, the difference in RAM management was really apparent, and apps stay in memory longer. Now I can relate to what you said back then. Apple definitely changed something about the way iOS handles RAM.
The problem has improved with the 11.3 update, but it still isn't as good as it once was.
I will downgrade my 6S+ to 10.3.3 in a heartbeat if Apple accidentally open their signed window (which they once did) or once a Jailbreak is available. Screw security concerns or battery throttling; I want better RAM management, the old Control Center with toggles that actually turn stuff off, better app opening and closing animations, and no more big ass bold titles within apps!