It's a shame Microsoft don't have their own "I'm a PC ads"

[ki2594]

I'm not an apple fanboy and i have notthing against microsoft but...


did you use Windows mobile when it was released or a year later for that matter. It SUCKED. Case and point.

 

[alphaod]

I'm not an apple fanboy and i have notthing against microsoft but...


did you use Windows mobile when it was released or a year later for that matter. It SUCKED. Case and point.

WM is good for some things, but bad in others; you should try S60.

 

[HiFiGuy528]

Check this out.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/532973/

 

[dsnort]

How is the Xbox 360 a screw up? It sold 20 MILLION units. Please explain. If anything, your post is a fail.

Actually, my son has an Xbox, no issues, so I don't know what everyone is on about.

BTW, what is so wrong with Vista anyway???? It works every bit as good as all my Windows XP based systems?.

That's the main problem I see with Vista, it works as well as XP, but not much better. The only reason I'm on Mac now is that after 15 years of Windows I was determined to find something better. I switched to Mac, and I'll never go back. ( Well, maybe, if MS get their act together with Windows 7. )

 

[hsleiman]

The whole Apple vs. Microsoft argument really comes down to one thing...

Apple TELLS you what you want in their products (case and point 3G iPhone)

Microsoft lets you do whatever with their products

I'm neither a fanboy of Apple or Microsoft. I don't buy based on what company I like better, only on what product suits me best.

 

[Excellerator]

The whole Apple vs. Microsoft argument really comes down to one thing...

Apple TELLS you what you want in their products (case and point 3G iPhone)

Microsoft lets you do whatever with their products

I'm neither a fanboy of Apple or Microsoft. I don't buy based on what company I like better, only on what product suits me best.

Well said, that pretty much sums up what I said in a nutshell.

 

[hsleiman]

That's the main problem I see with Vista, it works as well as XP, but not much better. The only reason I'm on Mac now is that after 15 years of Windows I was determined to find something better. I switched to Mac, and I'll never go back. ( Well, maybe, if MS get their act together with Windows 7. )

I don't see what the big deal is with Mac unless you're a professional photographer or something like that. My friend has a Mac and I have Vista and he doesn't do anything on his Mac that I can't just as easily do on Windows. To the average Joe Mac OSX = Vista. It's just personal preference.

(I'm so ready to get flamed for this post )

 

[clevin]

Apple TELLS you what you want in their products (case and point 3G iPhone)

Microsoft lets you do whatever with their products
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couldn't agree more.

some people living in a fish tank and apparently very happy.

 

[Excellerator]

My other Ipod rant is that you can't simply hook up an Ipod and copy files over as if it were a hard drive. Both my 6 year old RCA Lyra and my 1 year old 6GB Philips BOTH allow that. Apple makes you have to use Itunes.

 

[Excellerator]

I don't see what the big deal is with Mac unless you're a professional photographer or something like that. My friend has a Mac and I have Vista and he doesn't do anything on his Mac that I can't just as easily do on Windows. To the average Joe Mac OSX = Vista. It's just personal preference.

(I'm so ready to get flamed for this post )

Actually as a professional photographer, I don't even really see it here either. Adobe Photoshop is exactly the same on both PC and MAC. Watch PhotoshopUserTV and you will see.

In fact I just read that Adobe Photoshop CS4 will support 64bit on Windows but not until CS5 on the Mac because Apple changed their 64bit programming midway through the programming. So Adobe decided not the impliment it yet for the Mac. BUT this could be rumor too.

 

[Tallest Skil]

How is the Xbox 360 a screw up? It sold 20 MILLION units. Please explain. If anything, your post is a fail.

We don't care about the units. We care about the reported 60% failure rate in the form of the Red Ring of Death.

 

[dukebound85]

My other Ipod rant is that you can't simply hook up an Ipod and copy files over as if it were a hard drive. Both my 6 year old RCA Lyra and my 1 year old 6GB Philips BOTH allow that. Apple makes you have to use Itunes.

you can on every ipod except the iphone and touch

 

[ivtecDOu]

there has been no bigger screw up than vista and the xbox 360
mobile me and 2.0 bugs are very temporary, as for 3G problems, they seem to be very isolated

my vista and 360 work fine not one problem with either

 

[hsleiman]

We don't care about the units. We care about the reported 60% failure rate in the form of the Red Ring of Death.

Microsoft fixed that situation by replacing 360s for free and extending the warranty for RRODs to three years. They also started manufacturing 360s with different hardware to prevent that issue.

 

[Jeremy1026]

Microsoft vs Apple
Lets see here, I have had a Vista based laptop since September. I have never had to restore it.
I have had an Iphone 3G for two weeks that has had to be restored 3 times now.

Point 1 for Microsoft

Windows allows third party developers to do as they please.
Apple says - only if we allow it.

Point 1 for Microsoft

Internet Explorer (I am talking Windows mobile) loads Flash based websites
Safari doesn't

Point 1 for Microsoft

Microsoft can play Divx, Xvid, AVI, MP4, Quicktime
Apple only Quicktime

Point 1 for Microsoft

Windows mobile comes with pocket Word, Excel, Powerpoint
Apple - we can read only

Point 1 for Microsoft

So far its 5 points Microsoft, 0 for Apple.

#1, Restoring - You compared a laptop to a phone.

#2, 3rd Party Software - You compared Windows (in general) to the iPhone/iPod Touch. With OS X anyone can develop and distribute on it without any interference by Apple.

#3, Point for Windows.

#4, Apple's can play all of those formats.

#5, You are paying for pocket word, excel, powerpoint, give developers time and you will be paying for it for the iPhone as well. Also, my old Treo 650 had the office suite on it, and that was Palm, so that is not a windows exclusive.


I count your 5 points as 4 moot, and 1 valid.

 

[ivtecDOu]

Microsoft vs Apple
Lets see here, I have had a Vista based laptop since September. I have never had to restore it.
I have had an Iphone 3G for two weeks that has had to be restored 3 times now.

Point 1 for Microsoft

Windows allows third party developers to do as they please.
Apple says - only if we allow it.

Point 1 for Microsoft

Internet Explorer (I am talking Windows mobile) loads Flash based websites
Safari doesn't

Point 1 for Microsoft

Microsoft can play Divx, Xvid, AVI, MP4, Quicktime
Apple only Quicktime

Point 1 for Microsoft

Windows mobile comes with pocket Word, Excel, Powerpoint
Apple - we can read only

Point 1 for Microsoft

So far its 5 points Microsoft, 0 for Apple.

BTW, what is so wrong with Vista anyway???? It works every bit as good as all my Windows XP based systems?

Granted I love my Iphone, but it does have its limitations. The video codec thing is my biggest peeve. Its a video Ipod!!!! Allow the most common video codecs. I know there is one being created for jailbroken Iphones which brings up another point you SHOULDN'T have to jailbreak to do common things. Even the Iphone doesn't include themes - whats up with that????? Oh thats right, Apple products are always boring looking. Itunes, Quicktime, Safari. If I could I would bypass Itunes and use Rhapsody anyday.

Sorry to rant, but I hate these people that thing Apple is the best thing out there. It still doesn't come close to being the market leader.

theres no point arguing with fanbois

 

[kdarling]

... as for 3G problems, they seem to be very isolated

Ever visit Apple's iPhone support forums?

 

[Excellerator]

These kind of threads always make me think back 25 years or so when I used to run a BBS. Except back then it was Apple II vs Commodore 64.

 

[JWages]

Ever visit Apple's iPhone support forums?

Its a support forum, of course people are going to go there with problems.


This whole thread is pointless, tbh. Do we really need a mac vs pc debate? its all personal preference.

 

[dsnort]

I don't see what the big deal is with Mac unless you're a professional photographer or something like that. My friend has a Mac and I have Vista and he doesn't do anything on his Mac that I can't just as easily do on Windows. To the average Joe Mac OSX = Vista. It's just personal preference.

(I'm so ready to get flamed for this post )

To each their own. IMO, windows is generally cludgy and clutzy to deal with. Simple tasks are much more difficult and complicated than they need to be. Maybe that doesn't bother you, but I find Windows an unpleasant experience at best. And that's not even touching on the stability issues Windows has.

some people living in a fish tank and apparently very happy.

Well, my "fish tank" hasn't crashed ever, finds the WiFi every time, hooks up to any printer I find,(without downloading drivers), in fact hooks up to anything I've ever attached it to, and runs any software I need. So yeah, I'm much happier in the "fish tank" than I was running along with the rest of the lemmings.

 

[Cynicalone]

Well, my "fish tank" hasn't crashed ever, finds the WiFi every time, hooks up to any printer I find,(without downloading drivers), in fact hooks up to anything I've ever attached it to, and runs any software I need. So yeah, I'm much happier in the "fish tank" than I was running along with the rest of the lemmings.

Well said.

These threads are always fun your never going to change someone's opinion like this but it kinda funny to watch the train wreck.

 

[dukebound85]

To each their own. IMO, windows is generally cludgy and clutzy to deal with. Simple tasks are much more difficult and complicated than they need to be. Maybe that doesn't bother you, but I find Windows an unpleasant experience at best. And that's not even touching on the stability issues Windows has.



Well, my "fish tank" hasn't crashed ever, finds the WiFi every time, hooks up to any printer I find,(without downloading drivers), in fact hooks up to anything I've ever attached it to, and runs any software I need. So yeah, I'm much happier in the "fish tank" than I was running along with the rest of the lemmings.

i cant say the same for me

 

[hsleiman]

To each their own. IMO, windows is generally cludgy and clutzy to deal with. Simple tasks are much more difficult and complicated than they need to be. Maybe that doesn't bother you, but I find Windows an unpleasant experience at best. And that's not even touching on the stability issues Windows has.



Well, my "fish tank" hasn't crashed ever, finds the WiFi every time, hooks up to any printer I find,(without downloading drivers), in fact hooks up to anything I've ever attached it to, and runs any software I need. So yeah, I'm much happier in the "fish tank" than I was running along with the rest of the lemmings.

What simple task is much more difficult and complicated to do on Vista than it is on Mac OSX?

I didn't have to DL a single driver with my update to Vista. There was a sound driver that wasn't compatible from XP but the Vista install disc had a driver for my sound card anyways. My friend routinely has issues finding our college's wireless network while my pc is always good to go. I'm not saying Macs suck or anything, I think they're just fine. But trashing Vista just cuz you like Mac OSX is pretty crazy.

 

[dsnort]

i cant say the same for me

Yeah, I saw where you posted that you ran engineering software. There is some available for Mac, but the industry standard is, well, I can't think of the name of it at the moment. But I know it's Windows only.

 

[ivtecDOu]

What simple task is much more difficult and complicated to do on Vista than it is on Mac OSX?

I didn't have to DL a single driver with my update to Vista. There was a sound driver that wasn't compatible from XP but the Vista install disc had a driver for my sound card anyways. My friend routinely has issues finding our college's wireless network while my pc is always good to go. I'm not saying Macs suck or anything, I think they're just fine. But trashing Vista just cuz you like Mac OSX is pretty crazy.

true man i dont get it damn fanbois, if its not apple it sucks