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If you knew anything about design you wouldn't be making such ridiculous assumptions. Yesterday it was "Apple knew the design was ugly and released it anyway!" and today you're off to a great start, recommending an imbalanced top and bottom screen design. LOL. You realize you're talking about Apple and not Samsung, right? You know, the company that cares passionately about design and aesthetics, the company that doesn't compromise and will wait until a technology is ready before releasing it to the public.

Looks like Apple has sold 30 MILLION iPhone X's generating over $36 BILLION in sales. That's roughly the size of the Coca Cola corporation. In under 5 months. I'd say they did something right. Oh, but it disappointed your strange sense of style so your opinion totally matters.
What are you rambling on about?
I never said “Apple knew the design was ugly and released it anyway!”, and where did I recommend an imbalanced top and bottom screen design? I said the opposite! If you actually read my response, you’d see that I said Apple wouldn’t do that, so the notch is the best solution as the alternative is thicker top and bottom bezels. Even Samsung nowadays wouldn’t do that.
I am fully aware that they care passionately about design, hence why I cannot understand why people like you seem to think they are not bothered by the notch and not working to remove it.

How many iPhone Xs sold is entirely irrelevant! I own one of those 30 million. I am not talking about the potential profitability of a product, I’m talking about the design and functionality of a product.
 
There’s a strangely well timed article that seems to back me up on this:
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/03/07/iphone-x-smaller-notch-2018-no-notch-2019/

Also I am not saying the notch is a failure, I don’t know where you got that idea from. I am saying it is not desirable and Apple intend to (and are working towards) removing it. You seem to agree with that so I don’t know why we are arguing, the difference (I think) is that you believe it won’t go away any time soon.

ET News and almost 2 year out rumor prediction? LOL

Um, yeah I'll wait and see... Also, did you read what I wrote in the remark that you quoted?

I said:
Of course the notch will get smaller and at some point it will be gone. Most rational people understand that and it's called advancement.. What it does not mean, when it eventually happens, is that it was a failure..
 
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Adding what?
They are adding FaceID, and I think you fail to understand that
FaceID =/= notch

Adding means something that wasn’t on last years pros thought that was obvious

Think you need to understand the notch is currently needed for Face ID
 
Think you need to understand the notch is currently needed for Face ID
I am going to guess you mean the notch is needed in order to house the new technology. I am also going to guess that you understand that the notch is not needed for FaceID to work. Thus the iPad Pro in no way needs to have a notch for FaceID.
 
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Question?? If you think notch will be removed from the future iPhones?? Then where will be the sensors housed? Do you have any indication??

They are few simple option just look what samsung did , don't miss understand me i will never buy a phone that is not an iPhone but I like there solution better
 
Doesn't waste any more space than a full bezel would.
It does. What it wastes is the screen area. iPhone x is supposed to have larger screen area than iPhone 8 Plus but in a smaller form factor. Instead, it does not have much larger screen than 8 Plus, but the notch makes watching video a pain to deal with. The bezel is there to strengthen the phone and house the sensors, not to reduce the screen size. Apple could make the bezel even thicker while we still have the same screen area (won't happen but just saying). The notch, however, reduces the screen area.

Unless Apple figures out a way to hide all sensors and front facing camera under the screen, the notch will be there, and continue to be an eyesore for many peoeple.
 
And the speaker and microphone? How will that work under the screen?
Just put speaker and microphone at where they are now. Oh, you mean the hearing piece? Thicken the bezel a bit and make room for hearing piece.
 
Here is an article from someone with some sensible opinions on the subject of the notch going away.

Many of us are saying exactly the same points here for some time now but there are others who just wants to push ahead with their own views as fact without having the real technological know how.
 
Notch is here until Apple figures out something better. There’s been a few patents with other ideas but who knows if Apple will bring the patent to life
 
To you notch lovers, I have some devastating news. According to Pocket Now Daily, Apple will be killing the notch in 2019. To the rest of us, halla-freakin-loulia.

So long notch, you pathetic flawed piece of garbage.

And to those that claim to genuinely like the notch, maybe as a rebound job you could turn to the protruding camera bulge at the back for comfort, you should have no problem adjusting, it's almost as horrible as the notch.
 
To you notch lovers, I have some devastating news. According to Pocket Now Daily, Apple will be killing the notch in 2019. To the rest of us, halla-freakin-loulia..

Not sure why you’re getting all excited about one rumor that doesn’t have any validation or inside sources with Apple? Either way, I would expect the notch to eventually reduce overtime and be replaced by something with more mature technology. Either way, it’s still here for another year at minimum throughout 2018, perhaps 2019.
 
To you notch lovers, I have some devastating news. According to Pocket Now Daily, Apple will be killing the notch in 2019. To the rest of us, halla-freakin-loulia.

So long notch, you pathetic flawed piece of garbage.

And to those that claim to genuinely like the notch, maybe as a rebound job you could turn to the protruding camera bulge at the back for comfort, you should have no problem adjusting, it's almost as horrible as the notch.

Wow. Only on the internet.
 
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Not sure why you’re getting all excited about one rumor that doesn’t have any validation or inside sources with Apple? Either way, I would expect the notch to eventually reduce overtime and be replaced by something with more mature technology. Either way, it’s still here for another year at minimum throughout 2018, perhaps 2019.

Wow. Only on the internet.

Yeah my uncles, nephews, brothers friend who knows a guy that said his sisters boyfriends mother said that Apple is killing the notch next week!

Back on planet earth, of course the notch will get smaller and eventually go away when the tech reaches that point. Using the same type old and worn out lunacy then I suppose the home button and touchID was a massive failure since Apple is phasing it out..

But...... The internet sure can be a fun and entertaining place at times, that's for sure. I enjoyed his post and it gave me a good morning giggle to go along with my morning news and coffee...
 
Wow. Only on the internet.

And what particular site on the internet is this sunshine?
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Not sure why you’re getting all excited about one rumor that doesn’t have any validation or inside sources with Apple? Either way, I would expect the notch to eventually reduce overtime and be replaced by something with more mature technology. Either way, it’s still here for another year at minimum throughout 2018, perhaps 2019.

My point is, Apple will get rid of the notch as soon as better technology comes along. Yet the way some clowns carry on on here, you'd be forgiven for thinking the notch is a killer feature, like the imessages app or something. I mean someone actually started a thread saying how he was actually a fan of it, not to be confused with accepting it or living with it or not minding it. He was actually a fan. Crazy.
 
It’ll stay and get progressively smaller until the tech reaches a point where they can make the components small enough to eliminate it.

I think that's true - pretty obviously true...the BIG question is: when? Recent rumors offer some answers, but who knows what the manufacturers can actually deliver, and when. There's a report out now that Samsung has at least deferred trying to get a fingerprint reader under the display of its flagship phones.
 
just a question: do you guys think the notch will stay in the iPhone in the future or after iphone x they will find away to get rid of it?
I would prefer a small notch over Samsung’s full width bezel in the 9.
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And what particular site on the internet is this sunshine?
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My point is, Apple will get rid of the notch as soon as better technology comes along. Yet the way some clowns carry on on here, you'd be forgiven for thinking the notch is a killer feature, like the imessages app or something. I mean someone actually started a thread saying how he was actually a fan of it, not to be confused with accepting it or living with it or not minding it. He was actually a fan. Crazy.
Who pissed in your Cheerios this morning?
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To you notch lovers, I have some devastating news. According to Pocket Now Daily, Apple will be killing the notch in 2019. To the rest of us, halla-freakin-loulia.

So long notch, you pathetic flawed piece of garbage.

And to those that claim to genuinely like the notch, maybe as a rebound job you could turn to the protruding camera bulge at the back for comfort, you should have no problem adjusting, it's almost as horrible as the notch.
What do you prefer instead? Samsung’s full width bezel?
 
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I Just had a look at the new S9 and S9+ today in a shop, while I am not a fan of Samsungs version of Android, the devices look amazing, a far better design IMHO and 2 sizes to suit different needs. The notch looks like a complete joke compared to these. Apple have released lots of great products, they were bound to release a lemon sooner or later.
 
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It does. What it wastes is the screen area.
It does not waste screen area, as this area would normally be used for the bezel, just as it is on all previous iPhone models. Apple gave us more display area by extending the screen around the notch. The only real time the notch is an issue for me is when I watch video. I am not a fan of the notch and I see it as a poor design choice. But like it or love it, too many misunderstandings exist where the notch is concerned.

The bezel is there to strengthen the phone and house the sensors, not to reduce the screen size.
Watching normal video on the X is letter boxed on right and left sides. Only when you expand the video for full screen does the notch pose a problem. The X+ should solve this as the normal viewing will be the same size as normal viewing on the previous plus models.

Apple could make the bezel even thicker while we still have the same screen area (won't happen but just saying). The notch, however, reduces the screen area.
A full Bezel would remove the area to the right and left of the notch and thus reduce screen display. The little icons would now need to be placed below the bezel.

Unless Apple figures out a way to hide all sensors and front facing camera under the screen, the notch will be there, and continue to be an eyesore for many peoeple.
Don't buy the X series then.
 
I Just had a look at the new S9 and S9+ today in a shop, while I am not a fan of Samsungs version of Android, the devices look amazing, a far better design IMHO and 2 sizes to suit different needs. The notch looks like a complete joke compared to these. Apple have released lots of great products, they were bound to release a lemon sooner or later.

Well that clears everything up. The X is a fail because of the notch. Go home everybody. It’s over.
 
Well that clears everything up. The X is a fail because of the notch. Go home everybody. It’s over.

Yeah, what's it been now 4 months of constant online tantrums over it? You'd figure that by now people would be exhausted from all the effort they've put into hating on it and would have moved on.. Some might even be close to having a stroke over it if the postings here are any indication..

Meh, people should get what they want an move on if the X is not to their liking. Don't like the notch? Cool beans! Nobody is forcing them to buy it as there are plenty of other options..
 
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