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jrswizzle

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Sure it isn't, that's why iPhone 5 has 326 ppi :rolleyes: .
On a serious note, all I'm saying is that the difference between iphone 5's and HTC one's screen isn't that noticable in terms of sharpness from a relatively normal viewing distance (around 10"). You could maybe see the difference if you glued your face to the screen.
In terms of color accuracy, viewing angels, brightness you can't really do better that the iPhone 5. (S4 has a higher contrast ratio and smaller brightness drop when viewed at angles, but has a bigger color shift, less accurate colors overall)

I have both and actually prefer the HTC One....

The difference in display quality isn't all that noticeable and certainly wouldn't be at all to me if I wasn't looking at them side-by-side.

While the iPhone 5 still gets brighter, the HTC One does seem a tad bit sharper and of course, the larger screen makes the slight increase in quality more apparent.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Sure it isn't, that's why iPhone 5 has 326 ppi :rolleyes: .
On a serious note, all I'm saying is that the difference between iphone 5's and HTC one's screen isn't that noticable in terms of sharpness from a relatively normal viewing distance (around 10"). You could maybe see the difference if you glued your face to the screen.
In terms of color accuracy, viewing angels, brightness you can't really do better that the iPhone 5. (S4 has a higher contrast ratio and smaller brightness drop when viewed at angles, but has a bigger color shift, less accurate colors overall)


Every comparison video I've seen shows the iPhone 5 to be the worst vs the HTC One or S4 when it comes to viewing angles.
 

TommyA6

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Every comparison video I've seen shows the iPhone 5 to be the worst vs the HTC One or S4 when it comes to viewing angles.

http://www.redmondpie.com/iphone-5-...e-vs-lumia-920-vs-xperia-z-screen-comparison/ iPhone 5 and htc one clearly the best in viewing angles with iphone 5 slightly better

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJmgIpArXxk outdoor visibility comparison iPhone 5 vs galaxy s4 (iPhone 5 a lot better than the s4)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2wIyn_C1pY oudoor visibility iphone 5 vs htc one (pretty much the same)
 

GR33NIE

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I'm holding off until WWDC, honestly think if Apple don't raise the bar though more people will leave.

I'm a longterm iPhone user but reality is there are better phones on the market now, dare I say it even considering a new BlackBerry :confused:
 

TommyA6

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I have both and actually prefer the HTC One....

The difference in display quality isn't all that noticeable and certainly wouldn't be at all to me if I wasn't looking at them side-by-side.

While the iPhone 5 still gets brighter, the HTC One does seem a tad bit sharper and of course, the larger screen makes the slight increase in quality more apparent.

A very good comment :)
HTC one is a bit sharper but comparing everything else (except for the size where htc one is obviously bigger and iphone 5 is smaller :D) there is not much between them, with the iPhone 5 being slightly brighter and maybe very slightly better viewing angles. (although I don't think it is noticable).
 

Prissy

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http://www.redmondpie.com/iphone-5-...e-vs-lumia-920-vs-xperia-z-screen-comparison/ iPhone 5 and htc one clearly the best in viewing angles with iphone 5 slightly better

The iPhone 5 and HTC One both impressed in this particular test, with each handset managing to "retain a more natural color balance.

The next test was the resolution, and with the HTC One boasting the highest pixel density of the bunch, its on-paper rep was confirmed by PhoneArena‘s stress tests. At 468 ppi, it’s a cut above the rest,


Where does it say the iPhone 5 is slightly better than the HTC one?

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I'm holding off until WWDC, honestly think if Apple don't raise the bar though more people will leave.

I'm a longterm iPhone user but reality is there are better phones on the market now, dare I say it even considering a new BlackBerry :confused:

Yes I am also holding it off til WWDC.
 

LorPGDL

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Apr 23, 2011
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Sure it isn't, that's why iPhone 5 has 326 ppi :rolleyes: .
On a serious note, all I'm saying is that the difference between iphone 5's and HTC one's screen isn't that noticable in terms of sharpness from a relatively normal viewing distance (around 10"). You could maybe see the difference if you glued your face to the screen.
In terms of color accuracy, viewing angels, brightness you can't really do better that the iPhone 5. (S4 has a higher contrast ratio and smaller brightness drop when viewed at angles, but has a bigger color shift, less accurate colors overall)

dude, i have a one and an iphone 5 sitting right next to each other with a picture taken by my nikon d 90. now the colours of the one have a blue tinge, while the iphones go into yellow. (however, its difficult to appreciate the ones higher pixel density because you barely see any details on the iphones screen)

both barely come close to a realistic picture, so its down to preference whether you prefer the ones perception of reality or the iphones.

regarding viewing angles the iphone may be better by a hair, but only in maximum viewing angles.

and this "you only notice the higher pixel density if you have your eyes glued to the screen" is pure apple fanboy bs (sorry for the harsh words), but that is only true if you have very poor eyesight.

the difference is not huge, but its clearly noticeable. mic drop :cool:
 

jrswizzle

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dude, i have a one and an iphone 5 sitting right next to each other with a picture taken by my nikon d 90. now the colours of the one have a blue tinge, while the iphones go into yellow. (however, its difficult to appreciate the ones higher pixel density because you barely see any details on the iphones screen)

both barely come close to a realistic picture, so its down to preference whether you prefer the ones perception of reality or the iphones.

regarding viewing angles the iphone may be better by a hair, but only in maximum viewing angles.

and this "you only notice the higher pixel density if you have your eyes glued to the screen" is pure apple fanboy bs (sorry for the harsh words), but that is only true if you have very poor eyesight.

the difference is not huge, but its clearly noticeable. mic drop :cool:

So I'm to believe your post over technical reviews that actually measure the accuracy and reproduction of these devices?

How about this to blow your little "everyone's an Apple fanboy" world up....

The HTC One is the best phone on the market (better than the iPhone 5) IMO. The difference in screen quality is not really noticeable. You have to be looking for differences to notice.

ZOMG, did I just praise both the One AND iP5 in the same post......no way....not possible. I HAVE to be a fanboy to say something positive about the iP5, but if I was a fanboy - why would I like the One better and use it daily?

Confusing, I know.....but don't fret. You'll understand someday.

20/15 vision btw...
 

LorPGDL

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So I'm to believe your post over technical reviews that actually measure the accuracy and reproduction of these devices?

How about this to blow your little "everyone's an Apple fanboy" world up....

The HTC One is the best phone on the market (better than the iPhone 5) IMO. The difference in screen quality is not really noticeable. You have to be looking for differences to notice.

ZOMG, did I just praise both the One AND iP5 in the same post......no way....not possible. I HAVE to be a fanboy to say something positive about the iP5, but if I was a fanboy - why would I like the One better and use it daily?

Confusing, I know.....but don't fret. You'll understand someday.

20/15 vision btw...

wow, guess what, i think the iphones screen is very good as well, but show me display reviews where they say it is not (really) noticeable that the ones screen is sharper. and refrain from belittling me, alright?
 

jrswizzle

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wow, guess what, i think the iphones screen is very good as well, but show me display reviews where they say it is not (really) noticeable that the ones screen is sharper. and refrain from belittling me, alright?

Read Anandtech's review - incredibly detailed and while he does say that in tests, the cold white temperature has a blue tint, it doesn't look blue.

He also mentions that while the display is crisp, the PPI is overkill. His only comparison with the iP5 is that the One gives it a run for its money as far as color reproduction.

When I said it wasn't noticeable I was speaking from my personal experience of the two. I referred to reviews when discussing the color accuracy of the iPhone 5 and HTC One (which house the two most color accurate displays of any smartphones).

I apologize for belittling.....it was uncalled for.
 

LorPGDL

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Read Anandtech's review - incredibly detailed and while he does say that in tests, the cold white temperature has a blue tint, it doesn't look blue.

He also mentions that while the display is crisp, the PPI is overkill. His only comparison with the iP5 is that the One gives it a run for its money as far as color reproduction.

When I said it wasn't noticeable I was speaking from my personal experience of the two. I referred to reviews when discussing the color accuracy of the iPhone 5 and HTC One (which house the two most color accurate displays of any smartphones).

I apologize for belittling.....it was uncalled for.


thank you, no worries. i know anandtechs review, brian klug is the man regarding smarphone reviews and gives the popcorn-tech blogs like the verge and engadget a run for its money.

lets just agree to disagree, i am of the opinion that the ones screen is noticeably sharper, but not dramatically. you dont, which is fine, i dont want to force my opinion down anyones throat.

im just happy i finally got an android phone worthy of the iphones qualities- build quality, software responsiveness etc... somethign that was nonexistent up until the one was released imho
 

C0C0A

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May 17, 2013
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I'm holding off until WWDC, honestly think if Apple don't raise the bar though more people will leave.

I'm a longterm iPhone user but reality is there are better phones on the market now, dare I say it even considering a new BlackBerry :confused:

Absolutely. It's already too late, people just seem ignorant about using a less capable device. Although... Blackberry, really? :confused:

Even though we use the saying "there are no stupid questions," there are. Just the same "even though we have choices," there are bad ones. iPhone being one.

Apple is being out innovated at every turn:
- HTC One > iPhone 5
- Windows Surface Pro > iPad
- Google/Asus Nexus 7 > iPad mini
- Google Pixel > Macbook
- Google Glass > iWatch
- Google Play Music All Access > iRadio
- Google Android > iOS

It isn't just the end of iPhone, it's practically the end of Apple. If it weren't for iTunes, which is about to be overtaken by Google and Amazon, they would have absolutely no winning products.

http://betanews.com/2013/03/14/how-pathetic-apple-has-become/
 

bmac4

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Absolutely. It's already too late, people just seem ignorant about using a less capable device. Although... Blackberry, really? :confused:

Even though we use the saying "there are no stupid questions," there are. Just the same "even though we have choices," there are bad ones. iPhone being one.

Apple is being out innovated at every turn:
- HTC One > iPhone 5
- Windows Surface Pro > iPad
- Google/Asus Nexus 7 > iPad mini
- Google Pixel > Macbook
- Google Glass > iWatch
- Google Play Music All Access > iRadio
- Google Android > iOS

It isn't just the end of iPhone, it's practically the end of Apple. If it weren't for iTunes, which is about to be overtaken by Google and Amazon, they would have absolutely no winning products.

http://betanews.com/2013/03/14/how-pathetic-apple-has-become/

Wow that is pretty drastic wouldn't you say? I mean Yea things have move way faster in the android camp, but that does not Apple is in trouble. You may believe all those things are true, and I agree with some or it, but the numbers sure don't show that. People still love Apple, and I don't see things changing for awhile. I am android guy, but I do realize how big Apple still is. Now if things stay the same for the next couple of years, and Apple changes very little. Then Yea maybe we are talking about Apple riding off into the sunset, but I see no signs of that yet.
 

Toltepeceno

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Android phones of this year have better specs than the iPhone from last year.
Wow. :rolleyes:

It's still apple's flagship unless they have something else stashed away. I don't see the 5s bumping up display past apple's "retina" so it doesn't really matter.

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it isn't just the end of iphone, it's practically the end of apple. If it weren't for itunes, which is about to be overtaken by google and amazon, they would have absolutely no winning products.

What BS.
 

torana355

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Dec 8, 2009
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Absolutely. It's already too late, people just seem ignorant about using a less capable device. Although... Blackberry, really? :confused:

Even though we use the saying "there are no stupid questions," there are. Just the same "even though we have choices," there are bad ones. iPhone being one.

Apple is being out innovated at every turn:
- HTC One > iPhone 5
- Windows Surface Pro > iPad
- Google/Asus Nexus 7 > iPad mini
- Google Pixel > Macbook
- Google Glass > iWatch
- Google Play Music All Access > iRadio
- Google Android > iOS

It isn't just the end of iPhone, it's practically the end of Apple. If it weren't for iTunes, which is about to be overtaken by Google and Amazon, they would have absolutely no winning products.

http://betanews.com/2013/03/14/how-pathetic-apple-has-become/

Mate im an Android user but i would not go as far as you have by saying every product that Google make is better then the Apple equivalent. I still think the iPad has the edge on Android tablets for now.
 

jrswizzle

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thank you, no worries. i know anandtechs review, brian klug is the man regarding smarphone reviews and gives the popcorn-tech blogs like the verge and engadget a run for its money.

lets just agree to disagree, i am of the opinion that the ones screen is noticeably sharper, but not dramatically. you dont, which is fine, i dont want to force my opinion down anyones throat.

im just happy i finally got an android phone worthy of the iphones qualities- build quality, software responsiveness etc... somethign that was nonexistent up until the one was released imho

The bolded we both 100% agree on.
 

Foxymusik

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With the iPhone or any apple product you get quality and reliability with excellent support and regular updates.. If something goes wrong there it is corrected.. My 4s is nearly 2years old and battery still going strong I still have my 3GS which is 5 years old and just put a new battery in..

But it all depends what you want.. Windows phones are great but the support is none exsitant and does not update older models android is the same..

Sorry and I never thought I would say this but apple offers the most stable platform.. As for size my iPhone is quite big enough thank you.. I have owned a mobile phone since 1986 and although they got too small in the 90's I don't relish the thought of carrying a brick or should I say roof tile around in my pocket again..
 

TommyA6

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Absolutely. It's already too late, people just seem ignorant about using a less capable device. Although... Blackberry, really? :confused:

Even though we use the saying "there are no stupid questions," there are. Just the same "even though we have choices," there are bad ones. iPhone being one.

Apple is being out innovated at every turn:
- HTC One > iPhone 5
- Windows Surface Pro > iPad
- Google/Asus Nexus 7 > iPad mini
- Google Pixel > Macbook
- Google Glass > iWatch
- Google Play Music All Access > iRadio
- Google Android > iOS


It isn't just the end of iPhone, it's practically the end of Apple. If it weren't for iTunes, which is about to be overtaken by Google and Amazon, they would have absolutely no winning products.

http://betanews.com/2013/03/14/how-pathetic-apple-has-become/

To say this is a delusional post is the understatement of the year. First you compare a laptop/tablet hybrid (or whatever it is), with the iPad (a pure tablet). These two products have almost nothing in common. iPad is twice the tablet surface pro is (much more portable, much, much, much, much better battery, better screen...), while surface is a better netbook (or whatever that is), which is expected considering the iPad isn't even trying to compete in that category.
Nexus 7> iPad mini. I don't know what to say here, except for :eek: . Really?? What is better on the nexus compared to the iPad mini (except for the price). I mean, the screen is slightly sharper, but is noticalby smaller and has an awkward aspect ratio for it's size (mini blows it away for anything except, for watching movies).
Google pixel> macbook pro retina is the worst of all these comparisons. I sincerely hope you're joking here. You are saying Google pixel (which is more expensive than the macbook pro), with half the horsepower and a browser OS is better than the retina macbook pro (more powerfull, great fully functional OS, mac app store, CHEAPER!).:eek:
The glass and radio comparison is ridiculous considering Apple hasn't announced anything yet to compete with these two, and Android>iOS is your preference. I like iOS more.
The only advantage HTC one has over iPhone 5 is the bigger, slightly sharper screen and Android (if you prefer it over iOS). iPhone 5 is faster, more durable, better looking (in my eyes), smoother, and runs iOS (which I prefer to Android - not saying it's perfect). Not to say it has/ will have better software support.

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The iPhone 5 and HTC One both impressed in this particular test, with each handset managing to "retain a more natural color balance.

The next test was the resolution, and with the HTC One boasting the highest pixel density of the bunch, its on-paper rep was confirmed by PhoneArena‘s stress tests. At 468 ppi, it’s a cut above the rest,


Where does it say the iPhone 5 is slightly better than the HTC one?

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Yes I am also holding it off til WWDC.

It doesn't. It says they are equal as far as color accuracy and viewing angles are concerned. But if you look at those pictures taken at an angle, you can see the iPhone is producing whites slightly (really slightly) better. That's all.
 

adnbek

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Apple is being out innovated at every turn:
- HTC One > iPhone 5

In some respects, yes. In others, not so much. Screen size is the big plus on the One. I admit I find the One a very alluring device, but I like my iPhone and won't switch for many reasons.

- Windows Surface Pro > iPad

Two different categories.

- Google/Asus Nexus 7 > iPad mini

Ok, you're joking here right? I have both. The Mini is superior in every way, except display sharpness. App quality and selection, speed, build quality goes to the Mini.

- Google Pixel > Macbook

Ok, now I know you're trolling.

- Google Glass > iWatch

iWatch doesn't exist.

- Google Play Music All Access > iRadio

iRadio doesn't exist yet.

- Google Android > iOS

Depends on the user. Some value customizability and tons of settings, others like simplicity and speed.

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C0C0A

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In some respects, yes. In others, not so much. Screen size is the big plus on the One. I admit I find the One a very alluring device, but I like my iPhone and won't switch for many reasons.



Two different categories.



Ok, you're joking here right? I have both. The Mini is superior in every way, except display sharpness. App quality and selection, speed, build quality goes to the Mini.



Ok, now I know you're trolling.



iWatch doesn't exist.



iRadio doesn't exist yet.



Depends on the user. Some value customizability and tons of settings, others like simplicity and speed.
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Apple's design is great. What is not great is the internals, they are years behind. And then the fact that they run iOS limits the usability, unlike Android and Windows 8.

iWatch and iRadio will not be innovative, Google beat them to the punch. Apple would be playing catchup at this point.

The Chromebook Pixel is a cleaner design, has a touch screen, has similar hardware, a better PPI display, is lighter, comes with LTE, and is priced less than a retina Macbook. Although Chrome OS is in its early stages, Google is moving forward with it. There are too many areas in which the Pixel beats the Macbook in. And the Macbook has had the same basic design for ages, very last generation look and feel, almost like Apple has completely ignored their notebook customers.
 

TommyA6

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Apple's design is great. What is not great is the internals, they are years behind. And then the fact that they run iOS limits the usability, unlike Android and Windows 8.

iWatch and iRadio will not be innovative, Google beat them to the punch. Apple would be playing catchup at this point.

The Chromebook Pixel is a cleaner design, has a touch screen, has similar hardware, a better PPI display, is lighter, comes with LTE, and is priced less than a retina Macbook. Although Chrome OS is in its early stages, Google is moving forward with it. There are too many areas in which the Pixel beats the Macbook in. And the Macbook has had the same basic design for ages, very last generation look and feel, almost like Apple has completely ignored their notebook customers.[/QUOTE]


I really do not know what to say here. First of all, if you're comparing pixel to air, the pixel wifi model is 300$ more expensive, and if you take a look at the LTE model the difference is more than 500 bucks. If you comapre pixel to a retina macbook pro, you'll see the pixel costs as much as a retina macbook pro, while offering less (Touch screen laptop... PLEASE!? :confused:). Retina macbook pro is more powerfull, has a fully functional OS (not some freaking browser crap) and has a beautiful retina display etc. And if you pay 200$ more you can buy an upgraded retina macbook pro for 1700$ which trumps pixel even more in every possible way (8 gb of RAM, 3,2 ghz i5, 256 gb flash storage, compared to the 4 gb of RAM, 1,8 ghz i5 and 64 gb of flash storage of the pixel). As for design, you are free to like pixels design more, but first of all it is a ripoff of the macbook pro, and second of all it's a failed ripoff.
 

Kariya

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Absolutely. It's already too late, people just seem ignorant about using a less capable device. Although... Blackberry, really? :confused:

Even though we use the saying "there are no stupid questions," there are. Just the same "even though we have choices," there are bad ones. iPhone being one.

Apple is being out innovated at every turn:
- HTC One > iPhone 5
- Windows Surface Pro > iPad
- Google/Asus Nexus 7 > iPad mini
- Google Pixel > Macbook
- Google Glass > iWatch
- Google Play Music All Access > iRadio
- Google Android > iOS

It isn't just the end of iPhone, it's practically the end of Apple. If it weren't for iTunes, which is about to be overtaken by Google and Amazon, they would have absolutely no winning products.

http://betanews.com/2013/03/14/how-pathetic-apple-has-become/

You and the author of the article you linked to are equally clueless.
 
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