My thoughts exactly.
Some of the threads that trickle into this forum such go straight into the garbage.
But I'll bite.
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My thoughts exactly.
Some of the threads that trickle into this forum such go straight into the garbage.
But I'll bite.
I don't know where do you get the impression that iPhone 5's A6 chip is ancient and slow. iPhone 5 is actually the fastest smartphone even 8 months after it's announcement . Search Youtube for speed comparisons between iPhone 5 and htc one, and you'll see how the "ancient" iPhone 5 smokes htc one (and experia z and galaxy s4). The difference is also noticeable in graphic intensive games such as RR3, Iron man etc. Iphone 5 runs them buttery smooth, while the htc one and other android flagships have plenty of hiccups. So, saying the iPhone 5 and A6 chip are ancient and slow is light years away from truth.
As for the screen, the additional pixels of the one's screen won't be noticeable from your normal viewing distance (around 10"). Maybe you could see the difference if you stared at the screen from about 2", but that's just pushing it and it certainly isn't considered normal usage. Screen size is a subjective matter and you have all the right to want or love a bigger screen.
I agree that the iPhone's camera is pretty basic, but there are tons of other camera apps which can do much much more. (Camera+ for example lets you do pretty much anything htc one's camera can. Cortex camera easily beats other phones in low light for still shots). Other than taking low light pictures with slightly less noise htc one is no match for the iPhone's camera (or the other androids) in good light. (One more thing about htc one's camera - Forget about cropping, as even a moderately cropped image will show plenty of unwanted pixels).
IR blaster... really not my thing
I haven't heard htc one's speakers, but those are still phone speakers and cannot be that great (no (smart)phone speakers are) I wouldn't buy my smartphone based on it's speakers, because you can't really enjoy music to it's fullest on phone (without ear/headphones)
Just to mention from my personal experience and a iPhone owners.
All games play just as well on the any flagship Android phone. Very high FPS. Plus look better on a larger screen and you can use a game controller. However some games aren't in the play store that are in the App Store. Regardless while phone A might be faster the phone B in real world the differences in a game are not noticeable. Some apps are stuttery though but the same can be said for the iPhone. It looks like the just fixed Facebook.....again....
Htc One screen is noticeably better at normal viewing distance. Never used an S4. But I was actually shocked by how nice the screen was more so then a 3Gs to 4S but that's probably because I wasn't used to the 3GS like I am the retina. However I was using an iPad 2 the other day and it took me a long time to realize it, had to look in the settings to confirm.
NO app in the App Store give you even close to what is available with Android camera software. Iso, white balance, etc. As a Camera+ user I do not recommend it if you are looking for more options. It gives you a timer and the ability to edit photos like Instagram does. It's nothing in comparison to what the htc and Samsung phones have out of the box. That said however I still think the iPhone has the best camera.
Htc speaker seems louder and clearer which is nice when showing someone a video but I agree for the most part not a big deal to me.
Really? HTC better build? I think not. Better screen? No. Bigger yes. Better camera? Not per the pictures I have been seeing.
Okay, so it has two speakers vs one....
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1) They need a faster processor to prevent the serious lag that android phones have. iOS is very smooth and fast with the dual core and performs faster than some faster phones. Hint. S3.
2) More customizable? I guess if people are into that, but most are not. Most want a phone that works well all the time without having to customize it to get it to work properly. The iPhone wins every time here.
3) iPhone has a IPS Retina display. IPS displays are the best ones in the market for color accuracy and people who are into photography. Bigger is not always better. Clearer is better.
4) The camera. The iphone 5 camera is the one to beat. It has been the best one in the market and all the pictures I see from the HTC One do not show it's better.
5) IR blaster, really? Waste.
6) Speakers, only use mine for the ringer or videos. Don't care if it's stereo, don't care if it's loud (the iphone is very loud and clear). So what. A gimmick and adds weight.
Hardware design: The HTC one has the best processor chip on the market to datea: 1.7GHz quad-core processor, the iPhone 5 has an ancient A6 chip that's only 1.3GHz and dual-core.
Software design: Andriod phones are way more customizable.
Screen size: The HTC Ones 4.7″ display is bigger than the iPhone 5′s 4″display, making it better for video, web browsing and most apps. The HTC Ones display has a resolution of 1080p (1920 x 1080 pixels), matching most HDTVs resolution, while the iPhone 5′s display has a resolution of just 1136 x 640 pixels. The HTC One packs 45% more pixels per inch (PPI) in its display than the iPhone 5 (468 PPI vs 326 PPI). At the end bigger screen offers better readability for all ages.
Camera: The iPhone 5 camera is pretty good as far as smartphone cameras go, but the iOS camera app leaves a lot to be desired. One reason iPhone users download so many camera apps is because the stock camera app doesnt do much beyond snap photos and shoot video, just like it has since 2007. Yes, Apples added Panorama and HDR modes, but users have to launch a photo editing app to apply filters or otherwise tweak photos.
IR Blaster: If you say it's pointless. I guess it's pointless for all
Sound: A phone is mainly used with headphones? ..... No
I was talking about HTC-One and S4...
The HTC-One is a unibody phone. Source: ifixit.com.
I agree.
I agree and disagree since both iOS and Andriod have around the same amount of APPs available for download. Source: http://techland.time.com/2013/04/16/ios-vs-android/
Like I said, I am very use to iOS usage, but sometimes a change is good.
You are very wrong... HTC One vs Apple iPhone 5 Which Is Faster/Better BenchmarkI don't know where do you get the impression that iPhone 5's A6 chip is ancient and slow. iPhone 5 is actually the fastest smartphone even 8 months after it's announcement . Search Youtube for speed comparisons between iPhone 5 and htc one, and you'll see how the "ancient" iPhone 5 smokes htc one (and experia z and galaxy s4). The difference is also noticeable in graphic intensive games such as RR3, Iron man etc. Iphone 5 runs them buttery smooth, while the htc one and other android flagships have plenty of hiccups. So, saying the iPhone 5 and A6 chip are ancient and slow is light years away from truth.
As for the screen, the additional pixels of the one's screen won't be noticeable from your normal viewing distance (around 10"). Maybe you could see the difference if you stared at the screen from about 2", but that's just pushing it and it certainly isn't considered normal usage. Screen size is a subjective matter and you have all the right to want or love a bigger screen.
I agree that the iPhone's camera is pretty basic, but there are tons of other camera apps which can do much much more. (Camera+ for example lets you do pretty much anything htc one's camera can. Cortex camera easily beats other phones in low light for still shots). Other than taking low light pictures with slightly less noise htc one is no match for the iPhone's camera (or the other androids) in good light. (One more thing about htc one's camera - Forget about cropping, as even a moderately cropped image will show plenty of unwanted pixels).
IR blaster... really not my thing
I haven't heard htc one's speakers, but those are still phone speakers and cannot be that great (no (smart)phone speakers are) I wouldn't buy my smartphone based on it's speakers, because you can't really enjoy music to it's fullest on phone (without ear/headphones)
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwUWWJkZdwI
I am not saying the A6 chip is slow. It's just HTC-One is truly faster.
Not going to argue on an Apple forum anymore.... If you want to see more comparisons, just google this: "reasons iphone 5 better htc one". You'll pretty much find no reviewers saying iPhone 5 is > than HTC-One.
Sure... some functions on smartphones would not be useful for all; fastest might not be necessary; biggest might not be the best. So why don't we all just buy an iPhone 1?
I have 3 phones under my AT&T contract. I think I am doing an early upgrade which will be eligible this month.
Do yourself a favor and google this: "Reasons iphone 5 better htc one"
You'll be surprised without reading any of their reviews
Yes maybe I will when iPhone 6 is out... I really did love iPhone 1 to 4, I've never stayed with any brands for that long other than Apple. 4S and 5 just seems like a letdown for me.
You seem to be blinded.
1) IOS has more APPS than the Android Play Store.
2) iPhone 5 IS FASTER than most new phones. You are the wrong one.
3) Don't need too as I have owned many and have read all the reviews.
I have owned many Android phones.
Including the Samsung S3, and Note 2 as recent. I am now back on the iPhone 5 because it works better and is faster.
1) IOS has more APPS than the Android Play Store.
2) iPhone 5 IS FASTER than most new phones. You are the wrong one.
3) Don't need too as I have owned many and have read all the reviews.
I have owned many Android phones.
Including the Samsung S3, and Note 2 as recent. I am now back on the iPhone 5 because it works better and is faster.
I was talking about HTC-One and S4...
The HTC-One is a unibody phone. Source: ifixit.com.
I agree.
I agree and disagree since both iOS and Andriod have around the same amount of APPs available for download. Source: http://techland.time.com/2013/04/16/ios-vs-android/
Like I said, I am very use to iOS usage, but sometimes a change is good.
You are very wrong... HTC One vs Apple iPhone 5 Which Is Faster/Better Benchmark
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwUWWJkZdwI
I am not saying the A6 chip is slow. It's just HTC-One is truly faster.
Not going to argue on an Apple forum anymore.... If you want to see more comparisons, just google this: "reasons iphone 5 better htc one". You'll pretty much find no reviewers saying iPhone 5 is > than HTC-One.
Sure... some functions on smartphones would not be useful for all; fastest might not be necessary; biggest might not be the best. So why don't we all just buy an iPhone 1?
I have 3 phones under my AT&T contract. I think I am doing an early upgrade which will be eligible this month.
Do yourself a favor and google this: "Reasons iphone 5 better htc one"
You'll be surprised without reading any of their reviews
Yes maybe I will when iPhone 6 is out... I really did love iPhone 1 to 4, I've never stayed with any brands for that long other than Apple. 4S and 5 just seems like a letdown for me.
1) Your source? If you have read my post above yours, you'll actually find a source link where it states they have around the same amount of APPs.
2) I never said iPhone 5 is slow, can you point me to my post? lol.
3)Try HTC-One/S4, this is 2013 not 2012... You are comparing the wrong phones if you have actually read my OP.
FIY, I was just at the AT&T store playing with the HTC-One and iPhone 5. HTC-One is faster. Again I am not talking about S3 or the Note 2. Thanks.
BTW just google "Reasons iphone 5 better htc one". Because I think you are the one that's blinded...
I was talking about HTC-One and S4...
The HTC-One is a unibody phone. Source: ifixit.com.
I agree.
I agree and disagree since both iOS and Andriod have around the same amount of APPs available for download. Source: http://techland.time.com/2013/04/16/ios-vs-android/
Like I said, I am very use to iOS usage, but sometimes a change is good.
You are very wrong... HTC One vs Apple iPhone 5 Which Is Faster/Better Benchmark
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwUWWJkZdwI
I am not saying the A6 chip is slow. It's just HTC-One is truly faster.
Not going to argue on an Apple forum anymore.... If you want to see more comparisons, just google this: "reasons iphone 5 better htc one". You'll pretty much find no reviewers saying iPhone 5 is > than HTC-One.
Sure... some functions on smartphones would not be useful for all; fastest might not be necessary; biggest might not be the best. So why don't we all just buy an iPhone 1?
I have 3 phones under my AT&T contract. I think I am doing an early upgrade which will be eligible this month.
Do yourself a favor and google this: "Reasons iphone 5 better htc one"
You'll be surprised without reading any of their reviews
Yes maybe I will when iPhone 6 is out... I really did love iPhone 1 to 4, I've never stayed with any brands for that long other than Apple. 4S and 5 just seems like a letdown for me.
I'm sorry but you are wrong on the speed part. I was not refering to benchmark tests. Who cares about that. I was refering to browser speed tests, gaming, opening apps etc. In those, real world usage tests you can see that iPhone 5 is faster than any other phone. These tests are way more important than some artificial benchmarks. ( unless you buy a phone for bragging rights, so you can say that your phone scored 3000 in the geekbench test, and the iphone 5 scored 1600, when in reality the higher scoring phone is actually slower). I've watched enough YouTube comparisons between these flagship phones to conclude that iphone 5 is still the fastest phone out there. (Don't make me paste YouTube links here...)
For the record, more apps does not equal same apps...
For example I'd point out that the Google Play Store is missing Toast (a promising startup on gift giving as a social network) and NBC. It doesn't make Apple's App Store necessarily better, but numbers don't tell the full story.
For example I'd point out that the Google Play Store is missing Toast (a promising startup on gift giving as a social network) and NBC. It doesn't make Apple's App Store necessarily better, but numbers don't tell the full story.
unibody - A single molded unit forming both the bodywork and chassis
That's the misleading part. The HTC One has a nice aluminum backplate, but the sides are fused (glued), as well as the speaker grills. So in fact it is not unibody in the traditional sense in that the phone is made up of multiple parts. i.e. misleading
I'm not faulting anyone for liking it, I just said I didn't like it from the design pov.
Also, this post was initially in the iPhone forum and got moved to the alt forum -_-
Thought it was funny that this thread and this one were together on New posts today!
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1582649/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1582649/
1. They need a faster processor to do more. Running multiple apps at the same time on screen comes at a cost.
2. You're just speaking for yourself. And regardless who cares. Is it more customizable? Yes. You are just being defensive.
3. You've never looked at the HTC one obviously, its an extremely close race when it comes to color accuracy. And you just said in #2 "most" referring to people in general, do you think "most" people are photographers? Even if they were they'd find the feature pack Andtoid app more enticing. Photographers are the ones interested in ISO and white balance and etc. iPhone doesn't have that.
4. Camera is great on the iPhone. App is lacking, I'll admit its more then adequate for my needs though.
5. I probably wouldnt use this either but I have 2x 200 dollar universal remotes in my house. So.....I could see it being useful to someone.
6. Again, if you don't use it then its not useful? When I show someone a video on my iPhone I always wish I had more volume. If I don't use the camera on my iphone that doesn't void the point the iPhone has a good one do it? So why does the opposite apply?
You should have at least ended your post with "that's my opinion" regardless of how terrible it is.
Don't chase him down the rabbit hole, cyn. Nothing good can come out of that. Not even for the rabbit.
Michael
I only made it to this post before I made a post, so if someone has already said this sorry. I just have to correct you for a second.
You are completely wrong on 3 of those things. Yes the HTC One has a better screen than the iPhone 5. It is 1080p. You can scream and stomp your feet that the iPhone screen is better, but no one will agree with that. Yes preference comes into play when you are talking about the same resolution. Something like the iPhone 5 and note 2, but it is freaking 1080p. Go look up some reviews and then say it is about preference. I put screen and display in the same category, so I will not discuss that again.
Speakers. Again you can say preference all you want, but the quality of the speakers are better on the One. Again go look at reviews. I know you love your iPhone, and sure their are things it does better. It just is not display and speakers.
Sounds to me you are the one being defensive. I looked at a One last weekend in Dallas when I was there. Wasn't impressed.
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So WHAT if it's 1080p. That means jack. You can have a 720p plasma vs a 1080p LCD. Guess what usually the PLASMA looks better.
Again, 1080p does not get around the pixels showing at close range. Put the phone close to your face and you will see them but not on the iphone. FACT is it's better than it use to be, but it still is not RETINA quality.
The HTC and GS4 are really nice phones. The GS4 has the same problem (at least for me) as the GS3...it feels cheaply made...I just can't get over the plastic feel to it.
I'll probably never switch from Apple, but to me, iCloud is a complete joke. Apple has to do a better job of this. The only thing iCloud is good for is restoring your iPhone if it crashes or you replace it.
I'll probably never switch from Apple, but to me, iCloud is a complete joke. Apple has to do a better job of this. The only thing iCloud is good for is restoring your iPhone if it crashes or you replace it.
worldwide sales figures for the smartphone category show Android in general at 75 percent of the market.
as a smartphone vendor, Apple is also in second place. for q1 Apple sold 18 million units. Samsung sold 30 million.
so by which of these measures is it the best selling phone?
these aren't my numbers, they are the Gartner Group numbers.
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the best way to kill sales of your current product is to announce a new model that isn't shipping for 3 months.
For the first quote, I was referring to last years sales numbers and indeed the iphone line outsold any other single manufacturers smartphone series line in 2012. (For example the iphone series outsold the galaxy series of samsung) Sorry, I should have been more clear on that.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_mobile_phones
For the second quote, I was not referring to a new model of the iphone. Rather, I was referring to ios 7.
I'm having a tough time getting my mind around the concept that a lower PPI looks better than a higher PPI at any given distance. could you educate me on that please.
seems to me that the closer you get, the better the higher PPI looks.
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Android is not a phone.
and iPhone isn't one phone either. Currently on the market are the 4 the 4s, and the 5.