is the Galaxy S 7 a real threat to iPhone ? how many here would switch ?

[MrWillie]

Been bowed up. But some stated earlier about Sammy being waterproof and better at multitasking. Well there are quite a few Youtubes out there that run the latest iPhone against the latest Samsung (at the time ) head to head at multitasking. iPhone wins. iFixit also states that the 6S and 6S+ is well sealed with gaskets. There is also a dozen or so YouTube videos demonstrating the 6S's waterproofing. One even takes it head to head against an S6 in a boiling water / freeze test. iPhone wins. Of course if I fell into boiling the least of my concerns would be my phone, I have been to the Arctic and experienced -70 F with a BB. I'd love to go back, especially if the money is right.

Again, I've had an Android (HTC One M7). Nice handset, but I also had my iPad nearby.

Will the S7 make me want to switch. No. I'd be missing too much.

 

[epicrayban]

I dont know why but that glossy body and the bezels really make the iPhone design downright bloated and humongous.And in addition its got base storage of 32GB+MicroSD and that gorgeous screen.

Yes, I forgot about expandable storage. I was listing what came to my head.

Also, while I've come around to expandable storage (mainly cause of value), I would still much prefer if Samsung gave consumers at least a 64GB option.

Imagine the S line with 32 or 64GB storage options + microSD. And then the Note series would be 64GB or 128GB options + microSD. These options should be available to all regions.

Now that would be mint.

 

[mi7chy]

Well there are quite a few Youtubes out there that run the latest iPhone against the latest Samsung (at the time ) head to head at multitasking.

Unlike the Galaxy S7 that can run apps in the background like a PC the iPhone suspends apps in the background so they're testing two different things. It's like comparing MS-DOS which is better if only running one task vs Windows 10 that's better for multitasking. Nobody switches through that many apps in such a short time in real life anyway.

As for extreme temperature testing, iPhones usually do worse in both extreme cold and extreme heat.

Extreme Cold Battery Life
http://www.gsmarena.com/iphone_6s_plus_vs_lg_v10_vs_galaxy_note5-review-1366p4.php

Extreme Heat

 

[MrWillie]

Unlike the Galaxy S7 that can run apps in the background like a PC the iPhone suspends apps in the background so they're testing two different things. It's like comparing MS-DOS which is better if only running one task vs Windows 10 that's better for multitasking. Nobody switches through that many apps in such a short time in real life anyway.

As for extreme temperature testing, iPhones usually do worse in both extreme cold and extreme heat.

Extreme Cold Battery Life
http://www.gsmarena.com/iphone_6s_plus_vs_lg_v10_vs_galaxy_note5-review-1366p4.php

Extreme Heat

Yea, I understand how multitasking works. I also understand that the iPhone walks all over Samsung in multitasking. We have a couple of Galaxy users in our office. They buy into the bright and shiny. We run impromptu test. Of course in the big scheme of things, it really doesn't matter, except Sammys are not superior devices.

I never mentioned battery life. I just want it to work.

 

[jamezr]

Yea, I understand how multitasking works. I also understand that the iPhone walks all over Samsung in multitasking. We have a couple of Galaxy users in our office. They buy into the bright and shiny. We run impromptu test. Of course in the big scheme of things, it really doesn't matter, except Sammys are not superior devices.

I never mentioned battery life. I just want it to work.

I have both phones a 6s+ and S7e. The battery on my 6s+ is better. But that's the only win it gets. Display ,camera ,waterproofing ,wireless charging and storage expandability all go to the S7.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I have both phones a 6s+ and S7e. The battery on my 6s+ is better. But that's the only win it gets. Display ,camera ,waterproofing ,wireless charging and storage expandability all go to the S7.

As long as I get a day of moderate usage, that's fine with me. And I rarely go a day without charging. From my home, car, work, and etc. There is just to many opportunities to top off my battery.

I don't think I'll be truly excited about battery life until I can get a days worth of heavy usage with max brightness, or 3 days of moderate usage.

 

[UAV]

Yea, I understand how multitasking works. I also understand that the iPhone walks all over Samsung in multitasking. We have a couple of Galaxy users in our office. They buy into the bright and shiny. We run impromptu test. Of course in the big scheme of things, it really doesn't matter, except Sammys are not superior devices.

I never mentioned battery life. I just want it to work.

i don't see any multitasking in that video, nothing but switching back and forth between apps, can someone please show video of an iphone doing multitasking that is not JB. i say again switching back and forth between apps is NOT multitasking.

 

[thunng8]

i don't see any multitasking in that video, nothing but switching back and forth between apps, can someone please show video of an iphone doing multitasking that is not JB. i say again switching back and forth between apps is NOT multitasking.

Of course the iPhone can multitask. The limitation is that not anything can run in the background indefinitely. For example, downloading a large file in background will time out after 10min if not the foreground app. Most other things run fine, eg music, gps and many other types of background tasks as defined by Apple

 

[jamezr]

Of course the iPhone can multitask. The limitation is that not anything can run in the background indefinitely. For example, downloading a large file in background will time out after 10min if not the foreground app. Most other things run fine, eg music, gps and many other types of background tasks as defined by Apple

Therein lies the rub.... Multitasking as defined by Apple is not the way it is defined by everyone else.

 

[thunng8]

Therein lies the rub.... Multitasking as defined by Apple is not the way it is defined by everyone else.

Yes, there are some limitation but in most cases, it will not affect the majority ofpeople. UAV seemed to suggest that iOS cannot do multitasking which is clearly wrong.

 

[gotluck]

And this difference in multitasking methodology leads me to want greenify on my android devices to keep apps from running in the background that I dont want to be able to. Apps tend to run rampant on android. Troubleshooting wakelocks sucks. This is essentially why people claim android gets 'inconsistent battery life' (well this combined with Google play services polling location too much and being erratic on battery). Seems like making doze work while you are moving with the device in your pocket with Android N should help work on this problem more. The current doze is a measure towards this issue too

The main con WRT multitasking on ios in my book is downloading / uploading large files within apps on ios sucks and there really aren't any solutions aside from some janky jailbreak ones

but I know mi7chy wants his terminal sessions continually running in the background too

 

[maxsix]

I have a Galaxy S7 edge and a 6s+ and Nexus 6P and a Note 5. I like them all. They all have different features and pros and cons.
The features the S7 has
1) I think it has the best camera in low light i have used.
2) It is pretty much waterproof. If you use your phone outdoors or around water then that a big plus. It can be under 5 feet of water for 30 minutes
3) It has expandable storage. You can add a 200 GB SD Card and apps will install there.
4) Best display on a smartphone yet.

They all have great features. It just comes down to your preferences and what you like. You can't go wrong with an iphone or the S7.

Oh and my T-Mobile model only has a couple TMO software. So it has very little if any bloatware.

Excellent post, you're very accurate and fair!

Disclaimer: I am fully addicted to Smartphones.
Full Disclosure: Currently own these activated models:

1) iPhone 6
2) iPhone 6 Plus
3) iPhone 6S Plus
4) Nexus 5
5) Nexus 6
6) Nexus 5X
7) Nexus 6P
8) LG V10
9) Moto X Pure
10) Galaxy S7
11) Galaxy S7 Edge
12) OPPO R7s

Yes I do spend obscene amounts on Smartphones and carrier fees annually. Say what you like... I'm using what I like.

The best?
The phone YOU like.

Me?
I may speak my mind about Apple, but I find the iPhone 6 Plus my favorite iOS device.

My absolute favorite, and Primary smartphone I rely on daily is my Wonderful Nexus 6P.

To debunk:
TouchWiz is very good!
I simply prefer Authentic Android.

To debunk:
LG Optimus is very good!

TouchWiz & Optimus haters are Exaggerating...
These UI's are different, that doesn't mean that they're bad. Or slow.

Android vs iOS?
BOTH WIN, It's as simple as that.

Pick One
Or put your money where your mouth is, use both and enjoy.

 

[jamezr]

Yes, there are some limitation but in most cases, it will not affect the majority ofpeople. UAV seemed to suggest that iOS cannot do multitasking which is clearly wrong.

True but to say the iphone has multitasking because it can run music or gps in the background while you text is not true multitasking. That is a basic function all smartphones do......

 

[thunng8]

True but to say the iphone has multitasking because it can run music or gps in the background while you text is not true multitasking. That is a basic function all smartphones do......

It can do much more than that, I was just giving some examples

 

[yellowscreen]

True but to say the iphone has multitasking because it can run music or gps in the background while you text is not true multitasking. That is a basic function all smartphones do......

If you think multitasking equals splitscreen, you should just say so

 

[jamezr]

It can do much more than that, I was just giving some examples

I agree it can do more than that my 6s+ is a great phone. But as far as multitasking goes it comes up short against the S7.
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If you think multitasking equals splitscreen, you should just say so

That is one part of it for sure but not all of it. Picture in a picture, split screen, running multiple apps at the same time.

 

[mi7chy]

It can do much more than that, I was just giving some examples

Not really. iOS multitasking is very limited like a feature phone vs Android that's more like full PC multitasking. Except for just a handful like basic audio, GPS, VOIP and news updates don't expect much else to run in the background on iOS so that rules out background downloads, FTP/FTPS/SFTP, bittorrent, github, telnet, SSH, RDP, VNC, IRC and so on. Tim Cook is really stretching it when he claims that iOS is the most advanced OS that can replace the PC but most iOS-only users don't know the limitations of what they're using vs someone who uses multiple platforms.

To see for yourself, download the free Attachmate Reflection SSH client and connect to a SSH server, router, Mac, etc. On iOS it gets suspended in the background then gets killed after 3 minutes while Android runs indefinitely like a PC.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/reflection-for-unix-ssh-client/id920472514

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rTablet.Android

 

[Truefan31]

Until other oems can both produce good products with efficient software AND actually provide real customer service and long term support then I think Apple will be just fine. Most of these oems can't even get past carriers and their bloat let alone service and support their own devices in a seamless manner.

It's actually amazing that such a simple concept of success can't be duplicated by these other oems. For all the things they put into these devices they still can't do the simple things that by all data accounts, actually matter.

 

[I7guy]

Not really. iOS multitasking is very limited like a feature phone vs Android that's more like full PC multitasking. Except for just a handful like basic audio, GPS, VOIP and news updates don't expect much else to run in the background on iOS so that rules out background downloads, FTP/FTPS/SFTP, bittorrent, github, telnet, SSH, RDP, VNC, IRC and so on. Tim Cook is really stretching it when he claims that iOS is the most advanced OS that can replace the PC but most iOS-only users don't know the limitations of what they're using vs someone who uses multiple platforms.

To see for yourself, download the free Attachmate Reflection SSH client and connect to a SSH server, router, Mac, etc. On iOS it gets suspended in the background then gets killed after 3 minutes while Android runs indefinitely like a PC.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/reflection-for-unix-ssh-client/id920472514

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rTablet.Android

To be fair android can replace a pc either. Well it can't replace my of and neither can iOS. Your right that iOS background has to be code led for, but I guess that's the penalty for great battery life. Pick your poison.

 

[Qbnkelt]

You are the perfect consumer for Apple. They trap you into the ecosystem and it costs you a lot of money to get out. I really wish Apple would open up the software to Android.
Airplay, iMessage and Facetime would be my top 3 apps for sure!

It's not an entrapment. It's a choice.
I like to have my music and movies link across devices. No I don't want to have to drag and drop music or films. (And no, the Android apps that link to my iTunes libraries to transfer to my Samsung were not dependable.) I like how my photos are available across my devices. I don't have the same with a Samsung phone because I don't buy Samsung tablets. And more than anything I like the dependability of my Apple products. I like how I can buy a new iPhone and restore from backup and everything is on my new phone with no drama.
With as much as I like my Apple devices and iOS, why would I switch? I choose not to do so.
There was a time when I had tons of time to tinker. Not so much now. Nor do I have the desire to spend time dragging, dropping, cutting, pasting....no more.
I could switch. For what reason? What would a gain? To complicate my life with something that doesn't work as well for me as my current choice? To gain bragging rights to one of higher specs on a product that will, based on past history with the company, drag to a mess after the first major upgrade?
It's not entrapment. It's a choice on what works best for me. And I'm not unusual. If something is compelling enough people will switch as a choice. I won't be one because my current choice works best for me, sans traps.

 

[Truefan31]

It's not an entrapment. It's a choice.
I like to have my music and movies link across devices. No I don't want to have to drag and drop music or films. (And no, the Android apps that link to my iTunes libraries to transfer to my Samsung were not dependable.) I like how my photos are available across my devices. I don't have the same with a Samsung phone because I don't buy Samsung tablets. And more than anything I like the dependability of my Apple products. I like how I can buy a new iPhone and restore from backup and everything is on my new phone with no drama.
With as much as I like my Apple devices and iOS, why would I switch? I choose not to do so.
There was a time when I had tons of time to tinker. Not so much now. Nor do I have the desire to spend time dragging, dropping, cutting, pasting....no more.
I could switch. For what reason? What would a gain? To complicate my life with something that doesn't work as well for me as my current choice? To gain bragging rights to one of higher specs on a product that will, based on past history with the company, drag to a mess after the first major upgrade?
It's not entrapment. It's a choice on what works best for me. And I'm not unusual. If something is compelling enough people will switch as a choice. I won't be one because my current choice works best for me, sans traps.

That's the thing if people are happy with using a product, why switch? Especially if in the past they had a bad experience when trying other products. Lol @entrapment, like Apple is twisting anyone's arms to buy its products. It's like some people just can't conceive that there's a lot of happy Apple customers, and nobody's being brainwashed. I'm sure there's lots of happy android customers too and there's no entrapment going on either.

Nice hardware, seamless integration across multiple devices including computers and laptops, top notch support for all its products including software, yeah it's gotta be crazy why people would be happy with that smh.

 

[mikezmac]

Not switching. Prefer iOS. Far more stable and secure.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

It's not an entrapment. It's a choice.
I like to have my music and movies link across devices. No I don't want to have to drag and drop music or films. (And no, the Android apps that link to my iTunes libraries to transfer to my Samsung were not dependable.) I like how my photos are available across my devices. I don't have the same with a Samsung phone because I don't buy Samsung tablets. And more than anything I like the dependability of my Apple products. I like how I can buy a new iPhone and restore from backup and everything is on my new phone with no drama.
With as much as I like my Apple devices and iOS, why would I switch? I choose not to do so.
There was a time when I had tons of time to tinker. Not so much now. Nor do I have the desire to spend time dragging, dropping, cutting, pasting....no more.
I could switch. For what reason? What would a gain? To complicate my life with something that doesn't work as well for me as my current choice? To gain bragging rights to one of higher specs on a product that will, based on past history with the company, drag to a mess after the first major upgrade?
It's not entrapment. It's a choice on what works best for me. And I'm not unusual. If something is compelling enough people will switch as a choice. I won't be one because my current choice works best for me, sans traps.

If iPhone and the Apple's ecosystem works for you, that's perfectly fine. But when you assume that A1ndroid is all about dragging, dropping, cutting, pasting, it's shows that you really haven't even considered it an option. And that's okay, but expect users to correct you about that in any forum.

Being that said, I agree with Lloydbm41. Apple's iOS may be a choice, but it's hardware and it's restrictions certainly is not. And that's most of Android users complaints, cause most of us actually like iOS and want to see it's full potential. If iOS was opensource and avaliable to use on the S7 edge without Apple's software restrictions, it would be game over for the iPhone as a device.

Apple does entrap, it has too. Facetime, iMessage, iTunes intergration, and iOS itself was designed with proprietary as the first or second thought behind it. And Apple does a damn good job at it. So tell me about choice, when your choice for an iOS experience is very limited.

 

[Qbnkelt]

If iPhone and the Apple's ecosystem works for you, that's perfectly fine. But when you assume that A1ndroid is all about dragging, dropping, cutting, pasting, it's shows that you really haven't even considered it an option. And that's okay, but expect users to correct you about that in any forum.

Being that said, I agree with Lloydbm41. Apple's iOS may be a choice, but it's hardware and it's restrictions certainly is not. And that's most of Android users complaints, cause most of us actually like iOS and want to see it's full potential. If iOS was opensource and avaliable to use on the S7 edge without Apple's software restrictions, it would be game over for the iPhone as a device.

Apple does entrap, it has too. Facetime, iMessage, iTunes intergration, and iOS itself was designed with proprietary as the first or second thought behind it. And Apple does a damn good job at it. So tell me about choice, when your choice for an iOS experience is very limited.

You would be incorrect in your assumption that I haven't considered Android as an option.
Atrix in 2010, Samsung Skyrocket in 2011, SGS3 in 2012, Samsung Note in 2014. When buying content I did in fact download and maintained by usb to my laptop. Kies was not entirely reliable. So no, I don't need to be corrected. I prefer going to an app on my phone to get my music and then sync without cables.
I gladly trade open source with the syncing and management ease of iOS. As I said, there was a time when tinkering was fun. Now I appreciate the lack of tinkering that I do with my iOS devices.
You see Apple's tools as entrapments, I see them as options. That's OK. I could leave them any time I wanted just like I left BlackBerry. You see it as limits, I see it as an ecosystem. How am I entrapped when I have made a choice? What do I need that Apple does not give me?
I can have Skype if I don't want Facetime. I can have WhatsApp if I don't want iMessage. I could integrate my BlackBerry iTunes music via BlackBerry Link. I could transfer my music via the different apps in Google Play. Where is entrapment? I've chosen what works for me and the apps I use and need are all available to me. I see no trap.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

You would be incorrect in your assumption that I haven't considered Android as an option.
Atrix in 2010, Samsung Skyrocket in 2011, SGS3 in 2012, Samsung Note in 2014. When buying content I did in fact download and maintained by usb to my laptop. Kies was not entirely reliable. So no, I don't need to be corrected. I prefer going to an app on my phone to get my music and then sync without cables.
I gladly trade open source with the syncing and management ease of iOS. As I said, there was a time when tinkering was fun. Now I appreciate the lack of tinkering that I do with my iOS devices.
You see Apple's tools as entrapments, I see them as options. That's OK. I could leave them any time I wanted just like I left BlackBerry. You see it as limits, I see it as an ecosystem. How am I entrapped when I have made a choice? What do I need that Apple does not give me?
I can have Skype if I don't want Facetime. I can have WhatsApp if I don't want iMessage. I could integrate my BlackBerry iTunes music via BlackBerry Link. I could transfer my music via the different apps in Google Play. Where is entrapment? I've chosen what works for me and the apps I use and need are all available to me. I see no trap.

The fact that you brought up Kies says it all. The majority of users never bothered with that crap software unless we wanted to do an emergency firmwate recovery. The choice not to use Kies for backups of settings and etc exists for us. Now try backing up your iOS settings and etc without iCloud or iTunes. Yes, iOS default backups are better than Android or Samsung default backups. But we have the choice to use other backups services that are even more convenient and robust than iOS backups, even without root.

As far as tinkering goes. I barely tinker(root, load roms, and etc) anymore. 95% of what I do to customize to my liking is already an option out the box.

I refuse to believe there hasn't been at least several things you wanted to do on iOS that you was restricted of doing. Whether it was how you wanted to do it, or what you wanted to do. For myself, I still have issue with apps on iOS still not allowing me to use my celluar data, while the same apps on Android allow me that option.