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is the Galaxy S 7 a real threat to iPhone ? how many here would switch ?
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I agree.The App Store quality and the seamless updates process is unrivalled in the industry.
Totally missed the point; if I buy a bunch of android apps in the Android App Store will have to pay twice to get same apps on iOS.
The apps are the only hurdle.My contacts are synced.My mail is synced.My hangouts messages are synced.All of my notes are synced.My browser history along with favourites is synced.If you use any of Apple's stock apps,none allow this.iMessage in particular makes it annoying to switch
So because they might only be number 2 they should throw in the towel and back out completely? I didn't know only the #1 could be successful.
I switch back and forth between a 6s+ and S7e or N5 or 6P. I don't miss any apps from IOS. There is nothing for me on IOS that cannot be done on Android except maybe texting from an IOS (ipad or rmbp) device through iMessage. But really....i have never done that so I don't miss what i have never done.
All i do is sign out of imessage on my iphone....switch sims with any of my other phones. Done! No one knows i have switched. My friends and family are a mixture of both Android and iPhone users.
I meant paid android apps. (Not enough coffee) otherwise if all you get is the phone and don't buy the apps and don't pay for iCloud you can use any ecosystem of your choosing. It's all about how deep into the respective ecosystem you are.
You are, once again, either being careless or intentionally daft. The original post you quoted clearly talked about iOS core apps when referring to the Apple ecosystem (things like iMessage, FaceTime, and iTunes in the conversation he quotes were all mentioned).
Other apps sold from the App Store aren't part of "Apple's ecosystem." They're not Apple's apps. And as you have said, paying for any app on any platform means you'd have to pay for it again if you migrate to another platform. This is true of all of them. You bringing that up to false-equate that Google's ecosystem is as trapping as Apple's ecosystem is deceiving.
The point still stands: Appel's ecosystem locks you in far more than Google's ecosystem. Google's core apps are available to iOS users. The same cannot be said of Apple's core apps. They only exist on iOS, thus making it harder for users to leave Apple. (Again, I don't blame Apple for this. I'd do the same, too.)
Yes, it's also hard to lose third party apps that you've spent money on, but that's not what the people you quoted are talking about.
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Ah, okay. Got it. Careless, then.
That's my point I do not feel "locked" down in any stretch of the imagination. I could go android, Windows or BB in a New York minute; if I liked the phone and support enough to switch. Yes, I would lose my iMessage, but they are transitory and have no intrinsic meaning to me.
That's fair. You don't feel locked down. But it doesn't change the original point of the post you quoted: that Apple's ecosystem is harder to leave than Google's. Your response to that implied that they were the same level of difficulty to leave, which is false. That's all we're pointing out.
I like iMessage because it syncs with my iPad but if I didn't have it I would just use Whatsapp for everything. I already use it for about 90% of my text messaging.
I wish Apple would open up photostream so none Apple devices could contribute to shared albums but I suppose I could set up another Google Drive account and use it to transfer to my iPad from a phone. I see Android has a Find Friends equivalent which was another feature I need. I think I could switch back to Android no problem if I wanted.
I wish Apple would open up photostream so none Apple devices could contribute to shared albums but I suppose I could set up another Google Drive account and use it to transfer to my iPad from a phone. I see Android has a Find Friends equivalent which was another feature I need. I think I could switch back to Android no problem if I wanted.
I think 'more difficult or harder' aren't necessarily the most appropriate descriptors but rather Apple uses may face more compromises if they decide to leave. Users of Apple hardware aren't forced to use those Apple specific services. If they do (and most probably do), it means they will have to choose an alternative solution. It's as difficult as one chooses to make it.
But yes, living in the Apple ecosystem and more specifically iOS, can be more problematic if you want to change due to the nature of Apple's services being proprietary for the most part and only having one choice of OEM for the hardware--no disagreement there.
I don't know......Apple does make it harder to leave their ecosystem than Android does. I prefer Google Maps for navigation than Apple Maps on my iphone. I can install G Maps but cannot make it my default app for navigation. Same goes for all apps. So I am being forced ( or more difficult) to use any other app than Apple's. This also applies to browsers for Chrome and Safari as well. While on my Android phones I can make any app through the Playstore my default app for anything i choose. This makes it easier to switch platforms and use cross platform apps.
iPhone 7? Early prototype?
Straight outta Foxconn: Alleged iPhone 7 chassis mold leaks, hints at smooth rear
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Stra...assis-mold-leaks-hints-at-smooth-rear_id79318
Straight outta Foxconn: Alleged iPhone 7 chassis mold leaks, hints at smooth rear
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Stra...assis-mold-leaks-hints-at-smooth-rear_id79318
I don't see how this makes it harder to switch from iOS. Less than ideal to use if you prefer apps that aren't Apple core apps? Sure, but having Apple Maps as the default mapping app doesn't really hinder me from leaving it behind.
And I don't have any problems using non-Apple apps. I use Outlook for mail...if needed I copy an email address and open the app...an extra step but not a huge hinderance. In most cases I'm not initiating an email from a email address link but from the app itself. And I'm not forced to use Safari for links within those emails as Outlook lets me choose my browser. Same goes for different document types (PDFs, Word docs, etc--can choose which app to open them in right in mail). For navigation, I use Waze almost exclusively...pulls address from my calendar appointments directly, and if I choose, will send me drive time reminders. I can do this with Google Maps as well (reminders, that is as I use Google for my contacts). Other than Safari, I generally don't use Apple core apps and have no problems.
I won't disagree that being able to systematically set specific apps as default is optimal and would love it on iOS. But I also think the handicap this supposedly creates is often blown out of proportion. And I don't see this as relevant to the 'locked in to Apple ecosystem arguement' whatsoever. If anything, it makes switching INTO iOS problematic for some people, but not switching out.
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I have the S7 edge as well, and for me, it took a while to get used to the edges of the screen curving. It does make watching videos a bit weird at the edges, but I'm getting used to it. The thing that I find most annoying is how easy it is to launch apps by accident when you touch the edges of the screen. You have to learn to hold it a bit differently or you will be launching apps left and right. Having said that, the phone is great and I'm very happy with it. The screen is sick!
I think people who are apprehensive about leaving Apple have a lot less to worry about in 2016. For every piece of software and service Apple does well, there is a superior alternative these days (besides osx IMO).
Google photos is unlimited and free. It will genuinely give you all of your photos back to your first digital camera instantly and take up next to no room on your device.
My friends were annoyed by the green bubbles, but I deleted my group chats and moved over to Facebook messenger. The gif integration is great, and over all I prefer it to imessage.
I would prefer to not even talk about the 5 alarm garbage fire that is Apple music/iTunes. Safe to say there are better alternatives out there.
I was already long switched over to Google for email. If you haven't tried inbox you should it is brilliant.
The competition has caught up and surpassed Apple in almost every facet. Sure the OS updates roll out faster on iOS. However ask people with 2 year old phones how it runs. In a lot of instances it will make your phone so slow it is unusable.
The last bastion of clear advantage was hardware quality. In 2016 I now prefer the ergonomics of the competition. Even low end phones this year will be rivaling the 6s in materials and build.
I am a long time Apple fanboy, but above all I am a realist. If you prefer the aesthetics of ios stick, around but you really aren't losing anything by switching these days.
Google photos is unlimited and free. It will genuinely give you all of your photos back to your first digital camera instantly and take up next to no room on your device.
My friends were annoyed by the green bubbles, but I deleted my group chats and moved over to Facebook messenger. The gif integration is great, and over all I prefer it to imessage.
I would prefer to not even talk about the 5 alarm garbage fire that is Apple music/iTunes. Safe to say there are better alternatives out there.
I was already long switched over to Google for email. If you haven't tried inbox you should it is brilliant.
The competition has caught up and surpassed Apple in almost every facet. Sure the OS updates roll out faster on iOS. However ask people with 2 year old phones how it runs. In a lot of instances it will make your phone so slow it is unusable.
The last bastion of clear advantage was hardware quality. In 2016 I now prefer the ergonomics of the competition. Even low end phones this year will be rivaling the 6s in materials and build.
I am a long time Apple fanboy, but above all I am a realist. If you prefer the aesthetics of ios stick, around but you really aren't losing anything by switching these days.
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I just came back to Apple after about three years where I left for Android and a Nexus 4 followed by a Galaxy Note 3. The reason I left was just for a change as iOS got a bit stale for me, the 4S was my last phone. Android phones were offering a lot more variety with bigger screens, better customisation etc. I have been a Mac user though for many years.
it can be a pain for iOS users to switch to Apple as of course, Apple core apps are not on Android. So you have to buy something like Cloud magic to get your iCloud emails. And you have to sync our contacts somehow on your Mac with google to get those contacts across. iMessage is a big plus point for Apple, I missed that when I left as well as my family members all are iOS users.
The Note 3 was a great phone, I stuck with for well over two years and uses it as a Phablet so had Kindle books on it etc. It was great for travelling and the battery life was superb. Very well made device and it honestly never let me down.
So looking at changing a few weeks back, the choice was to go for the S7 Edge or go back to Apple. I also looked at the Sony Z5 compact as I fancied a smaller phone and wanted a tablet as well so looked at the Z3 tablet or the Pixel C. The Android tablets though are terrible as they just don't have the apps that Apple has fit for the iPad. Playing around with an iPhone 6 convinced me that Apple was the way to go. I like iOS now that Ive has had his way and the notifications and widgets are pretty decent.
So i got the 6S and then picked up an iPad Mini 4. Very pleased to be back i have to say, a lot more than I expected. the iOS ecosystem is a still a lot smoother and more uniform than the Android OS. And of course all Google apps work fine and very well on iOS, even Google Now. It's small little things like iMessage which i love using again as it syncs to my Mac and my iPad. The iPad has been a godsend as I'm always travelling so it's great having it to pass the time on flights and in airports.
To cut a long story short, I liked Android, still do and have a lot of time for Google's apps which I like a lot. Google Keep, Chrome, Docs, Drive I still use them primarily. But it's very good to be back with Apple and iOS.
There is no denying it of course, the S7 is a seriously good phone. Ultimately this is good for Apple as it pushed the bar once again.
it can be a pain for iOS users to switch to Apple as of course, Apple core apps are not on Android. So you have to buy something like Cloud magic to get your iCloud emails. And you have to sync our contacts somehow on your Mac with google to get those contacts across. iMessage is a big plus point for Apple, I missed that when I left as well as my family members all are iOS users.
The Note 3 was a great phone, I stuck with for well over two years and uses it as a Phablet so had Kindle books on it etc. It was great for travelling and the battery life was superb. Very well made device and it honestly never let me down.
So looking at changing a few weeks back, the choice was to go for the S7 Edge or go back to Apple. I also looked at the Sony Z5 compact as I fancied a smaller phone and wanted a tablet as well so looked at the Z3 tablet or the Pixel C. The Android tablets though are terrible as they just don't have the apps that Apple has fit for the iPad. Playing around with an iPhone 6 convinced me that Apple was the way to go. I like iOS now that Ive has had his way and the notifications and widgets are pretty decent.
So i got the 6S and then picked up an iPad Mini 4. Very pleased to be back i have to say, a lot more than I expected. the iOS ecosystem is a still a lot smoother and more uniform than the Android OS. And of course all Google apps work fine and very well on iOS, even Google Now. It's small little things like iMessage which i love using again as it syncs to my Mac and my iPad. The iPad has been a godsend as I'm always travelling so it's great having it to pass the time on flights and in airports.
To cut a long story short, I liked Android, still do and have a lot of time for Google's apps which I like a lot. Google Keep, Chrome, Docs, Drive I still use them primarily. But it's very good to be back with Apple and iOS.
There is no denying it of course, the S7 is a seriously good phone. Ultimately this is good for Apple as it pushed the bar once again.
I wouldn't say that at all. They are both equally fantastic designs.
I would have to believe at this point the iphone 7 is virtually baked in cement. I'm sure apple has the ability to tweak a few things here and there, but I do not believe they can turn on a dime to wholesale modify functions and/or the chipset so it will be what it will be.
Looks like there won't be an iPhone 7 this year, only an iPhone 6s².iPhone 7? Early prototype?
Straight outta Foxconn: Alleged iPhone 7 chassis mold leaks, hints at smooth rear
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Stra...assis-mold-leaks-hints-at-smooth-rear_id79318
Android Pay, Google Fit, Google now launcher???
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You can't be trapped in a free software ecosystem. You can leave at any time without consequences. If you are trapped in Apple's ecosystem of hardware, it can cost thousands of dollars to leave it, hence anyone deeply embedded likely won't. And that is what Apple wants.
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Seemless updates? For apps or OS? If apps, there may be no updates for years. Don't really consider that a benefit. If OS, there hasn't been a seemless update in quite some time.
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